The End of Eminem.

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QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: exilera
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: Last Rezort
I guess im biased being a musician.
Rapper =/ Musician. Sorry dude.

You're a retard.... Just because you don't like a style of music doesnt mean it's not music.

And that goes for everyone else who hates rap... get over it... you don't have to like every style of music... stop pissing on other people who do like it.

I for one grew up with rap music, and I like it... I happen to think Eminem is a damn good rapper, I didnt like his latest album... but I certainly don't want to see him dissapear because I'm always interested to see what he comes out with, it's usually fresh and interesting. Which is far more than I can say about the majority of modern music.

So stop your bitchin.... AKA STFU

-Max

Rapping is not music, it's noise. Billy Joel makes music, 'Eminem' and other 'rappers' make useless crap. Where's the talent involved in talking into a mic to a beat made by someone else? There's no talent there. Why anyone would waste their time listening to that garbage is beyond me.


Let me explain, MOST rap isn't a using a beat made by somebody else. I take it you're not a producer, and that you know very little *if anything* about the craft behind "making music" Billy Joel plays piano, which is simply pressing keys that produce different sounds. He combinds different combinations and creates a melody. Aside from actually using somebody elses beat, a hip-hop producer does the same thing. Which is arrange different notes to create a melody. I play Piano a little, and I sample a little. I can honestly say it's just as hard to string together a melody with samples as to bang them out on a piano. As for rap being garbage, it's hands down the most popular music form in the world (ever)

what other form of music dictates and influences things people who HATE it do? One good example, alot of trucks come with 20 inch rims from the dealership now, that's because of hip-hop. And I see people who would say the same thing you did, with bitg rims on their trucks. Weather you love or hate hip-hop, it's not going anywhere, if anything it's going to get bigger.

To look at it as "nothing but stolen beats" is way narrow minded.
 

fbrdphreak

Lifer
Apr 17, 2004
17,555
1
0
I enjoyed his music for a little while, still do sometimes. Good of him to end it before he drags it out TOO long
 

KoolDrew

Lifer
Jun 30, 2004
10,226
7
81
Originally posted by: SouthPaW1227
I don't like a lot of his rage & violence, but he's a great artist. He's the only rapper that can tell a story not thrashed with sex and whores, not to mention the only one I can understand throughtout the song.

I agree that he is still a talented artist, but there is just too much violence in his music. Encore was also just pure garbage.
 
Sep 29, 2004
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I refuse to read more than the OP. But it is probably amazing if one were to count how many people spent time bashing Eminem in this therad.
 

BooGiMaN

Diamond Member
Jul 5, 2001
7,955
0
0
rappers whether they have a message in their songs or not are out to make money and become famous anyone who thinks different is a fool


both extremes on here suck, those that hate rap and those elitists that think naming a few underground rappers are in the know.....


unless you grew up in the ghetto dont try to tell me what message or deep meanings are in rap music
 

Doboji

Diamond Member
May 18, 2001
7,912
0
76
Originally posted by: exilera
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: Last Rezort
I guess im biased being a musician.
Rapper =/ Musician. Sorry dude.

You're a retard.... Just because you don't like a style of music doesnt mean it's not music.

And that goes for everyone else who hates rap... get over it... you don't have to like every style of music... stop pissing on other people who do like it.

I for one grew up with rap music, and I like it... I happen to think Eminem is a damn good rapper, I didnt like his latest album... but I certainly don't want to see him dissapear because I'm always interested to see what he comes out with, it's usually fresh and interesting. Which is far more than I can say about the majority of modern music.

So stop your bitchin.... AKA STFU

-Max

Rapping is not music, it's noise. Billy Joel makes music, 'Eminem' and other 'rappers' make useless crap. Where's the talent involved in talking into a mic to a beat made by someone else? There's no talent there. Why anyone would waste their time listening to that garbage is beyond me.



Tell you what... prove it.... record a rap... and post it here... then we can see if Eminem is talented ot not.

 

Koenigsegg

Banned
Jun 29, 2005
2,267
1
0
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: exilera
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: Last Rezort
I guess im biased being a musician.
Rapper =/ Musician. Sorry dude.

You're a retard.... Just because you don't like a style of music doesnt mean it's not music.

And that goes for everyone else who hates rap... get over it... you don't have to like every style of music... stop pissing on other people who do like it.

I for one grew up with rap music, and I like it... I happen to think Eminem is a damn good rapper, I didnt like his latest album... but I certainly don't want to see him dissapear because I'm always interested to see what he comes out with, it's usually fresh and interesting. Which is far more than I can say about the majority of modern music.

So stop your bitchin.... AKA STFU

-Max

Rapping is not music, it's noise. Billy Joel makes music, 'Eminem' and other 'rappers' make useless crap. Where's the talent involved in talking into a mic to a beat made by someone else? There's no talent there. Why anyone would waste their time listening to that garbage is beyond me.


Let me explain, MOST rap isn't a using a beat made by somebody else. I take it you're not a producer, and that you know very little *if anything* about the craft behind "making music" Billy Joel plays piano, which is simply pressing keys that produce different sounds. He combinds different combinations and creates a melody. Aside from actually using somebody elses beat, a hip-hop producer does the same thing. Which is arrange different notes to create a melody. I play Piano a little, and I sample a little. I can honestly say it's just as hard to string together a melody with samples as to bang them out on a piano. As for rap being garbage, it's hands down the most popular music form in the world (ever)

what other form of music dictates and influences things people who HATE it do? One good example, alot of trucks come with 20 inch rims from the dealership now, that's because of hip-hop. And I see people who would say the same thing you did, with bitg rims on their trucks. Weather you love or hate hip-hop, it's not going anywhere, if anything it's going to get bigger.

To look at it as "nothing but stolen beats" is way narrow minded.

And the world is a better place for it.
 

Leper Messiah

Banned
Dec 13, 2004
7,973
8
0
He was/is one of the few rappers I actually bought CDs from. Sure his stuff can get a little violent, but, hey, its a violent world out there. At least his ryhmes were orginal.

I like the beastie boys too. Thats about it for rap though...
 

Megatomic

Lifer
Nov 9, 2000
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6
81
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
I like the beastie boys too. Thats about it for rap though...
The Beastie Boys and the Gorillaz are about it for me. Well, my guilty pleasure is Baby Got Back, that rap kicked ass.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Last Rezort

EDIT:
Though you are right. I guess im biased being a musician.

I thought you just worked a console? You seem to have a lot of free time for a musician though.
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
11,757
0
71
Originally posted by: SouthPaW1227
I don't like a lot of his rage & violence, but he's a great artist. He's the only rapper that can tell a story not thrashed with sex and whores, not to mention the only one I can understand throughtout the song.

exactly
 

juice22

Member
Apr 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: SouthPaW1227
I don't like a lot of his rage & violence, but he's a great artist. He's the only rapper that can tell a story not thrashed with sex and whores, not to mention the only one I can understand throughtout the song.


ever listen to slick rick "adventures of"?
 

ohtwell

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
14,516
9
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I actually like Eminem. Though his lyrics are often contreversial I find them to be worth listening to. He either makes me laugh, wonder if he actually just said something, or really think about his meaning.


: ) Amanda
 

Leper Messiah

Banned
Dec 13, 2004
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8
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Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
I like the beastie boys too. Thats about it for rap though...
The Beastie Boys and the Gorillaz are about it for me. Well, my guilty pleasure is Baby Got Back, that rap kicked ass.

And the beastie boys aren't really rap...esp. nowadays.

"No.....Sleeep....'till Brooklyn!"
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
83,769
19
81
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
I like the beastie boys too. Thats about it for rap though...
The Beastie Boys and the Gorillaz are about it for me. Well, my guilty pleasure is Baby Got Back, that rap kicked ass.

And the beastie boys aren't really rap...esp. nowadays.

"No.....Sleeep....'till Brooklyn!"

it's still rap, whether or not popular.
 

Leper Messiah

Banned
Dec 13, 2004
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8
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
I like the beastie boys too. Thats about it for rap though...
The Beastie Boys and the Gorillaz are about it for me. Well, my guilty pleasure is Baby Got Back, that rap kicked ass.

And the beastie boys aren't really rap...esp. nowadays.

"No.....Sleeep....'till Brooklyn!"

it's still rap, whether or not popular.

is it really? Its kinda like hair-band rap or something.
 
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