The Future isn't Fusion after all

Phynaz

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We have built a heterogeneous compute ecosystem that is built on industry standards,' boasted AMD corproate fellow Phil Rogers in a statement regarding the renaming exercise. 'As such, we believe it’s only fitting that the name of this evolving architecture and platform be representative of the entire, technical community that is leading the way in this very important area of technology and programming development.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2012/01/19/amd-ditches-fusion-branding/1
 

Phynaz

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Did your funny bone sleep in today?

Another re-branding from AMD. Their marketing wonks never stick with anything long enough for it to sink into the public consciousness.

It's sadly humorous to see them make the same mistakes over and over.

Or, to answer your question, it changes nothing, really. Just provides more reinforcement that AMD's problems are of their own making.
 
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RavenSEAL

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Did your funny bone sleep in today?

Another re-branding from AMD. Their marketing wonks never stick with anything long enough for it to sink into the public consciousness.

It's sadly humorous to see them make the same mistakes over and over.

Or, to answer your question, it changes nothing, really. Just provides more reinforcement that AMD's problems are of their own making.

So if I went a changed my cat's name today I would be considered to have personal problems?

Honestly, they just changed the technical name of things, get over it.

Fusion was nothing more than pure marketing.
 

Phynaz

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Fusion was nothing more than pure marketing.

Marketing is incredibly important, as is building a brand. Look at your own sig, it's full of marketing.

I don't know why you are rolling eyes over that.
 

KingFatty

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Changing a name could mean:
1) the original name was poorly chosen
2) the new name is poorly chosen

Either way, it seems that there is something poorly done?
 

RavenSEAL

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Marketing is incredibly important, as is building a brand. Look at your own sig, it's full of marketing.

I don't know why you are rolling eyes over that.

Which obviously doesn't apply to people any where near our level of technical savviness.

At the end of the day we all know that the components and it's objectives remain unchanged.
 

skipsneeky2

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I thought the name "fusion" was pretty original and it fit with what the platform was offering basically being a gpu+cpu package fused in one.

Why this new tongue twisting name who knows but perhaps intel can name their next generation processors"intelligent processing apu" or something wild cause when it comes down to it intel sorta has its own apu with that onboard hd2000 and hd3000.
 

boxleitnerb

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The company Arctic cooling has the name "fusion" patented and filed an injunction or what they call it against AMD in September already. So this is what it's about.
 

tweakboy

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Still the name sounds nice,, Fusion ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Id grab won but my 2007 CPU is rock solid and rock solid with my DAW.. amazing chip the LGA775 are. What was your OC ,,, also ya put everoything to stock settings in BIOS and dont use OCinig software either.

Than give her a run. your PSU is fine.. ok gl
 

Ferzerp

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I thought the name "fusion" was pretty original and it fit with what the platform was offering basically being a gpu+cpu package fused in one.

Why this new tongue twisting name who knows but perhaps intel can name their next generation processors"intelligent processing apu" or something wild cause when it comes down to it intel sorta has its own apu with that onboard hd2000 and hd3000.


It's still just a CPU with integrated video. Obviously, marketing works since people have readily accepted the term "apu".
 

Arkadrel

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Did your funny bone sleep in today?

Another re-branding from AMD. Their marketing wonks never stick with anything long enough for it to sink into the public consciousness.

It's sadly humorous to see them make the same mistakes over and over.

Or, to answer your question, it changes nothing, really. Just provides more reinforcement that AMD's problems are of their own making.


http://www.techpowerup.com/159096/Arctic-To-Sue-AMD-Over-Fusion-Brand-Name.html


Swiss company Arctic (formerly Arctic Cooling), has used the brand name "Fusion" on its PSU products well before AMD's so-called "Fusion" APU family came to be. Arctic was smart enough to register its trademark, and is now piling up ammo to take AMD to court over alleged trademark infringement. Arctic acquired the brand name "Fusion" from Boot Up International Ltd., and its Fusion trademark is valid in Europe. Still a sizable market for AMD.

The interesting part is, AMD doesn't use "Fusion" as a brand name anywhere, except maybe its company slogan "The future is fusion", where "fusion" is used as a verb (fusion of various computing technologies to give a homogenous computing experience), and the company internally referring to its APU architecture as "Fusion", on the outside though, AMD brands its APUs under its Vision processor family, with no "Fusion" branding anywhere, except the company slogan.

Further, AMD even renamed its "fusion architecture" to "heterogeneous architecture". Arctic could have grounds to claim that AMD's use of "fusion" may have hurt its brand or sales. This is one Arctic fishing expedition you don't want to miss.
AMD is being sued for no reason...
because it has a slogan "the future is fusion".

Apperntly Artics Power supply units, fusion line is trademarked, so AMD cant use "fusion" in its slogan for its APU's.


Next up to be sued?



It would make more sense for Artic to sue Gillette they atleast use "fusion" as a brand name.
Even though their 2 differnt products... ei A razor blade, and a Power supply unit (so is a CPU vs PSU).

I think Artics case looks weak but... meh, maybe they ll score some money off AMD anyways.
 
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IonusX

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its becasue the fusion marketing program also happens to be used by arctic cooling. they did it to prevent a legal actiomn with arctic threatened upon them
techpowerup has all you could ever want on this matter. front page.
 

Phynaz

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Which obviously doesn't apply to people any where near our level of technical savviness.

At the end of the day we all know that the components and it's objectives remain unchanged.

It applies to everybody. Name a single organization that has been successful without marketing. There isn't one.
 

skipsneeky2

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It's still just a CPU with integrated video. Obviously, marketing works since people have readily accepted the term "apu".

But amd clearly has the advantage with its video in fusion.

But still hd2000 is 3-4x faster then a 7200gs which was a common gpu in its performance class 4 years ago in oem machines and yes i did compare the two with games this week as i thought about the 7200gs as a decent replacement

Hell i am playing BF2 at 1920x1080 on low and its smooth on hd2000 and while a old game many people prob went out buying a $300 gpu at the time to get the same performance at the same settings.

Still crappy but if you like older games like BF2 intel works:thumbsup:
 

piesquared

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But amd clearly has the advantage with its video in fusion.

But still hd2000 is 3-4x faster then a 7200gs which was a common gpu in its performance class 4 years ago in oem machines and yes i did compare the two with games this week as i thought about the 7200gs as a decent replacement

Hell i am playing BF2 at 1920x1080 on low and its smooth on hd2000 and while a old game many people prob went out buying a $300 gpu at the time to get the same performance at the same settings.

Still crappy but if you like older games like BF2 intel works:thumbsup:

Well once again, here's the thing with that. 4 years ago reviewers considered image quality a very important part of graphics hardware. Now that intel has marketed it's way into the race, IQ seems to have become a back bencher at best, and completely irrelevant at best in terms of reviews. In fact intel's graphics are rarely reviewed at all and yet still manage to be compared to the real graphics hardware from other real graphics hardware producers. On top of that, it's all but impossible to compare intel graphics to anything else since their image quality is that bad, yet they continue to get a free pass. Some reviewers and review sites are rather disgusting especially when they set the bar so high for other providers. Money talks and unbiased, fair reviews walk.
 

Ferzerp

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I think you're mistaken. I think they get a "free pass" because they aren't worth reviewing. The kind of people who sit around reading computer reviews (us) are the kind of people who know not to bother with intel graphics when we want to game. Just because AMD integrated graphics suck less, doesn't make them special really. They still aren't what most of us want to use.

I think you're looking for conspiracies where none exist. If you were right, there would be some debate about intel integrated graphics. There is none. There is a consensus that they are enough to display a desktop, and productivity applications. Maybe watch a video, but that's about it.

We could even make the argument that the conspiracy exists on the AMD side. You have reviews and forum posters who will try to evaluate them for gaming. They really aren't suited for that either. Just because they aren't as unsuited as intel, we shouldn't give them a free pass.

You see, it's all a matter of perspective.
 

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Trademark and Trade Dress are things that if you don't defend them, then you lose them. If Chevrolet for example incorporated a diagonal bar into the design of a grill on one of their cars Volvo would be all over them. Even though a grill is pretty much all cosmetic, and doesn't add much functionality to the vehicle.
 
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