Let's start a petition to JHH to allow for unlocking of cores like the old Phenoms and 6950's. Now THAT would be how you out-do AMD's bundles. :sneaky:
If some had doubts, the GK104 (GTX660ti/670/680/760Ti/770 and others) is the new G92 (GT8800, GT9800, GTS250 and others). Good business.
there is also a new Geforce 770 based on the same GK104 die as the current 680 but in GK104-425 guise. This one is promised for the middle of May, so slightly before Computex with ~25% higher performance than the current GeForce GTX680 and around the same price.
the new GeForce GTX780 the current Titan with a few more fuses blown. This new chip is called the Titan LE and will be less than 10% faster than the GT680 for a significant price premium.
What Charlie is saying here doesn't make sense...
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/04/29/nvidia-cancels-gk11x-line-rebrands-the-current-chips-as-new/
...that would make the GTX 770, apparently 25% faster then GTX 680, a faster card than the GTX 780 (Titan LE), which according to Charlie is less than 10% faster than a GTX 680...
Perhaps he meant to compare GTX 770 to the current GTX 670, and not the GTX 680. This would make more sense, since the GTX 770 looks like it will essentially be a GTX 680. Although, even 25% faster than a GTX 670 seems a bit of a stretch IMO.
A GTX 780 based on a cut down Titan core would have to be seriously neutered for it to be less than 10% faster than a GTX 680. I also don't think anyone would buy it for more than the price of a GTX 680 if this turned out to be true.
Given that Titan is on average 47% faster then a GTX 680, I'd guesstimate that a Titan LE GTX 780 would be somewhere in the 25-30% faster range.
The 680 GTX is already bad value there is no way a 780 GTX which only matches the 7970 is going to sell at 50$ more than a 680 gtx
My take on the rumors:
GTX 780 (GK110 "lite edition") 500-550$ 20% better than the 680
GTX770 (full GK104 and some voodoo) 350-400$ 20% over the 670
GTX760Ti (Tweaked GK104 and less voodoo) 300$ 20% over 660Ti
Huh? Ppl that wanna game @ 120hz @ 1600p are 0.1% of the gaming population, & even then u can still get 2 Titans, so ur "needs" are addressed.
Edit: actually there are no monitors that do 120hz @ 1600p, so can't imagine.demand for that either.
Those of us who game at 1440p at 120hz are a niche but growing each month.
I don't care what percentage of the gaming population we represent. The fact that we exist is proof enough that the statement to which I was reacting ("there is no need for new video cards" ) is incorrect
I think you can dream on 1440p 120hz.
GPU's that can do this and max settings are a long way off.
Those overclocked monitors also are not even close to 120hz vs a true 120hz TN panel 1080p
There is probably a very good reason why no one officially supports 120hz. Because it doesnt work on IPS yet. Not properly anyway
Well there's also the GK208, and I suspect that this chip will show up wherever it can in the 700 series lineup, which would probably be 640 level and below. I'm not sure if GK107 will be discontinued (after all, the GK208 only has a 64-bit bus), but it may end up coexisting with one or more GK208 parts.I think both the 780 and 770 are going to be GK110 based (pretty sure there're enough chips that cant make it as pro cards or titan to cover this)
The GK104s will reflect their midrange status 760ti and 760 kinda like the GK106 silicon was rearranged to 650ti boost and GK107 will be discontinued.
No actual new silicon in the 700 series
Hows that
The top two GK104 600 series single-GPU cards are 256-bit, so my guess is the same will occur with the 700 series, which would mean the 760 Ti would be 256-bit.The real question is will the 760ti be 192 bit or 256bit?
if the 760ti is a just a 670 then of course it will be 256bit. really there is zero chance the 760ti will be 192bit any unless its just a straight up re badge.The real question is will the 760ti be 192 bit or 256bit?
Now it gets funny. The "780" moniker is clearly designating the card for the "mass" highend market. The price will make that placement impossible though. $549 would have been acceptable given the 5GB and the performance, but not more.
Now, say sources SweClockers to Geforce GTX 780 will not be a direct replacement for today's GTX 680, at least not in terms of pricing. The new graphics card will be considerably more expensive than its predecessor, and will probably only end up being the odd few hundred dollars for Titan, which is at position costs about 9,000 Euros including VAT.
The explanation is based in Nvidia's business decisions. In the case of Titan must partner manufacturers buy into the whole package with graphics processor, radiator and other components from Nvidia. GPU GK110 is not sold separately. This makes it economically viable to produce customized models as leftover parts, such as the reference cooler, can or may be used with any other product.