The Federation vs The Republic?

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0roo0roo

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federation.. a few starships can blow up a planet from what i remember

a few starships could just beam all the opposition into space
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
federation.. a few starships can blow up a planet from what i remember

a few starships could just beam all the opposition into space

Death Star

BTW, this was supposed to be a ground war. I expected no help from the air.
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
You star trek fans realize that crap is all made up right?

The Republic would own.
Wrong again. *Sigh*
Might as well convert this into ST vs SW. Oops, there goes the genesis device and your ENTIRE FLEET.
 
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Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
ok, since we're veering off topic, the way speeds work in both are different.

Star Wars Ships are faster in the FTL(faster than light) category, but slower in the sub light speed.
The Federation controls about 8-12% of the galaxy, and it takes months to cross federation space.
Starwars the Republic and Empire controlled most of the galaxy. It took them weeks to cross the galaxy.

The Federation has the advantage that they can change corse in route, Star Wars the have to make jumps, which are precalculated by the computer and can't be changed once in hyperspace.
Slipstream and transwarp. Oops I win!

Doesn't count, both are technologies the fed doesn't posses, they are both ghey tech that the idiots in charge of Voyager came up with.
 

atom

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I just have one more thing to add:

Princess Leia in the Gold Bikini + Natalie Portman>>>>>>>> All Star Trek Women

Nuff said. End of debate. Close this topic. Star Wars wins.
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
ok, since we're veering off topic, the way speeds work in both are different.

Star Wars Ships are faster in the FTL(faster than light) category, but slower in the sub light speed.
The Federation controls about 8-12% of the galaxy, and it takes months to cross federation space.
Starwars the Republic and Empire controlled most of the galaxy. It took them weeks to cross the galaxy.

The Federation has the advantage that they can change corse in route, Star Wars the have to make jumps, which are precalculated by the computer and can't be changed once in hyperspace.
Slipstream and transwarp. Oops I win!

Doesn't count, both are technologies the fed doesn't posses, they are both ghey tech that the idiots in charge of Voyager came up with.
Transwarp has been around before Voyager. By the way, the federation does have access to a slipstream crystal thingy, and voyager went through transwarp a bit so I'm sure the sensors picked something up. We're expanding into ST vs SW aren't we?
 

Trezza

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
You star trek fans realize that crap is all made up right?

The Republic would own.

I don't get your point...are you saying SW is real
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
federation.. a few starships can blow up a planet from what i remember

a few starships could just beam all the opposition into space

Death Star

BTW, this was supposed to be a ground war. I expected no help from the air.

And the Death Star probably wouldn't pose much of a threat. I imagine that a dampening field could be emitted to prevent it from moving at high speed (whatever its max speed is), and if it tries to shoot down a starship, there's an easy solution: fly to the side opposite the super laser. Or just use some torpedoes on the laser emitters; not like the Death Star (1st one) has any substantial shields. And a torpedo could take out the shield generator of the second one.

Transwarp has been around before Voyager. By the way, the federation does have access to a slipstream crystal thingy, and voyager went through transwarp a bit so I'm sure the sensors picked something up. We're expanding into ST vs SW aren't we?
Yeah, wasn't it Star Trek 3, that the Excelsior had transwarp, but Scotty sabotaged it?
The quantum slipstream wasn't a crystal as I recall; wasn't it just a way of using the main deflector to create the slipstream? They did steal a transwarp generator from the Borg once though.

Also, at the close of the Voyager series, they came home with some advanced weapons and armor technologies. They probably would go and destroy the technology because of the temporal prime directive or some crap like that. You got the technology, might as well use it. A spread of transphasic torpedoes would make short work of the Death Star.
 

Rayden

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as far as in space... tie fighters don't even have shields. you throw rocks at them and they blowup.

and for the ground war. think Hoth. does that army have any chance against whatever unseen Star Trek ground forces there are?

and weapons will always outdo the armor/shields/defence. just the way it is. if you watch TNG Enterprise vs some Romulan or Klingon ship, after about 3 shots one of the ships is disabled. it isn't cause their sheilds are weak, its cause the weaponry is so far advanced.


and look at the computer in Star Wars... wimpy.
and some noob pilot has better aim then their best targetting scanners


Some links
Darth Maul vs Voyager

Funny Movie

and finally
Star Trek Ground Forces
Improved Hazzard team. The first two have Type-3A rifles with underslung grenade launchers while the third has a Assault Rifle version with a grenade launcher.


also i remembeted that in one episode of some star trek... i forget which one. they encountered a species that used lasers as weapons. They mentioned that lasers were very primitive weapons and did absolutely nothing to their shields.
if im not mistaken all Star Wars weapons use lasers.
 

TheCorm

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In Star Wars...the large cruisers are very very slow as far as I can see, they hardly move at all....that's how the death star is able to target and destroy them.....federation starships appear much more manoeverable.

Can I restate that we are talking about Republic Technology at the end of Episode II and Star Trek Technology at end of TNG / Beginning or DS9....so any future late Voyager or Empire technology and ships should not be included.

Jamie
 

Rayden

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just think about these things:

"Make it so"

the enterprise can split into two seperate parts.

great music theme. of course so does star wars.
 
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