The future of Apple?

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brblx

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Have some self control and don't click on the threads then.

sorry, the apple dick-frothing is just everywhere now. i could swear some kind of weird, polite, turtle-neck wearing forum invasion is going on.
 

dwell

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Hasn't there marketshare in PCs been going up? And those that said they are shrinking, haven't their revenues been increases annually?

When HP, the biggest name in personal computers, says they are spinning off their PC division. Uh, no, PC is not a good business to be in.
 

ProfJohn

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They'll keep making great products. Maybe won't be able to come up with another industry shaker like the iPod, iPhone, or iPad again but will continue to make products markedly better than the competition.
I wouldn't be so sure.

No one expected them to come out with any of those products or for them to be so dominate until they were released.

Apple is supposedly working on an iTv.

I own an internet TV and it is awesome, but a pain in the ass to work with or to do many things.

If Apple can create a great user interface for an internet TV they could create another product that might dominate its part of the market. (think high end TVs ala Sony)
 

brblx

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I have the same feelings but only about your family.

and the difference between you an me is that i don't care what you think of me or my family.

you, however, apparently get a sore anus when the propieter of playskool's computer division bites it with months of warning. they have a name for this type of attachment disorder, you know.
 

Bitek

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Hard not to see this as Apple's zenith.

You don't just replace a visionary. They will prosper for some time, but can very easily fade to average like MSFT or Nintendo, etc
 

Jadow

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Apple is just going to revert to the mean and become another corporate zombie. Welcome to irrelevance Apple.
 

bfdd

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They need a new salesman. The 4s presentation was extremely lacking without Steve there.
 

brianmanahan

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i personally hope it fails, ive always hated apple and never owned a single product of theirs. ive used their products at work, however, and hated them all. single-button mouse? useless. iMac? ridiculously expensive. iPhone? worthless without keyboard. they basically have succeeded by pandering overpriced crap to hipsters.
 

Krynj

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Android isn't a phone and the 4S has not been released yet. What's your point other than trolling?

That's not trolling. That's stating clear facts. Android is gaining massive market share. It's not a phone, no, but, if you asked Apple who their biggest competition is on the mobile market, they'd say Android, not any particular device. There will be dozens of hot new Android devices out by years end -- and the Nexus Prime is going to snag a lot of iPhone deflectors, and you can count on that.
 

ProfJohn

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They should have changed the case and called it the iPhone 5 and that would have killed half the bitching.

I don't own an iPhone but from what little I read the 4s is still a major improvement over the 4.

It is like telling your parents you want a Ferrari and they give a Porsche and you freak out and start crying. Sure it isn't the i5 but it is still a damn nice phone.
 

Arkaign

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Eh, they own the high end. Netbooks have been around for years, still no one can undercut apple even with ultrabooks.

I just don't see any long-term growth opportunities for Apple's model. Their computer and notebook sales aren't a dominant part of their success, and those products aren't even really 'high-end' in the traditional sense, although the aesthetics and packaging are quite good.

The real bread and butter is the huge profitability of iPad and iPhone, both of which will continue to face increasingly brutal competition. The imminent $199 7" Kindle Fire is a hint. Imagine what a slightly more capable 10" model at $299 would do. The writing is already on the wall for phones, and the big cell companies who back-end the pricing make more money by shoving a $300 Droid into a $49 or 'free' contract agreement than trying to do the same thing with a $500+ iPhone product. Apple is bleeding marketshare in the phone biz.

I don't think it's some super doomsday scenario for Apple, but I think within 12 months the picture will be much clearer, and certainly within 5 years Apple will probably be a fraction of its current size unless major innovations are made.

Cheaper technology pricing for components (flash memory, processors, screens, batteries), along with increasing average quality, and a very cutthroat competitive marketplace all spells a repeat in the smartphone and tablet areas just as occurred in the PC market, TV market, etc. Probably within 3 years at most we'll see legitimate $99 droid or other non-apple phones that are more powerful than one would really even need in a phone, and probably in the $200 range for tablets of that nature (quad core cpu, 64gb+ ssd, 10" hd screen, cpu-integrated gpu acceleration, etc).
 

ProfJohn

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i personally hope it fails, ive always hated apple and never owned a single product of theirs. ive used their products at work, however, and hated them all. single-button mouse? retarded. iMac? retarded. overpriced crap that caters to hipsters.
Quit trolling dude.
 

Ns1

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i personally hope it fails, ive always hated apple and never owned a single product of theirs. ive used their products at work, however, and hated them all. single-button mouse? retarded. iMac? retarded. overpriced crap that caters to hipsters.

so much hate.
 

brianmanahan

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Sep 2, 2006
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so much hate.

well, i did say i hated it. nothing against jobs, the man just did what sold so he was ridiculously successful and i give him mad cred. i still hate the company though and dont buy into it at all.
 

Capt Caveman

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i personally hope it fails, ive always hated apple and never owned a single product of theirs. ive used their products at work, however, and hated them all. single-button mouse? useless. iMac? ridiculously expensive. iPhone? worthless without keyboard. they basically have succeeded by pandering overpriced crap to hipsters.

Your Android and other stuff would still be in their infancy if even developed if not for that hipster company.
 
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dwell

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That's not trolling. That's stating clear facts. Android is gaining massive market share. It's not a phone, no, but, if you asked Apple who their biggest competition is on the mobile market, they'd say Android, not any particular device. There will be dozens of hot new Android devices out by years end -- and the Nexus Prime is going to snag a lot of iPhone deflectors, and you can count on that.

They've been saying that for years and yet the 2.3-year-old iPhone 3GS still outsells any single Android phone by a large margin. The 4S, 4, and 3G will continue to be the #1, 2, and 3 smartphones until the iPhone 5. Mark my words.
 

Krynj

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Quit trolling dude.

No kidding. I'm not an Apple guy. Only product of theirs I've ever owned is an iPod video. I'm a devout Android and Windows user. And even I can admit that Steve's accomplishments have changed modern technology. Even if you don't use a single Apple product, you use their competitors' -- that were based on an Apple product in order to compete.

Like their business practices or not. I've never understood the immense hatred some people hurl their way.
 

JackBurton

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and the difference between you an me is that i don't care what you think of me or my family.

you, however, apparently get a sore anus when the propieter of playskool's computer division bites it with months of warning. they have a name for this type of attachment disorder, you know.

If you are an Atheist, you just got your proof there is no God. Steve Jobs died, and a loser like you is still roaming around.
 
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ultimatebob

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They need a new salesman. The 4s presentation was extremely lacking without Steve there.

It doesn't help that the product itself wasn't all that impressive, either.

I hope that the iPhone 5 (Steve Jobs memorial edition?) is a much better product.
 
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