Which addresses the issue of gainful employment for non-capitalists not at all. There is no shortage of goods in this country, just a shortage of income allowing for people to pay for them.
Which addresses the issue of gainful employment for non-capitalists not at all. There is no shortage of goods in this country, just a shortage of income allowing for people to pay for them.It's not a zero sum game. Automation lowers cost of entry and allows a lot more and/or bigger opportunities to be pursued.
That is all fine and good, but you also dealing with the romanticism that goes with the idea of the American dream meritocracy and the sense of purpose that goes with having a job. The Reagan era saw the pendulum swing to corporations, the Clinton era brought in outsourcing and the Obama era saw rapid digital disruption. The greed of stock returns and launching the next unicorn IPO overruled any cautions.Tech is not hurting the heartland, the heartland is hurting itself. Techies consistently vote to increase their own taxes to help others left behind in the modern world. We have great health insurance and big retirement savings, yet we vote for more universal health care and to protect social security.
Heartland is the one voting to gut the safety net that they will need in the age of automation, and they are the ones voting for politicians that gut antitrust laws and allow for monopolies to emerge. They also vote to block help for people like themselves to have health insurance through medicaid if they fall on hard times. And then when we tell them that, they call us arrogant and threaten to hurt themselves even more. At some point you just gotta tell them to knock themselves out.
Trump was more in tune to the underlying problems. He unfortunately has no solutions to them, which is why he is now doubling down on identity politics.
As most techies, I understand this and, I vote for politicians who support a robust safety net and/or education programs for all Americans, including those in the heartland, and am willing to pay higher taxes to that end. But they insist on voting Republican not having any of that and for me to keep more money at their expense, and I respect their wishes.That is all fine and good, but you also dealing with the romanticism that goes with the idea of the American dream meritocracy and the sense of purpose that goes with having a job. The Reagan era saw the pendulum swing to corporations, the Clinton era brought in outsourcing and the Obama era saw rapid digital disruption. The greed of stock returns and launching the next unicorn IPO overruled any cautions.
If you could, wouldn’t you go back and place environmental checks on the growth of the industrial age? The digital age may not create environmental waste, but it certainly has pollution and victims.
The only problem the democrats had in the heartland is that they didn't lie enough to get people to vote for them
Something Trump was more than happy to do in 2016.
A) why do you still use checks? (rest of the modern world people haven't seen one in decades)Not *really* related to this thread, but sort of on the automation side of it.
3 weeks ago I walked into a Chase branch to cash a check. I go to the cashier and she says "You can also use our automated teller to deposit checks". I nod and smile and say thank you and tell her I prefer to work with another human. It struck me as odd and kind of eerie that someone was basically trying to solicit the loss of their job.
Fast forward to this week and I walk into a different Chase branch to cash another check. Look at where the tellers used to be. There's no tellers. Just a wall. And an "automated" teller where real humans used to be. There was one person staffing the bank as basically a smiling face and directing you to deposit checks into the machine.
It was a very surreal feeling. I knew one of the tellers at that second branch. She would work the starbucks near my office in the morning and then go there in the afternoons.
That's just a small personal glimpse of automation and cashing out humans for a computer. I've yet to see a candidate really give a good path forward against that.
A) why do you still use checks? (rest of the modern world people haven't seen one in decades)
B) why would you go to a bank to cash one?! Use your phone. I haven't set foot in a bank in at least 5 years, probably more
When I was putting down a deposit for my contractor's work in 2017, he wanted a check. I pay my lawn service with a check. The local gutter/roofing guy that just repaired the ice damage on my house got paid with a check. My renters pay me with checks.A) why do you still use checks? (rest of the modern world people haven't seen one in decades)
B) why would you go to a bank to cash one?! Use your phone. I haven't set foot in a bank in at least 5 years, probably more
Because that's what refunds/rebates/reimbursements come in? I didn't ask for that. And keyword is *cashing*. My babysitter doesn't have a credit card slot.
This all seems really foreign to me. Any check I get from any source gets inputted via my bank's phone app, which has worked like a champ since 2010? or so. Anyone I ever have to pay with an actual check, I just mail out from my bank's webpage. I don't even own an actual book of checks, nor would I know how to source one from my bank without looking it up.When I was putting down a deposit for my contractor's work in 2017, he wanted a check. I pay my lawn service with a check. The local gutter/roofing guy that just repaired the ice damage on my house got paid with a check. My renters pay me with checks.
Because that's what refunds/rebates/reimbursements come in? I didn't ask for that. And keyword is *cashing*. My babysitter doesn't have a credit card slot.
I ordered my checks from Walmart back in 2013, it was $11 shipped (for some nerdy Star Trek checks), I probably still have enough to last me another six years.This all seems really foreign to me. Any check I get from any source gets inputted via my bank's phone app, which has worked like a champ since 2010? or so. Anyone I ever have to pay with an actual check, I just mail out from my bank's webpage. I don't even own an actual book of checks, nor would I know how to source one from my bank without looking it up.
Add to that, there's like a dozen dead-simple ways to transfer funds between two people securely without ever interfacing with checks.
Pretty much this. I paid the last contractor with credit card. And my babysitter uses venmo. Only use is sending payment to the state for things (though most accept online pay), I've had to mail a check. But still never have to go INTO a bank.This all seems really foreign to me. Any check I get from any source gets inputted via my bank's phone app, which has worked like a champ since 2010? or so. Anyone I ever have to pay with an actual check, I just mail out from my bank's webpage. I don't even own an actual book of checks, nor would I know how to source one from my bank without looking it up.
Add to that, there's like a dozen dead-simple ways to transfer funds between two people securely without ever interfacing with checks.
Trump was more in tune to the underlying problems. He unfortunately has no solutions to them, which is why he is now doubling down on identity politics.
A) why do you still use checks? (rest of the modern world people haven't seen one in decades)
B) why would you go to a bank to cash one?! Use your phone. I haven't set foot in a bank in at least 5 years, probably more
Haha, that sucks. At least you should have a bank app to deposit that check..My phone provider overcharged me and had to repay me. My original payment of course went to them electronically and instantaneously, but take three guesses how they insisted they had to send me the refund...