the fo shizzle rap thread

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bullstory

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Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: bullstory
Originally posted by: ric1287
haha how about naming someone not on the radio or in a club. Rather someone with actual talent not just commercial success. If you are talking about most successful or sold out then these names could come up.

Common, tribe, nas, blackstar (talib and mosdef), and real stuff eminem put out before becoming a pop star,

what is artistic tallent worth if its not popular (i.e. not many people like it) academics are probably your heart throbs on that basis.

then this is a different list. That bs is not talent, its garbage made to be played in clubs to make money. Hip hop is supposed to be about intelligent lyrics and rhyming skill. Not talkin about ho's and crystal.

I couldnt have put it better myself. Thank god someone else sees it my way.

whats the problem with glamarous lyrics?
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: schneiderguy
some of eminems early stuff (his later stuff is good too, just not as good)
or common

yeah "Any Man" off of Sound Bombin comp #2 is amazing. His old battles are nice too. Common is my all time favorite (with a little bias since im from Chi City)
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: ric1287
haha how about naming someone not on the radio or in a club. Rather someone with actual talent not just commercial success. If you are talking about most successful or sold out then these names could come up.

Common, tribe, nas, blackstar (talib and mosdef), and real stuff eminem put out before becoming a pop star,

what is artistic tallent worth if its not popular (i.e. not many people like it) academics are probably your heart throbs on that basis.[/quote]

then this is a different list. That bs is not talent, its garbage made to be played in clubs to make money. Hip hop is supposed to be about intelligent lyrics and rhyming skill. Not talkin about ho's and crystal.[/quote]

I couldnt have put it better myself. Thank god someone else sees it my way.[/quote]

whats the problem with glamarous lyrics?[/quote]


The problem is that its not hip hop then. Its no different then a boy band or britney spears. Its some random chorus that people can sing in their car or in a club, along with pointless filler verses. It will play for a month or 2 then be replaced with something else exactly the same.
 

Rip the Jacker

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The best rapper of all time is Rakim. No need to dispute or argue. Just listen to Follow the Leader and Paid in Full, and realize that those lyrics were written in 86-88. This guy was too ahead of his time, almost no one is even near his level of skill (in his time, or even now), not to mention all the classic albums that he had.

Rakim is the closest to perfect in the world of rap.
 

RelaxTheMind

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biggie made up a lot of his own words. His hooks were catchy and had hot beats along with a cartoonish voice. thats about it. doesnt equate to best rapper.

I personally like talib + kweli...
 

Al Neri

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Immortal Technique SUCKS....

he's a "political rapper" give me a break... pretentiously stupid.

keep trying to free mumia abu jamal...........who killed a cop :disgust:

with that said, big L and 2pac are my favorite rappers... and lyrically canibus is up there.
 

Accipiter22

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White people are obsessed with being 'gangster' so they all LOVE tupac. Black people are more apt to like biggie more as he was rapping about social conditions and a lifestyle and coming up poor. where as tupac was more 'oh I'm a gangster..killing people etc etc'
 

latino666

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Originally posted by: Accipiter22
White people are obsessed with being 'gangster' so they all LOVE tupac. Black people are more apt to like biggie more as he was rapping about social conditions and a lifestyle and coming up poor. where as tupac was more 'oh I'm a gangster..killing people etc etc'

2pac IMHO made the best "social conditions, lifestyle, coming up poor" raps
 

Al Neri

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Originally posted by: Accipiter22
White people are obsessed with being 'gangster' so they all LOVE tupac. Black people are more apt to like biggie more as he was rapping about social conditions and a lifestyle and coming up poor. where as tupac was more 'oh I'm a gangster..killing people etc etc'

broad generalizations :disgust:
 

Miramonti

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Its always cute to see a group of 94% non-black crowd of geeks debate who was the greatest rapper.
 

Molondo

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Its always cute to see a group of 94% non-black crowd of geeks debate who was the greatest rapper.

Yea, just as ridiciulous as a black guy using the internet
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: Molondo
Originally posted by: jjsole
Its always cute to see a group of 94% non-black crowd of geeks debate who was the greatest rapper.

Yea, just as ridiciulous as a black guy using the internet

why do you have to be black to debate music that everyone can hear? What makes a black person from the "hood" more adept to debating the issue.
 

thejackal1

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Its always cute to see a group of 94% non-black crowd of geeks debate who was the greatest rapper.

Probably one of the most retarted statements ever. Biggie was one of the best rappers out there. Listen to Ready to Die.
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Molondo
Originally posted by: jjsole
Its always cute to see a group of 94% non-black crowd of geeks debate who was the greatest rapper.

Yea, just as ridiciulous as a black guy using the internet

why do you have to be black to debate music that everyone can hear? What makes a black person from the "hood" more adept to debating the issue.

You don't. Yet you're now taking it a step further by referencing "the hood".

Either case, I just think it's cute.

Carry on.
 

Rip the Jacker

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Eminem?

Best rapper?

Sure, he can spit at times.. but he has absolutely no classic albums, and few classic songs. He has freestyle ability, he rarely shows off his real skills, but most of his stuff is trash and dissing Christina Aguilera, NSync = not hip hop.
 

dawks

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Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Originally posted by: dawks
biggie is good, but 2Pac is the absolute best. 2Pac has so many great songs.. I have 250 of his now in my collection.. 2Pac has at least 12 full discs out.. Biggie has 5?

More doesnt always mean better

I'm not saying more is better, but 2Pac has more good songs then Biggie has songs.
 
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