The elite liberals and racism

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Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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How do you define an 'elite liberal'?
Hypocritical NIMBYist condescending douchebags who tend to live in places like Brooklyn, Cambridge and San Francisco, and who have both the means and power to solve the underyling socioeconomic root causes of racism, but instead flail around on message boards complaining about red states...present company excluded of course
 

Noah Abrams

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Feb 15, 2018
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Hey guys, our friend Noah here has his finger on the pulse of the ‘low level liberal circles’. What are these circles and how did you come to get such insider knowledge of them?

Lol, your bullshit is so utterly transparent.

I bow down to your superiority. I hope that makes you happy.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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The elite liberal throws a hissy fit if his kids school allow policies that put in minority kids there. The elite liberal doesn't know any minorities personally and neither does he want to. A lower middle class guy would generally have no problems sharing meals with minorities. Who is the actual racist?
You are making claims not in evidence. Care to give that evidence? Sidwell Friends didn't have a problem accepting Sasha and Malia.

I'm sure there are plenty of lower middle class people who wouldn't eat with minorities. None of my friends fit that description.

Methinks this entire thread mirrors the voter fraud discussion. A few instances lay claim to a widespread pandemic. This smells of a diversion of real racism.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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They also aren’t afraid of calling a racist black persons one. . . . but they aren’t afraid to call a spade a spade.

Just not to their face, amIrite?

They’ll call a racist a racist...?

Educate yourself, because your ignorance is showing, and it is NO excuse:

However, that's not an excuse to keep from learning and thinking about what the things we say really mean, and the cultural baggage attached to them. Here are five common phrases used in Western culture that have some seriously messed-up, racist backgrounds.

1. "Call A Spade A Spade"

Until recently, I genuinely thought this phrase only meant "call it like it is." I grew up hearing it, and even though I've never used it that often (mainly because I just don't think it's that commonplace among millennials), I didn't think there was anything problematic about the term. However, after doing some research, I'm definitely not using it again.

"Call a spade a spade" has been in use for nearly half a millennium (and variations on it date at least as far back as A.D. 120). But it didn't start to take on the racist connotation it has now until the early 20th century. Evidently, in the 1920s, "spade" started being used as a slang term, and then a derogatory slur, for a black person. This racist shift in the phrase's meaning also lead to the equally offensive phrase "black as the ace of spades."
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Hypocritical NIMBYist condescending douchebags who tend to live in places like Brooklyn, Cambridge and San Francisco, and who have both the means and power to solve the underyling socioeconomic root causes of racism, but instead flail around on message boards complaining about red states...present company excluded of course

Haha, nice. I am interested to hear his definition though as he’s stated before he’s of modest means. Apparently being an ‘elite liberal’ makes it so you can’t understand the regular people but I guess it doesn’t work both ways.

Well really I was just going to call him out on his bullshit.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I wonder if I'm an elite liberal. Am I more racist than a conservative? I am of a modest income but I sure do take the political positions of the elitist liberals...I think?

I purposely bought a condo, for good money, in a neighborhood that is mostly minority. Few African Americans, but mostly hispanics, muslims, asians of various descents. Whites are here but certainly the minority. And I feel I have subconscious racist thoughts. Man I am confuzzled.

Noah please label me.
 

Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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.........

Here is something that is getting murmured in liberal circles too - albeit at a low level from where they won't allow it to go up.

Damn how did you find out that was a super double secret plan of the elite elites run by the Hollywood elites and the elitist elites who are the most elites elitis among the very elite. Hogwash.
 

Noah Abrams

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Feb 15, 2018
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I wonder if I'm an elite liberal. Am I more racist than a conservative? I am of a modest income but I sure do take the political positions of the elitist liberals...I think?

I purposely bought a condo, for good money, in a neighborhood that is mostly minority. Few African Americans, but mostly hispanics, muslims, asians of various descents. Whites are here but certainly the minority. And I feel I have subconscious racist thoughts. Man I am confuzzled.

Noah please label me.

It isn't about you. You are not the elite. You are not the establishment. But you do serve a useful purpose by voting for them
 

Snarf Snarf

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Feb 19, 2015
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Erase the liberal part and replace with any rich person of any color or political affiliation.

From a brown liberal person, once you erase the racial lines people will still segregate on socioeconomic status.

My father is a great example, the higher he's climbed the social ladder after becoming a US Citizen the more disdain he has for those below him, regardless of color. He doesn't want any dirty poor people moving into his area because it lowers the property value of his home. That's not racist that's just the reality of economic success on most people, regardless of ethnic background.

Things I can tell you, I have never had an "elite liberal" tell me that I speak very good English for a Martinez, or that "my family has done very well for immigrants". I'll give you guys a guess at what political affiliations those kinds of comments come from. But you know, call a spade a spade am I right?
 

Noah Abrams

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Damn how did you find out that was a super double secret plan of the elite elites run by the Hollywood elites and the elitist elites who are the most elites elitis among the very elite. Hogwash.

There are local radio stations. There are human beings that you may know who are linked to progressive causes. And so on. Why not have something to say about the actual substance? That the Dem party is a cabal run by powerful interests who use minorities as fodder. That its power mechanisms are not much different from the R party.

As usual as is the case with internet mobs, lots of divergences, lots of childish personal attacks and name callings. (Sighs)....
 

Noah Abrams

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Erase the liberal part and replace with any rich person of any color or political affiliation.

From a brown liberal person, once you erase the racial lines people will still segregate on socioeconomic status.

My father is a great example, the higher he's climbed the social ladder after becoming a US Citizen the more disdain he has for those below him, regardless of color. He doesn't want any dirty poor people moving into his area because it lowers the property value of his home. That's not racist that's just the reality of economic success on most people, regardless of ethnic background.

I do think there is some truth in what you say. However it isn't always that simple. And it is the liberals who lecture the whole country about openness, racial diversity and so on. While their own conduct belies what they profess to belief. Their "beliefs" are often self delusions, attempts to feel better about themselves. That is what I am trying to get at.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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Hey guys, our friend Noah here has his finger on the pulse of the ‘low level liberal circles’. What are these circles and how did you come to get such insider knowledge of them?

Lol, your bullshit is so utterly transparent.
Don’t you remember, he used to be one of those liberals.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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There are local radio stations. There are human beings that you may know who are linked to progressive causes. And so on. Why not have something to say about the actual substance? That the Dem party is a cabal run by powerful interests who use minorities as fodder. That its power mechanisms are not much different from the R party.

As usual as is the case with internet mobs, lots of divergences, lots of childish personal attacks and name callings. (Sighs)....
The truth is, in my opinion, so much worse than you imagine. In the world I see humanity is asleep concerned with what is useless, filled with self hate and an unconscious drive for self extinction. We are the disasters we fear. And there isn't the slightest hope that anybody who is asleep will ever awaken because they don't want to face the pain that is the truth, don't know they do, and don't want to know they don't want to know. I ask myself, then, what is the point of your lament? Why do you want to kick over a rock under which bugs crawl when the whole universe of humanity is rotting from with. Is it your aim to cheer me up by narrowing the issue so drastically? What do you feel? What feeling lies behind what thinking started this thread?
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Careful, don't spill any of that water you're so busy carrying to and fro.

We should admire the amount work compuwiz1 puts in every day carrying that water. Pretty impressive work ethic for an old guy. If only he could put that time into something more socially redeeming.
 

Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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This thread is going nowhere so I give you more Nazis having fun.



Those boys sure know how to party.
 
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Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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I’d disagree with that. The people on the right I talk to aren’t afraid of calling a racist white person a racist. They also aren’t afraid of calling a racist black persons one. Granted some don’t really give a shit that they are racist, but they aren’t afraid to call a spade a spade.

Wow. Just wow. Denies being racist, excuses the racism of his "side." accuses the victims of racism of being racist (tu quo que) , then uses a time honored racist term to describe the victims of his racism.
(It's been a racist term for nearly 100 years now https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/09/19/224183763/is-it-racist-to-call-a-spade-a-spade )

Racists truly are delusional.

/thread. This thread jumped the shark from the get-go and is just one giant intellectual masturbitory example of delusional tu quo que denialism.
 

Noah Abrams

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Feb 15, 2018
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The truth is, in my opinion, so much worse than you imagine. In the world I see humanity is asleep concerned with what is useless, filled with self hate and an unconscious drive for self extinction. We are the disasters we fear. And there isn't the slightest hope that anybody who is asleep will ever awaken because they don't want to face the pain that is the truth, don't know they do, and don't want to know they don't want to know. I ask myself, then, what is the point of your lament? Why do you want to kick over a rock under which bugs crawl when the whole universe of humanity is rotting from with. Is it your aim to cheer me up by narrowing the issue so drastically? What do you feel? What feeling lies behind what thinking started this thread?

All good questions. I am sure at the root of it is the ego / mind's need to feel better about itself. That deep insecurity that lies at the root of all of us. What is the point of this lament? Again, good question for which I do not have a fully honest answer. I ask then, what is the point of *anything* in the world? At least all the things we see and hear all around us - which is almost always ego in action.

The cesspool that gets created here on this forum again and again....the mutual backslapping...what is the *actual* point of it, realistically speaking? I doubt if it is anything other than the ego.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Yup, you are told you have no "compassion for the poor", you are "racist", and so on. Never mind the fact that the people suggesting changes may not be anywhere close to rich themselves - and that is why they have greater exposure to how things actually are, and not in some white paper of a think tank.

It is of course all a matter of maintaining status quo by those deeply entrenched in the system, financially, power wise and so son. As I keep saying, the Dems are as toxic to this country as the Rs. Because they are both morally corrupt, being so much in bed with the system.

The two party system is totally fucked. We are stuck with two corrupt choices for sure.

It sounds cool to say one side just as toxic as the other, I mean it makes you this awesome I am in the middle and I can see everything clearly now kind of person - but it just ain't true. i have gone up and down a list in my head of many many issues and I find the Dems on the right side of those issues way more often than not compared to the Republicans. I find the Republicans bought and sold on more issues than the Dems because they are more in bed with corporate interests and the such.
 
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