Originally posted by: platinumike
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: JASANITY
Originally posted by: platinumike
Originally posted by: Sniper82
Even with kb/mouse you would need something good to set them on for it to work right. I need a desk to set my kb/mouse on to play games. I've never heard of anyone having their Xbox or whatever on their desk. I couldn't even use a table in front of my couch.
Anyway like some have said give PC's a couple years and they will pass Xbox 360 and PS3 up no problem yet again(gfx wise and hardware). Even now Xbox 360 doesn't look any better(if not worse in some games).
Also reason we ain't seen alot of sports,adventure,ect is because they don't do so well on the PC and probably never did. MMORPG's,FPS'ers,some racing and a couple others will live for a long long time if not forever because theres millions playing and I think will continue to play.
Furniture is a silly thing to bring into this arguement but i do agree. Also, kbs for gaming will soon be obsolete(analog/heat sensing/gyration) controls will soon be on the way and i think will soon replace kbs in the next 5+ years.
Pc will catch up in terms of graphics, but food for thought: the ps2 has been out for 5+ years now and look at the graphics it can produce here and that looks just as good as any pc game that just came out. So it may be another 5-6 years before the pc can catch up with 360/ps3.
Funny thing is that the games that really sell and keep pc gaming alive are the ones that require the least ammount of hardware upgrades(the sims, warcraft/starcraft, mmorpgs, and rts)
I like this discussion...to me it it all comes down to this: Video card: $300 Console: $399(not to mention the consoles will have the latest in technology, while the video card is just one of the upgrades required)
This guy knows what he's talking about.
no he does not.
Black is a Criterion Games production. It was originally slated to be a pc game. The graphics from the previews a year and a half ago(for pc) are pratically the same as the ones on this xbox360 version. The graphics are moderately good at best.
look at the models. low poly count everywhere. the gun is low poly, the enviroment is low poly, the textures are low resolution(look carefully at the gun and at the the walls and that car, it's very reminiscent of Red Faction, the original one.) The smoke is nice, but call of duty 2 does better smoke. The bump mapping is used to cgreat effect, but every game since 2002 has used bump maps to death. Particle effects are below average in number and detail.
ok well i was wrong...if we disect it like this pc games running on med-high settings will look beter, my point was that a 5 yr old $150 console can produce graphics that good...that is all, and to me and the casual gamer there is not much of a difference between this game and far cry or something.
Originally posted by: JASANITY
Originally posted by: PsharkJF
If you really think every PC gamer spends Alienware-esque prices on their upgrades, you're delusional.
Edit: By the way, I wouldn't expect you to know a thing about programming, so I'll enlighten you. If you forced everyone to be using the same hardware (like consoles).. then, my friend, you would truly see how much more powerful a pc is then your $400 heating element on the floor next to you.
Haha, I don't think you know anything about programming. By having a standard hardware set, programmers can maximize software for that hardware. That is why there are smoother framerates/higher quality/ and higher res graphics on something like an xbox 360 compared to your PC.
Originally posted by: aLeoN
Originally posted by: JASANITY
Haha, I don't think you know anything about programming. By having a standard hardware set, programmers can maximize software for that hardware. That is why there are smoother framerates/higher quality/ and higher res graphics on something like an xbox 360 compared to your PC.
Quake 4?
How I see it man, as 360 + PS3 get more computer-like/esque, it only reinforces the fact that PC gaming is fun and will be around a lot longer than consoles as these two are just hybrids of what a console was and what a PC is. Thank the other company for not taking this road.
Originally posted by: sxr7171
Originally posted by: aLeoN
Originally posted by: JASANITY
Haha, I don't think you know anything about programming. By having a standard hardware set, programmers can maximize software for that hardware. That is why there are smoother framerates/higher quality/ and higher res graphics on something like an xbox 360 compared to your PC.
Quake 4?
How I see it man, as 360 + PS3 get more computer-like/esque, it only reinforces the fact that PC gaming is fun and will be around a lot longer than consoles as these two are just hybrids of what a console was and what a PC is. Thank the other company for not taking this road.
Even Nintendo is using PCesque processors and graphics chips but the games and controls are definitely not. Yes, thank Nintendo because they are the only ones (Sega used to also) that actually advance console gaming in a different direction from where PC games are going.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Don't forget to download your Crashbox 360 Patch!
Originally posted by: drpootums
when I saw the Xbox 360 at a local gamestop in action for the first time yesterday playing CoD 2 I was looking everywhere I could for something to gawk at...but...I couldn't. I know it's just one game, but CoD on my PC looks almost as good as CoD 2 on an Xbox 360. I'll give you my final opinion on Saturday if i get CoD 2 for my PC. I'm guessing that CoD 2 for pc is going to look a lot better than the Xbox 360 version, as the original looks almost as good.
I was not "blown away" by the "super graphics" at all.
Originally posted by: JASANITY
I just played Xbox, Call of Duty, NBA 2K6, and Perfect Dark Zero on a 50 inch HDTV and surround sound. 19 inch pc monitor is nothing compared to that.
Originally posted by: JASANITY
Have you seen Call of Duty?
Originally posted by: JASANITY
Also, people who play FPS on Xbox or better than PC FPS gamers
Originally posted by: TheUnk
Originally posted by: KMFJD I will say that each has it's niche, concoles cannot hold a pc's jock strap in MMORPG's, RTS, and of course FPS, now if you could hook up a mouse/keyboard...
Then you would do what? Play with the keyboard on your lap while you sit on the couch and try to use the arm rest for the mouse? Or would you really give up your ##" big screen TV and play at your desk on either your monitor or a dinky TV.
This is why FPS games just aren't a good idea for consoles even with a keyboard/mouse.. The only reason I like consoles at all is cause I can sit my lazy ass on the couch, recline back and play games on a huge screen.
Originally posted by: JASANITY
Well, as I called several months ago, the end of PC gaming has arrived. With these next generation systems, they have now made the PC obsolete to play games on. The PC game market may have a few MMORPG, but other than that its over. The only thing a PC is useful for now is Office work and maybe some TV. Of course the TV part will be obsolete once HD's come down in price.
Originally posted by: JASANITY
Originally posted by: stinger25
Hasn't this same rhetorical bs been spouted before with the announcments of the previous consoles? And yet, PC games reign supreme...
With every console release, a gaming market segment for the PC has died every time(Sports, original role player, adventure, etc.) Now all gaming segments will be overcome other than MMORPG's, but all Xbox needs is the Keyboard/mouse add-on I've been rooting for for years.
Originally posted by: wpeng
Originally posted by: JASANITY
I just played Xbox, Call of Duty, NBA 2K6, and Perfect Dark Zero on a 50 inch HDTV and surround sound. 19 inch pc monitor is nothing compared to that.
I think some people are purposefully missing the point.
If you hooked your PC with a $200-250 video card up to a 50" HDTV and surround sound, set the resolution to 1280 x 720, and used medium textures/physics/draw distance/etc..., you would probably get the same experience. But, you would probably have a higher frame rate than 30 fps. Now, if you spent as much money on your video card as you did on the Xbox 360, you could push the settings to high and still have twice the fps of an Xbox 360.
Originally posted by: JASANITY
Originally posted by: mezrah
Originally posted by: Elcs
Time to sit back, have a few cans and watch the carnage commence.
Like pay to view boxing, only cheaper.
Lol
haha, excellent point of view.
Originally posted by: TheUnk
Originally posted by: wpeng
Originally posted by: JASANITY
I just played Xbox, Call of Duty, NBA 2K6, and Perfect Dark Zero on a 50 inch HDTV and surround sound. 19 inch pc monitor is nothing compared to that.
I think some people are purposefully missing the point.
If you hooked your PC with a $200-250 video card up to a 50" HDTV and surround sound, set the resolution to 1280 x 720, and used medium textures/physics/draw distance/etc..., you would probably get the same experience. But, you would probably have a higher frame rate than 30 fps. Now, if you spent as much money on your video card as you did on the Xbox 360, you could push the settings to high and still have twice the fps of an Xbox 360.
Too bad 90% of PC games don't support HDTV resolutions, and even when you can hack them to work at that res they are usually stretched or the tops/bottoms cut off.
Originally posted by: JASANITY
I just played Xbox, Call of Duty, NBA 2K6, and Perfect Dark Zero on a 50 inch HDTV and surround sound. 19 inch pc monitor is nothing compared to that.
Originally posted by: Genx87
Most PC games are including widescreen support which is usually a 1050 resolution. They also support 4:3 resolutions much higher than any console can go, including the xBox360 and PS3.
Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: JASANITY
I just played Xbox, Call of Duty, NBA 2K6, and Perfect Dark Zero on a 50 inch HDTV and surround sound. 19 inch pc monitor is nothing compared to that.
Weren't you the one complaining about the price of PCs? Someone like me, who realizes that TV sucks and refuses to own one, could buy multiple gaming PCs for the cost of what you just described.
Anyway, have any numbers yet or are you just back to troll some more?
Originally posted by: TGS
Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: JASANITY
I just played Xbox, Call of Duty, NBA 2K6, and Perfect Dark Zero on a 50 inch HDTV and surround sound. 19 inch pc monitor is nothing compared to that.
Weren't you the one complaining about the price of PCs? Someone like me, who realizes that TV sucks and refuses to own one, could buy multiple gaming PCs for the cost of what you just described.
Anyway, have any numbers yet or are you just back to troll some more?
Doesn't that sound strange... You have to purchase an expensive television to go along with your console to get the full experience? Oh wait... you need surround sound too. Are we talking a nice receiver and speakers? Blurry textures, bump mapping on everything, and no decent AA settings... The dawn of consoles indeed. Also the fact most of the consoles are sold at a loss to start.