The Great Voter Purge incoming

NWRMidnight

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DOGE digs into state voter lists. Instructs DOJ to sue states that accept ballots mailed before Election Day but arrive later.

Oh look, DOGE is showing they don't understand how things work again. This all falls under state powers and their authority in how elections are conducted. If the DOJ sue, they will show they are as incompetant as the DOGE. Besides, what does this have to do with waste, fraud, and effieciency?
 
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APU_Fusion

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Oh look, DOGE is showing they don't understand how things work again. This all falls under state powers and their authority in how elections are conducted. If the DOJ due, they will show they are as incompetant as the DOGE. Besides, what does this have to do with waste, fraud, and effieciency?
I don’t think even this Supreme Court will let this fly. Pure states rights issue. If they do the blue states will begin secession discussions
 

SteveGrabowski

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Like I said last November, there will never be another free election again in the United States of America. In addition to killing off mail in voting the nazi is peeling off poor elderly voters who don't drive (so mostly brown skin people in cities) as well as women off the rolls. Fuck this country.

Voting rights groups have expressed concerns that the requirement could disenfranchise people. An estimated 9% of U.S. citizens of voting age, or 21.3 million people, do not have proof of citizenship readily available, according to a 2023 report by the Brennan Center for Justice and other groups.

There are also concerns that married women who have changed their names will encounter trouble when trying to register because their birth certificates list their maiden names. Such hiccups happened in recent town elections in New Hampshire, which has a new state law requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote.
 

Indus

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I don’t think even this Supreme Court will let this fly. Pure states rights issue. If they do the blue states will begin secession discussions

You drink too many energy drinks this evening?

The same blue states that elected Schumer, Gillibrand and Fetterman want to secede???
 

Indus

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What are you drinking.

Water currently.

Ginger Ale last night when I posted that.. because I can't believe the bunch of bend the knee politicians will ever truly represent the people's interests even when we've been so loud and clear that we don't want to live under Trump and MAGA.
 

Reflex

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Oh look, DOGE is showing they don't understand how things work again. This all falls under state powers and their authority in how elections are conducted. If the DOJ sue, they will show they are as incompetant as the DOGE. Besides, what does this have to do with waste, fraud, and effieciency?
They are showing that they know exactly how things work, actually.
 

Reflex

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You drink too many energy drinks this evening?

The same blue states that elected Schumer, Gillibrand and Fetterman want to secede???
Correct. Blue states have been running to the mythical middle since the election. There will not be any blue states to secede, and if any did they'd be quickly overpowered. The idea of a modern civil war succeeding or a red/blue divide is ridiculous. Blue urban areas can't survive without food which is largely produced in red, rural areas that hate them.

We need to hope the courts block this. If they don't democracy is basically over.
 
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APU_Fusion

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Correct. Blue states have been running to the mythical middle since the election. There will not be any blue states to secede, and if any did they'd be quickly overpowered. The idea of a modern civil war succeeding or a red/blue divide is ridiculous. Blue urban areas can't survive without food which is largely produced in red, rural areas that hate them.

We need to hope the courts block this. If they don't democracy is basically over.
so democracy is over but the blue states can’t secede because of food?

Get real, most of the red states would be broke within a year without blue state money propping them up. You think food only grows in red states?
 

APU_Fusion

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You drink too many energy drinks this evening?

The same blue states that elected Schumer, Gillibrand and Fetterman want to secede???
What are you drinking? Obviously not energy drinks. What the hell do they being elected have to do with a majority of democratic voters being purged to ensure only republican magats will win in a hypothetical future?

I also didn’t say the blue states would secede. I said they would have discussions as they would have no taxation without representaion. You know like what happened some years ago.
 

Indus

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What are you drinking? Obviously not energy drinks. What the hell do they being elected have to do with a majority of democratic voters being purged to ensure only republican magats will win in a hypothetical future?

I also didn’t say the blue states would secede. I said they would have discussions as they would have no taxation without representaion. You know like what happened some years ago.

Maybe we're having a lost in translation moment but with the current governors.. I see nothing happening.
 
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APU_Fusion

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Maybe we're having a lost in translation moment but with the current governors.. I see nothing happening.
I disagree but my point was if the voter suppression go to the point that only republicans would control all the state houses even in blue states than yes there would be discussions. There are not any now
 

Reflex

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so democracy is over but the blue states can’t secede because of food?

Get real, most of the red states would be broke within a year without blue state money propping them up. You think food only grows in red states?
?? You seem to be in this weird place where you think there would be a fight. The federal gov is controlled by fascists. They control the military and all significant levers of power. The blue states not only lack any military aside from cops who'd rather be gestapo for the administration, but they are islands in a sea of red that would be happy to subjugate them. I grew up in Oregon and spent most of my adult life in Washington. These 'blue states' are literally four cities between them. The rural areas are deeper red than much of the deep south.

Our money becomes their money. There is no war.
 

nakedfrog

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?? You seem to be in this weird place where you think there would be a fight. The federal gov is controlled by fascists. They control the military and all significant levers of power. The blue states not only lack any military aside from cops who'd rather be gestapo for the administration, but they are islands in a sea of red that would be happy to subjugate them. I grew up in Oregon and spent most of my adult life in Washington. These 'blue states' are literally four cities between them. The rural areas are deeper red than much of the deep south.

Our money becomes their money. There is no war.
Those "islands" are where most of the people live, are they not? And the "seas" mostly sparsely populated?
 

nickqt

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Those "islands" are where most of the people live, are they not? And the "seas" mostly sparsely populated?
The "leftists" who want you to give up already and accept your fate aren't concerned with anything more than convincing you to just give up already.
 

APU_Fusion

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?? You seem to be in this weird place where you think there would be a fight. The federal gov is controlled by fascists. They control the military and all significant levers of power. The blue states not only lack any military aside from cops who'd rather be gestapo for the administration, but they are islands in a sea of red that would be happy to subjugate them. I grew up in Oregon and spent most of my adult life in Washington. These 'blue states' are literally four cities between them. The rural areas are deeper red than much of the deep south.

Our money becomes their money. There is no war.
Agree to disagree. You also clearly have no understanding that the military is not made up of all MAGAs willing to attack their countrymen. You have no understanding of the economic and industrial capacity differences between blue and red states.

You grew up in Oregon? I live in Oregon. You choosing to ignore all those rural counties have 12 people in them compared to the hundreds of thousands in the blue cities and counties is laughable.
 

Reflex

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Those "islands" are where most of the people live, are they not? And the "seas" mostly sparsely populated?
I'm sorry, are you saying that the people in those cities are going to take up arms, kill all the farmers and return to work the land? Because if not they are f'd regardless.
 
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Reflex

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The "leftists" who want you to give up already and accept your fate aren't concerned with anything more than convincing you to just give up already.
No, we need to fight every inch of the way. Part of that is to not delude ourselves about the current situation.
 

Reflex

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Agree to disagree. You also clearly have no understanding that the military is not made up of all MAGAs willing to attack their countrymen. You have no understanding of the economic and industrial capacity differences between blue and red states.

You grew up in Oregon? I live in Oregon. You choosing to ignore all those rural counties have 12 people in them compared to the hundreds of thousands in the blue cities and counties is laughable.
Every country that falls to authoritarianism grapples with this. It rarely actually halts a military backed coup. Very few coups are performed entirely via mercenaries or outside powers.

As someone who grew up in Eugene, but in a far right household I can tell you now that the cities are ill equipped to handle the kind of people who will subjugate them, should it come to that. And the sooner we realize that the sooner we can get realistic about how to take power back. It won't be by doing some imaginary secession which even if 'successful' would simply create a great power that would quickly overwhelm us. It will be via local community resistance, gumming up the works of every single thing they attempt to accomplish, protecting the vulnerable with our bodies if necessary, and working hard to peel off the moderate edges while training for any physical resistance needed to finish fascism off when we get there.

It's a long, hard slog and it starts with understanding the situation.
 

Reflex

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No this is the model of Post Soviet Russia where everything was privatized and the nation was plunged into a crippling depression.
Yeah, it's corporate fascism along the lines of Francoist Spain.

Edit: I wish there was a +1 emoji for posts, thumbing up horrible but true posts does not feel right.
 

nakedfrog

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I'm sorry, are you saying that the people in those cities are going to take up arms, kill all the farmers and return to work the land? Because if not they are f'd regardless.
No, I am not. Are you saying all the farmers are going to take up arms and kill all the city folk?
 
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