The final nail in the coffin for HTC. HTC One A9.

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poofyhairguy

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Speaking of change of heart, I've been reading the reviews that were coming out in the past couple of days, and I've actually started leaning the other way

Yeah the reviews so far are very positive especially on sites that normally prefer iPhones.
 

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It's gonna succeed, it has to for HTC to be solvent. This is their last chance to pull themselves into profitability. I hope they make it.
 

core2slow

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It's gonna succeed, it has to for HTC to be solvent. This is their last chance to pull themselves into profitability. I hope they make it.
They're not. They're not playing against the house here. There are a bunch of Chinese newcomers plus the usual established mnfgrs that they'll have to take into consideration. And for some dumb, oblivious reasons, HTC don't seem to care.
 

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They're not. They're not playing against the house here. There are a bunch of Chinese newcomers plus the usual established mnfgrs that they'll have to take into consideration. And for some dumb, oblivious reasons, HTC don't seem to care.

I don't think chinese newcomers have anything near the brand recognition that HTC has. Maybe in a few years they'll take over in the US/Euro market but for now I see HTC making a small comeback with this handset. Obviously in China or other eastern markets this will be viewed as overpriced.
 

cronos

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I don't think chinese newcomers have anything near the brand recognition that HTC has. Maybe in a few years they'll take over in the US/Euro market but for now I see HTC making a small comeback with this handset. Obviously in China or other eastern markets this will be viewed as overpriced.

They also can't provide the support that HTC is able to provide (the uh-oh protection is really amazing). Also, we need to think of this as a US-only push instead of global. The price for this phone isn't that great outside this special US promo. In fact I believe the spec is even different in some of the international versions.
 

lopri

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Chinese smartphone manufacturers are in an unfortunate predicament where the U.S. government lays suspicious eyes and existing corporate players (will) demand rent payments upon their entry.
 

tsupersonic

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Seems like an awesome phone. I wish it was priced $349 or $399 permanently - I think it would be among the best in this price bracket.
 

core2slow

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I guess you guys have never heard of this little company called "Huawei"...or One Plus, or Meizu, or ZTE. They're already shown up on US carriers and are priced competitively, usually undercutting bigger manufacturers. Those with tin foil hats can rest assure as almost all of these companies are globalised, they have HQs all over the world and adhere to strict US guidelines just like any other company who wish to do business here.

As for brand recognition, that is meaningless when you churn out overpriced, substandard phones year after year. HTC have been grossly overshadowed by Samsung since the galaxy s3 days and have sold away parts of their company each year to maintain afloat. Nothing about their business model reassure me that I should give my hard earn money to them. That's not the kind of brand recognition that I care about.
 

cronos

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I guess you guys have never heard of this little company called "Huawei"...or One Plus, or Meizu, or ZTE. They're already shown up on US carriers and are priced competitively, usually undercutting bigger manufacturers. Those with tin foil hats can rest assure as almost all of these companies are globalised, they have HQs all over the world and adhere to strict US guidelines just like any other company who wish to do business here.

Hey I've heard of Huawei before, didn't they make a Nexus or something?

There's no need to get offended, of course most of the regulars here are familiar with those names, but these companies have a lot of work if they want to actually penetrate the flagship market (or even mid-range market) in the US.

So far out of the names you mentioned only One Plus that I've heard of that is brave enough to push the specs to flagship territory, but unfortunately with their stupid invite system, they just ended up alienating people who wanted to try their phones, not to mention their warranty and support (mixed reviews on these). They do seem to have loyal fanboys though, which is pretty significant in terms of recognition. Maybe that's their strategy all along, I don't know.

About the others, I've seen mostly budget, low-spec stuff being discussed all around. I believe ZTE is killing it in the $50 or lower BYOSD area. For higher specs, I in fact actually heard more about Asus and Xiaomi who came up with some quality alternatives, two brands which you curiously didn't mention at all.

As for brand recognition, that is meaningless when you churn out overpriced, substandard phones year after year. HTC have been grossly overshadowed by Samsung since the galaxy s3 days and have sold away parts of their company each year to maintain afloat. Nothing about their business model reassure me that I should give my hard earn money to them. That's not the kind of brand recognition that I care about.

Exactly. Brand recognition is absolutely meaningless if it doesn't translate to sales numbers and actual, top of the line, products. This is true for HTC or any other brand names. Get it?
 

pete6032

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Will the ONE M9 get marshmallow?

Why would anyone buy this over the ONE m9? You can get the m9 on ebay for around $400 new.
 
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postmortemIA

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Will the ONE M9 get marshmallow?
Sure it will.. but will it get anything after that?

Why would anyone buy this over the ONE m9? You can get the m9 on ebay for around $400 new.
Few reasons
-fingerprint sensor
-questionable overheating of Snapdragon 810
-AMOLED display
- better (probably) camera
-sound enhancements when using headphones
 
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tsupersonic

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Few reasons
-fingerprint sensor
-questionable overheating of Snapdragon 810
-AMOLED display
- better (probably) camera
-sound enhancements when using headphones
The A9 definitely has a better camera. It's a 13 MP camera w/ OIS. The M9 doesn't have OIS, and produces crap photos compared to flagships. From the reviews, the A9 competes with the G4/S6, which says a lot. I just wish the A9 had a slightly bigger battery - like 2500-2800 mAH range.
 

lopri

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A review @AndroidPolice

I’ll be honest, when I accepted this phone for review, I did not expect to like it very much at all. I wasn’t a huge fan of the M9, and didn’t know what HTC could really bring to the table in a new phone to address my concerns. But it really feels like they did. The A9 has better battery life than the M9 ever did, be it Android 6.0 or the chipset or display (or more likely, a combination thereof). It has a better display in basically every respect. The camera is at least as good, though I wouldn’t say it’s amazing or anything. Android 6.0 with a lighter version of Sense is also just very nice to use, and the phone is quick and responsive. The fingerprint scanner is a nice security convenience. And, despite being positioned down market, the phone really feels no slower in most day-to-day use.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/27/htc-one-a9-review-pretty-pretty-pretty-good-pretty-good/

It is not a data-driven review and the dude is prone to snark, but I do value his opinions and he seems to like what he sees. Seeing how easily the A57s shut themselves off in the 5X, it seems to me the new A53s are more than up to snuff for "good enough" performance in Marshmallow.
 

dawheat

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The A9 definitely has a better camera. It's a 13 MP camera w/ OIS. The M9 doesn't have OIS, and produces crap photos compared to flagships. From the reviews, the A9 competes with the G4/S6, which says a lot. I just wish the A9 had a slightly bigger battery - like 2500-2800 mAH range.

The reviews are pretty positive and it seems a well optimized phone. Price is going to be important as $500 really is a non-starter IMO.

Battery life is surprising though I wonder how much is due to the SOC and how much due to Marshmallow.

Camera definitely doesn't seem in the class of the G4/S6/iPhone however - all reviews seem to say it's competent, not great.
 

zerogear

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A lot of people seem to like it, simply because it looks like an iPhone, but runs Android.
 

lopri

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That OnePlus X looks pretty good, too. I have had a soft spot for glass backs since the iPhone 4. I am not digging that invite system, however.

It will be interesting to see how the mid-range phones compete against each other. We now have the the A9, Nexus 5X, OnePlus X, Zenfone 2, and Moto X. The way I see them, all of them have something unique to offer.

@poofyhairguy: When did you become a Lifer? Congrats!
 
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cronos

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So despite the title of this thread and even my own strong (negative) opinion about this phone earlier in this thread, I found myself this morning really wanting to order it before the price jumps to $499.
 

poofyhairguy

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So despite the title of this thread and even my own strong (negative) opinion about this phone earlier in this thread, I found myself this morning really wanting to order it before the price jumps to $499.

If you like the style I can't see why its a bad idea.
 
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