The "Gay Lifestyle" Myth

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zsdersw

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Yes, it's an unfortunate typo (or maybe they think it's not a typo?). It's like not spelling an insult correctly.
 

werepossum

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I'd like to see them remove tax benefits for or any other government intervention in marriage and let one consenting adult marry whichever or however many other consenting adults he or she wants. It'll never happen though.

As for homosexuality being a choice, I'm skeptical. I didn't choose to be straight, I just am. I'm wired to like boobs. Why is it so hard to believe that homosexuals are just wired differently?
Right, hard to believe, harder to care. Who cares why someone does something if it doesn't hurt me?
 

bfdd

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You think? Based on what evidence?

Animals can validly be regarded as "stupid" compared to humans, but that doesn't mean their behavior doesn't relate in some ways to our own. Animals are all driven by the same basic instincts, upon which we humans add things like much higher intelligence (which takes many forms and goes off on many tangents). The end result is something quite different from its roots, but that doesn't mean they're not related.

Well most animals are stupid and most if not all don't even know sex is for reproduction. Look I'm not trying to say homosexuality isn't natural, I just think pointing to animals and saying "see they do it too" isn't really that good of an argument.
 

zsdersw

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I just think pointing to animals and saying "see they do it too" isn't really that good of an argument.

It is if someone thinks homosexuality is a purely human condition. It also helps to disprove the notion that homosexuality is unnatural. It occurs in nature, to whatever degree, so it's perfectly natural.
 

nakedfrog

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Well most animals are stupid and most if not all don't even know sex is for reproduction. Look I'm not trying to say homosexuality isn't natural, I just think pointing to animals and saying "see they do it too" isn't really that good of an argument.

We are animals, we just figured out how to wear clothes, and have excitingly different ways of killing each other.
 

piasabird

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I could care less how you live or what you do in your spare time, any more than anyone else I know, as long as you respect other people's space and their privacy.

The real issues are when people start having sex in parks and in public restrooms. Dare I say go rent a room somewhere and have all the fun you want like any other couple should.

I am sure there are gays where I live, but you just dont see much indication of it in public.

So if a Male gay person adopts a baby, do they have a baby shower?
 

MJinZ

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I could care less how you live or what you do in your spare time, any more than anyone else I know, as long as you respect other people's space and their privacy.

The real issues are when people start having sex in parks and in public restrooms. Dare I say go rent a room somewhere and have all the fun you want like any other couple should.

I am sure there are gays where I live, but you just dont see much indication of it in public.

So if a Male gay person adopts a baby, do they have a baby shower?

What's wrong with sex in bathrooms? It can be gross, but as long as the room locks completely by itself...

Or sex in elevators? Same idea.
 

K1052

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What's wrong with sex in bathrooms? It can be gross, but as long as the room locks completely by itself...

Or sex in elevators? Same idea.

I don't want to have to wait on some couple doing the deed when I urgently have to drop the kids off at the pool.
 

bfdd

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It is if someone thinks homosexuality is a purely human condition. It also helps to disprove the notion that homosexuality is unnatural. It occurs in nature, to whatever degree, so it's perfectly natural.

Depends on what you define as homosexuality. Like I said a lot of animals are stupid and they fuck anything trying to reproduce. Homosexuality in humans imo at least is different than that in animals. I believe animals are to stupid to know wtf is going on most the time. Humans are more aware of those types of "feelings" or whatever. I don't disagree that it is natural btw.
 

bfdd

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We are animals, we just figured out how to wear clothes, and have excitingly different ways of killing each other.

Of course we're animals, that doesn't mean we haven't evolved vastly past other animals. We had to evolve to have little to no hair to figure out ho to wear clothes.

Also, I've had sex in a "public" bathroom before since when is that only limited to "gay activities?"
 

zsdersw

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Depends on what you define as homosexuality. Like I said a lot of animals are stupid and they fuck anything trying to reproduce. Homosexuality in humans imo at least is different than that in animals. I believe animals are to stupid to know wtf is going on most the time. Humans are more aware of those types of "feelings" or whatever. I don't disagree that it is natural btw.

The examples in here would seem to disprove your claim that they're just trying to reproduce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals
 

MJinZ

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I'm not pretending to know everything about homosexuality in animals because for the most part I just don't give a fuck. I just think animals, like people, like to fuck and they are less "picky."

Your thinking is fairly inconsequential.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Of course we're animals, that doesn't mean we haven't evolved vastly past other animals.
We haven't evolved "past" other animals. Evolution doesn't work that way.

We had to evolve to have little to no hair to figure out ho to wear clothes.
Also untrue. No species "has to evolve" anything.
 

werepossum

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What's wrong with sex in bathrooms? It can be gross, but as long as the room locks completely by itself...

Or sex in elevators? Same idea.
For one thing, the Republican Senators are hogging the stalls . . .
 

Greenman

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It is if someone thinks homosexuality is a purely human condition. It also helps to disprove the notion that homosexuality is unnatural. It occurs in nature, to whatever degree, so it's perfectly natural.

By that logic, sniffing someones ass when you meet them is perfectly natural, along with killing and eating your young, cannibalism and a host of other behavior that I would consider unsavory.

Back on the choice issue, if homosexuality isn't a choice, doesn't it have to be a disease or a birth defect? Is there another option?
 
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Red Dawn

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By that logic, sniffing someones ass when you meet them is perfectly natural, along with killing and eating your young, cannibalism and a host of other behavior that I would consider unsavory.

Back on the choice issue, if homosexuality isn't a choice, doesn't it have to be a disease or a birth defect? Is there another option?
I would think so, after all what straight dude in his right mind would choose to fuck another hairy assed dude?
 

bfdd

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We haven't evolved "past" other animals. Evolution doesn't work that way.


Also untrue. No species "has to evolve" anything.

Fine, inventing clothes was a byproduct of evolving to near hairless(for the most part). Also, wtf are you talking about we haven't evolved "past" other animals. Are you kidding? Don't know if you know this we are apes. You know the other apes? Yeah... they're fucking NOTHING compared to us. We evolved past them.
 

zinfamous

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Fine, inventing clothes was a byproduct of evolving to near hairless(for the most part). Also, wtf are you talking about we haven't evolved "past" other animals. Are you kidding? Don't know if you know this we are apes. You know the other apes? Yeah... they're fucking NOTHING compared to us. We evolved past them.

there is not a /facepalm large enough to adequately capture this comment.
 

MJinZ

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By that logic, sniffing someones ass when you meet them is perfectly natural, along with killing and eating your young, cannibalism and a host of other behavior that I would consider unsavory.

Back on the choice issue, if homosexuality isn't a choice, doesn't it have to be a disease or a birth defect? Is there another option?

Yes, all of those are natural types of behavior. Maybe you should reconsider how you want to use the word in the future, if you're not fond of it.

"If homosexuality isn't a choice, then doesn't it have to be a disease or birth defect? Is there another option?"

Are people serious about questions like these or has our educational system failed us so utterly that the capacity to conceive novel thought is now absent? Really? I'm a bit sickened to even dignify this sort of idiocy with an answer.
 
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