Obama, plebe? Are you sure?
If you can't tell the difference between Trumpists marching as white supremacists in Savannah and progressives, especially older ones, who still have some bias in them I dunno what to tell you or the national review.
If Mitch McConnell had said the same things as The Mrs or her sham husband or Harry Reid, would you still be saying “bias of older people”?
Now I don’t give a flying fuck about any of the above people but it seems the modern, enlightened, free from the tyranny of tradition liberals are still primitive and tribal.
racism on the left is going home to your husband and talking smack on your mexican neighbor for playing his music too loud.
racism on the right is going home and lynching your black neighbor and then voting for closed borders because you're afraid some mexican is going to rob you at night.
Both, and that is the whole point. While the poor white person might be more overtly racist, a poor white person cannot exert much socioeconomic influence.Put it this way, while a richer elitist liberal may not live in a neighborhood where a lot of blacks can afford to live, which is a product of institutional racism mostly, they will march right next to and beside minorities in earnest for their rights whereas while a poor white guy may live among minorities, though totally not by choice, and they will stay indoors fuming when the minorities march for their rights. Who is the actual racist?
Conservatives view of racism
Won’t hire blacks says:
“We don’t hire n*****” - Racist
Won’t hire blacks says:
“I’m sorry we’re looking for a better fit with our team here.”
“You wouldn’t fit in with the culture “
“This job probably isn’t urban enough for you”
“You are too ‘qualified’ for what we are looking for”
- Not Racist
Elitist liberal scum says
“If you won’t hire blacks you are racist”
Conservative
“Wah you liberals are the real racists”.
/thread.
From the article I posted:Conservatives view of racism
Won’t hire blacks says:
“We don’t hire n*****” - Racist
Won’t hire blacks says:
“I’m sorry we’re looking for a better fit with our team here.”
“You wouldn’t fit in with the culture “
“This job probably isn’t urban enough for you”
“You are too ‘qualified’ for what we are looking for”
- Not Racist
Elitist liberal scum says
“If you won’t hire blacks you are racist”
Conservative
“Wah you liberals are the real racists”.
/thread.
From the article I posted:
“Race, gender, religion and sexual orientation are such difficult discussions to have, and many of us don’t get it right, but my problem with some white liberals aren’t that they sometimes get it wrong, it’s their profound lack of self-awareness coupled with the smugness and self-righteousness that they use to lecture to others.”
/thread
Did ya notice the current POTUS is?I’d disagree with that. The people on the right I talk to aren’t afraid of calling a racist white person a racist. They also aren’t afraid of calling a racist black persons one. Granted some don’t really give a shit that they are racist, but they aren’t afraid to call a spade a spade.
Did ya notice the current POTUS is?
My stance, I'm not afraid of calling a racist, racist
There are multiple reasons I have little patience with the elite liberals' supposed fight against racism. To be honest I probably have more time for the everyday racist than the sophisticated, highly educated, condescending, cynical, rich white liberal. The former at least has a measure of honesty about him. Not talking about you guys - this is just a forum and I don't know anybody. I am talking of my own life experiences and fortunately or unfortunately, I have known a wide variety of people of various ethnic and socioeconomic backgrounds. And among all these, the rich white man or woman (esp the liberal kind), I have tended to find the most unbearable.
So you drive around with Obama for President bumper sticker and you say this is about time we had a black man as President, but you treat that poor Nepali guy as dirt. And yet this is not how you are with the "important" people of your social circle. The recent hullabaloo in New York City among the enlightened and open minded liberals regarding the school changes - something like that would surprise you only if you are already not aware of this certain kind of liberal. I remember Haybusa here also mentioning this kind from his own experiences.
On the political level, I do not believe the left cares about the non-white people. It has been fully involved and complicit in the murder and oppression of hundreds of thousands of brown people all over the world. Something that continues to this day. But that is another topic entirely and I do not want to go there into it here...or the domestic policies which supposedly benefit non-white people as pushed by the left - that too is another topic.
This is about the actual racism. This notion that just because someone is a liberal politically that they are more open minded about race than a conservative, I find this to be utterly absurd. I have personally known the exact opposite so many times. Sure there are racist conservatives and not racist liberals. But this presumption, or notion that is pushed by the established media and what many people have come to believe - I think it is nonsense. As always, the world is not what is portrayed in the media, which have their own ax to grind - and more importantly, their own profits to consider.
Following are some examples of well known figures and politicians, but they just mirror the wider group. And the point I wish to make is most certainly not confined to humans in physical form (only) like The Mrs. Who Lost (Again) and their ilk.
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And here is Bill Clinton, describing Obama in 2010: “A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.”
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Remember in 2008, in one of her earlier incarnations, a once national-populist Hillary Clinton was running against Obama by galvanizing the so-called white working classes. Often, she was not shy about saying so: “I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on,” Clinton bragged. As evidence, she cited an Associated Press story that found, in her words, “how Senator Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”
“There’s a pattern emerging here,” she concluded.
There is.
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Joe Biden’s putdown of Barack Obama in 2008 apparently was xeroxed by liberal icon and former senator Harry Reid, who likewise dismissed Obama as a veritable racial chameleon, a “light-skinned African with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”
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Also, when one by act and deed demonstrates more comfortability with one’s own tribe, that de facto apartheid can be hard to turn on and off. In contrast, a white truck driver who lives with Mexican Americans, or a Mexican-American carpenter who lives in a working-class neighborhood of whites, realizes there are consequences to racialist slurs. And they are not confined to Twitter virtue-signaling or Internet mobbing but often are muscular and can be dangerous.
I have found race, class, and gender tensions far greater at Stanford University than in San Joaquin Valley rural communities, where difference is incidental and not so essential to one’s person. Perhaps the reason is that people share a lower middle-class existence, or that muscular work tends to outweigh rhetoric and abstraction. When one works and lives alongside someone of a different appearance, there is no need or time or affluence to create a façade of identity politics.
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I bet your parents would also throw a fit if anyone tried to put low income housing in THEIR town, which has a more profound impact on racial inequity than some alt-right douchebag that suddenly feels enabled by social media and a flash in the pan soon to be removed racist President.Well you know what my parents used to say?
They said, “Paratus, even if the teacher is mean and sucks you still have to learn the material and get good grades. That’s your responsibility.”
So while some conservatives may find us to be smug and self-righteous that doesn’t absolve them of their responsibility to not be a racist douchebag.
Nice assumption only minorities use low income housing. As long as person next door keeps a clean house and is a good neighbor I could care less their income.I bet your parents would also throw a fit if anyone tried to put low income housing in THEIR town, which has a more profound impact on racial inequity than some alt-right douchebag that suddenly feels enabled by social media and a flash in the pan soon to be removed racist President.
I bet your parents would also throw a fit if anyone tried to put low income housing in THEIR town, which has a more profound impact on racial inequity than some alt-right douchebag that suddenly feels enabled by social media and a flash in the pan soon to be removed racist President.
That's racism, calling the POTUS racist, just because he's white.
Trump is racist as fuck, he practiced racism in his business, there is no doubt about Trump. Calling POTUS a racist is solely due to him being a racist NOT his skin color.
Opposition to low income housing is a rich person thing, not a liberal/conservative thing.
Opposition to equal employment opportunity and such is very much a conservative thing. Just look at the threads here on evidence of widespread racial discrimination in hiring.
On how racism in the South compares to racism in the North
I don't know where the phrase comes from — it's just one of those things you hear and it feels like a truism to me: That in the North they don't care how high you get as long as you don't get too close; in the South they don't care about how close you get as long as you don't get too high. The idea being that [in the North] you ... could be a black doctor; but in the South they don't want you to be a doctor, but you can live across the street.
I really do feel like there is a way in which there's a sense of honesty in the South — whether they like you or they don't like you — that is very clear, that I somehow appreciate, that in the North sometimes — and this is true of the West Coast too — you're like, "I don't know if you like me or not. You're being polite, but it doesn't feel that nice."
So I do feel like the one thing I've learned is that the South — because of its history of racism, the history of slavery coming from the South — it's a much better place than most Americans want to give it credit for.
Nice duhflection. Then why do white collar suburban neighborhoods fight low income housing? Why is the state governor race in CA suddenly shifting to a debate over school vouchers? Why is Massachusetts struggling to meet 40B low income housing targets they set decades ago. Why are the towns around where Hillary lived in NY fighting so hard to prevent low income housing? Why is there now a lively discussion around the gentrification of historical minority neighborhoods in Los Angeles, Chicago, Oakland and San Francisco?Nice assumption only minorities use low income housing. As long as person next door keeps a clean house and is a good neighbor I could care less their income.
A more apt example, drill baby drill but not off the coast of Florida.
I bet your parents would also throw a fit if anyone tried to put low income housing in THEIR town, which has a more profound impact on racial inequity than some alt-right douchebag that suddenly feels enabled by social media and a flash in the pan soon to be removed racist President.