This article is a joke. Where do you get this notion that conservatives reject science? I drive an automobile. I have a Heater. I use a computer. I keep my food in a refrigerator. Science is good. In the Bible John says that everything good comes from God. Science comes from God. It is just a tool for man to use.
Most of these people in the USA that compain that the USA used too much energy have a delimna. I suggest you turn off your electricity and walk to work every day if that is what you really feel. Otherwise you are a hypocirte.
Your blindness leaves me no choice. I understand the impotence of rage. One can only forgive.
Hehehehehe. There is nothing to do but laugh. 'The article is a joke' is your joke. Try to show so scientifically. Using the products brought to us by science isn't equivalent to conservative rejection of science nor is it any ticket to scientific reasoning capacity. You demonstrate what you deny.
Right clearly it is conservatives who have a problem with reason...
Is that why liberals say that corporations only care about profits, but then that they will hire men at 30% more than women to do the same work?
Is that why liberals say we should trust women to make choices about their family, but then say if we cut welfare programs babies will starve to death?
Is that why liberals say a fetus is just a ball of cells, but then advocate for welfare programs to support it like it is a child?
Is that why liberals say we cannot trust men with MBAs and PHDs who work in the finance industry, but that we should trust pregnant teenagers?
I am not sure how liberals can say conservatives have fled reason when they do not even know what it is.
You actually sound pretty angry yourself through the whole thread.
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Using science doesn't mean you reject science or that you understand science? What sort of nonsense drivel is this? How deep under the ground do you live?
Moonie, your oft-repeated posts about conservatives' defective brains makes me suspect you're building your case for the "final solution".
Jackalas, you donkey, do you give yourself your own blow jobs too? The only person deep into fantasy between you and me here is you. Of course, I would expect nothing less from somebody who imprisons children and tortures them in the night, eats out of garbage cans, and smokes weed. I hope I was as right about you as you were about me.
for conservative flight from reason.
No less wrong than you were in your OP.
If you're going to denounce us over climate science, then by all means step up and tell us what we should do. Cause you just attempted to reject much of it if you aren't among those with a "consensus" telling us snow is a thing of the past, that the computer models foretell accurate doom, which a tithe of carbon tax will prevent, or that the arctic already melted away.
So if you're not one of them, maybe you're denying science with us conservatives.
Lol at this thread. The funny thing is that it's the same people responding that responded in the countless "the problem with liberals" threads repeating the same shit and over generalizations, projections, and hate and they all validate moonbeams post!
The question I have for moonbeam is; is the mind of a conservative caused by genetics or by environment? It's similar to the homosexual argument of are they born like that or do they become like that. Or maybe it's both/either, I think I've read that you said you were once like them (conservative mentality). I ask because if they are born that way then challenging them to be more scientific in their thinking would be a much harder task.
This article is a joke. Where do you get this notion that conservatives reject science? I drive an automobile. I have a Heater. I use a computer. I keep my food in a refrigerator. Science is good. In the Bible John says that everything good comes from God. Science comes from God. It is just a tool for man to use.
Most of these people in the USA that compain that the USA used too much energy have a delimna. I suggest you turn off your electricity and walk to work every day if that is what you really feel. Otherwise you are a hypocirte.
proper conservatism is demanding evidence before beginning change.
Its limiting spending on programs until its known if they're effective.
It is not denying evidence and blocking all action based on wishful thinking.
So I think two paths opened up at that point, one that we join the oppressors and become conservative authoritarians, the enforcers of the norms our parents demanded, victim haters, if you will. The other was to side with the victims, as I have. I believe it very likely that the fears of childhood worked their wonders on our brains, depending on which road we fell down. Simply, conservatives are creatures of fear and liberals creatures of hope, and that like muscles in use, this deforms our brains in different ways. Just my opinion.
And what reasoning does the right have for banning abortion
Abortion is murder. What is so hard to understand about that?
The better question is what does worshiping the choices of pregnant teenagers have to do with reason?
Liberals and reason are like oil and water, they don't mix with each other.
It's constitutionally protected or does that only apply when it's rights you like?
However, again science disagrees with you. When you cook eggs do you say you are going to cook some chicken? Nope! Aborting fetuses before they are babies is the same thing and it's protected under the law.
Abortion is murder. What is so hard to understand about that?
The better question is what does worshiping the choices of pregnant teenagers have to do with reason?
Liberals and reason are like oil and water, they don't mix with each other.
abortion is more akin to killing in self-defense than murder.
Your other comment illustrates why women needed Roe vs Wade. You express very well what underlies the right to life movement, the subjugation and denial of rights to women and girls.
You don't seem to understand the purpose of our Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It is not to create a government that controls individuals based on "reason".
Its to allow individuals to make their own choices about their lives.
I've found that most people reject the science that poses problems for their personal agenda and sensibilities.
Conservatives reject climate change because it has unfortunate implications for business practices and profits, and personal lifestyle choices.
Theists reject evolution because it clashes with their inflated sense of human uniqueness and supernatural origins they were taught.
And then lots of people on both sides reject genetic basis for behavior and intelligence because it clashes with various things they hold dear. Maybe they're conservative and they like the idea that everyone is completely responsible for their fate in life, so they don't feel any obligation to help anyone who started at a disadvantage.
Maybe they're liberal and they don't like the notion that there are people who, no matter how much you help them, will still never reach equality or stop being criminals.
Maybe they're theist and they think God created everyone perfectly equal. Even though they know that's not true or there wouldn't be anyone born with Down syndrome or missing limbs, or born blind. So they already know equality isn't even on the table, but they like to pretend. It makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside.
They're all wrong, on all of these things.
The climate change thing, well... I wouldn't be surprised if there is some level of exaggeration by liberals about it. But I don't see how there couldn't be ANY human-influenced climate change. You can't just suddenly introduce billions of cars, factories, factory farms, etc that are putting gases into the atmosphere which, as a consequence of the laws of physics and their properties... DO INCREASE TEMPERATURE and then somehow, magically, have that not increase temperature.
Evolution isn't even up for debate. It is not only proven, it would be impossible for it not to occur.
The biggest barrier many otherwise reasonable people have is accepting the huge role genetics plays in behavior, criminality, etc. And the fact that some groups are more suited to living in stable, civilized settings than others are because of their evolutionary history. To think that the groups who have lived an agricultural lifestyle for thousands of years weren't changed genetically by doing so AT ALL when we already know they were for a fact in many areas like brain size changing after that lifestyle was adapted, disease immunities, etc... and to think that other groups that never pursued that lifestyle somehow magically are just as suited to it... is hilarious.
There have been studies showing that genetics account for as much as 70% of why a person will end up as a "life-course persistent" criminal. Leaving only 30% for nurture, violent video games and movies, access to firearms, area they were born in... whatever. Basically born to be criminals. Liberals, conservatives, theists, EVERYONE except the most die hard realists who follow the science where it goes, even if it goes somewhere uncomfortable, hate this idea and reject it. Still true.
As for abortion? I think determining when it is a human life is impossible. I think early on it's silly to call it anything worth the designation... but I don't believe in a soul or anything. Abortions may sometimes, in some cases, be sad events but... we have 7 billion people. I'd much rather see a woman who lives in poverty and already has too many kids abort than bring another future criminal moocher into the world.
Abortion is murder. What is so hard to understand about that?
That would depend on the frame of reference... Religious versus Secular. No?
The better question is what does worshiping the choices of pregnant teenagers have to do with reason?
The basis of that reasoning is important don't you think? As above, if seen from a secular pov it is what the law of the land currently is. If you argue that the law is wrong it don't change the law. What is is.
Liberals and reason are like oil and water, they don't mix with each other.
From your pov and the pov of like minded folks perhaps. But, one person's fish seems likely to be another person's foul. Our founding is based on a Secular basis with Rights that each of us has formulated by opinion of the Courts to grant competing Rights in such a manner as to recognize the Life Course necessities of the individual versus society's... It seems to me.