The GTX 780, 770, 760 ti Thread *First review leaked $700+?*

[hawtdawg]

Hmmm, if the 780 overclocks almost as well, ebaying my Titan and picking up a couple seems like a pretty good idea. I'm surprised Nvidia is releasing it so soon though, you'd figure they'd wait until fall at least before they pissed off the Titan owners.

 

[Fx1]

The 780 GTX for $499 is going to be a better option in SLI than any other setup announced.

 

[UaVaj]

given 680 2gb is hovering right at $449. no way a 780 with more vram gonna be $499.

with nvidia's current pricing structure and no competition from amd.

780 at best will it be $549. more realistic at $649.

titan le at $799. titan at $999. titan ultra at $1099.

 

[BrightCandle]

Titan is a seriously delayed product, it should have been out a year ago. The fact that 780 has come in so close is a consequence of that delay.

 

[hawtdawg]

given 680 2gb is hovering right at $449. no way a 780 with more vram gonna be $499.

with nvidia's current pricing structure and no competition from amd.

780 at best will it be $549. more realistic at $649.

titan le at $799. titan at $999. titan ultra at $1099.

649 sounds about right. Unless AMD is secretly planning on making larger Tahiti cores for the 8000 series, they have nothing that can compete with Nvidia above the 680. I see no reason they wouldn't milk that advantage for all it's worth.

 

[hawtdawg]

Titan is a seriously delayed product, it should have been out a year ago. The fact that 780 has come in so close is a consequence of that delay.

It wasn't delayed due to any reason beyond AMD not having anything that could compete with it.

 

[wand3r3r]

It wasn't delayed due to any reason beyond AMD not having anything that could compete with it.

Uh huh. Sure.

 

[hawtdawg]

Uh huh. Sure.

They had almost 20 thousand Tesla's up and running in the Titan supercomputer several months ago. You really think it took them this long to make a few video cards out of the scraps?

 

[wand3r3r]

They had almost 20 thousand Tesla's up and running in the Titan supercomputer several months ago. You really think it took them this long to make a few video cards out of the scraps?

Ok, I agree for the few months as they used them for Tesal demand.

 

[hawtdawg]

Ok, I agree for the few months as they used them for Tesal demand.

These are binned chips that were never going to be sold as Teslas, they no doubt had tons of them 8+ months ago

 

[crisium]

It seems like there is still room between the 780 and 770 (680). Maybe a 770Ti coming later? To go from 1536 to 2496 CUDA cores makes you wonder about a 2016 core part.

 

[tviceman]

It seems like there is still room between the 780 and 770 (680). Maybe a 770Ti coming later? To go from 1536 to 2496 CUDA cores makes you wonder about a 2016 core part.

1536 cores running and 32 ROP's at ~1100mhz vs. 2496 cores and 40 ROP's running at ~850mhz. There is a significant difference in shading power, but there is zero difference in ROP performance. There also may be small tweaks here and there with the (new???) gk104 chip that introduces a few percentage points of improvement over gtx680.

 

[Ajay]

Titan + Modded BIOS = 1200+ Mhz = No chance in hell for a 7970Ghz..

Now I would think a 7970Ghz @ 1300Mhz would come within spitting distance of a Stock Titan.

With the modded bios, these Titans are freaking Nasty. Not $1K nasty, but nasty..

Do you have a link on a Titan modded to 1200MHz?

 

[blackened23]

The 780 GTX for $499 is going to be a better option in SLI than any other setup announced.

I have serious doubts that a 5GB VRAM card is going to be 499$. Serious, serious doubts. In fact, i'd say impossible. But in any case, I hope it is released alongside haswell - will be a nice time to buy some new toys, since i'm planning on getting haswell.

 

[Face2Face]

Do you have a link on a Titan modded to 1200MHz?

Just check out Overclock.net's Titan owners thread for a lot of information.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1363440/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-owners-club

I have serious doubts that a 5GB VRAM card is going to be 499$. Serious, serious doubts. In fact, i'd say impossible. But in any case, I hope it is released alongside haswell - will be a nice time to buy some new toys, since i'm planning on getting haswell.

I would have to agree. I am thinking what the others have said - $649 sounds about right.

 

[Grooveriding]

Do you have a link on a Titan modded to 1200MHz?

With the BIOS mod it's not that uncommmon. One of mine will do more than 1200, 1220 or so, the other does 1180 something.

When you clock them that high it's about a 20% improvement over the standard boost clock. I didn't spend much time playing with only a single card, but I did play some Battlefield 3 multiplayer for a while using only one. I couldn't tell the difference between the single overclocked Titan and my previous 680SLI which I ran at 1200. It's really fast once you clock that high.

It seems there are only about 2 people in this thread who realize all these rumours are stemming from an article on 3D center hypothesising possible upcoming cards and what they may perform like. I don't think nvidia has any interest in getting away from selling 300mm2 dies for $500 and 500mm2 dies for $1000. I bet we see a Titan Ultra for a $1000 around Christmas time and before then 780/770/760 with a refined GK104 and a Titan LE for $650-$700.

It's also my impression that Titan and K20X are essentially using exactly the same cores with a few pro specific features disabled on Titan, but the functional SMX & core counts etc are identical. I don't know that Titans are cast-off K20Xs, so much as they are just the same GK110 cores being used for the geforce lineup. This is no different than what happened in the past as well, apart from the massive price increase this time out on 28nm.

 

[Dranoche]

Nvidia's launches of new lines have been getting closer and closer over the last few generations, with the refreshes understandably sooner than later. Even if they slowed down they're a little overdue for the 700 series.

Being a refresh I would expect the launch prices of each card to match those of the respective card they replace (680 -> 780, 670 -> 770, etc.) with the potential of a slight upward creep of $25-50 at one or two tiers based upon relative performance. The only issue is whether or not any of them are truly based off of the Titan. With the Titan being a luxury and dual-purpose item I'm not sure that the Titan itself will really see much of a price drop until AMD throws something into the mix. GPU's traditionally haven't seen much drop in retail price when their replacement line comes along, but have seen some changes when the competitor launches something.

 

[Ajay]

Just check out Overclock.net's Titan owners thread for a lot of information.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1363440/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-owners-club

I would have to agree. I am thinking what the others have said - $649 sounds about right.

TY!

With the BIOS mod it's not that uncommmon. One of mine will do more than 1200, 1220 or so, the other does 1180 something.

When you clock them that high it's about a 20% improvement over the standard boost clock. I didn't spend much time playing with only a single card, but I did play some Battlefield 3 multiplayer for a while using only one. I couldn't tell the difference between the single overclocked Titan and my previous 680SLI which I ran at 1200. It's really fast once you clock that high.

It seems there are only about 2 people in this thread who realize all these rumours are stemming from an article on 3D center hypothesising possible upcoming cards and what they may perform like. I don't think nvidia has any interest in getting away from selling 300mm2 dies for $500 and 500mm2 dies for $1000. I bet we see a Titan Ultra for a $1000 around Christmas time and before then 780/770/760 with a refined GK104 and a Titan LE for $650-$700.

It's also my impression that Titan and K20X are essentially using exactly the same cores with a few pro specific features disabled on Titan, but the functional SMX & core counts etc are identical. I don't know that Titans are cast-off K20Xs, so much as they are just the same GK110 cores being used for the geforce lineup. This is no different than what happened in the past as well, apart from the massive price increase this time out on 28nm.

Titan LE makes allot of sense if NV is getting more dies working well with 13 SMXs than they can sell into the Professional market. Also, an Ultra Titan makes sense if the GF110 has matured well on TSMC's 28nm node such that NV is getting a decent number of dies with the full 15 SMXs functional. There's probably no need for such a card in the professional/server markets because of power usages, but that's not an issue for desktops. It will be interesting and informative to see what develops between now an Christmas.

 

[Xarick]

If they 770 and 760 have the same 104 chip does that mean the compute performance is the same?

 

[3DVagabond]

If they 770 and 760 have the same 104 chip does that mean the compute performance is the same?

More than likely, yes.

 

[poohbear]

Titan + Modded BIOS = 1200+ Mhz = No chance in hell for a 7970Ghz..

Now I would think a 7970Ghz @ 1300Mhz would come within spitting distance of a Stock Titan.

With the modded bios, these Titans are freaking Nasty. Not $1K nasty, but nasty..

wait, is that a good nasty or a bad nasty?

 

[hawtdawg]

wait, is that a good nasty or a bad nasty?

look in the Heaven thread if you want to see what a Titan can do.

 

[boxleitnerb]

I thought my Titans could do 1200, too. Unfortunately, they don't. You just have to find the right games to test them with. I think 1200 is not that common - if you really want rock stable.

 

[MrK6]

So 18 months later and we have cards that might be faster than a 7970 @ 1.3GHz+. Disappointing, to say the least.

 

[Will Robinson]

It wasn't delayed due to any reason beyond AMD not having anything that could compete with it.

Oh really...so which chip magically appeared that forced them to release it