The GTX 780, 770, 760 ti Thread *First review leaked $700+?*

[tviceman]

If the gtx780 is the Titan LE with a 320-bit bus and 5 gigs of vram, and it's priced more than $599-649 then Nvidia will have lost their minds. I expected a $599 price tag, feeling that will be high relative to how much current other video cards cost, so $649 is borderline ridiculous. Anything more than that and LOL forget it.

If they go above $599, then they'll really start to ruffle the feathers of potential customers.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

$250 7970's incoming? Just in time for fixed crossfire drivers lol. 3 way Xfire here I come.

Titan was just the tip. Get ready for the shaft (gtx780) with the balls following soon after (gtx770 and gtx760Ti). We're being raped.

 

[thilanliyan]

Titan was just the tip. Get ready for the shaft (gtx780) with the balls following soon after (gtx770 and gtx760Ti). We're being raped.

It's all AMD's fault.

 

[Face2Face]

$250 7970's incoming? Just in time for fixed crossfire drivers lol. 3 way Xfire here I come.

Titan was just the tip. Get ready for the shaft (gtx780) with the balls following soon after (gtx770 and gtx760Ti). We're being raped.

LOL!! Nice way of putting it D:

 

[tviceman]

$250 7970's incoming?

Why on earth on AMD lower prices when their competition keeps raising them?

 

[sontin]

Because everyone and their mothers have Crysis 3, Bioshock Infinity, Tomb Raider and FarCry Blood Dragons. :lol:

 

[wand3r3r]

$250 7970's incoming? Just in time for fixed crossfire drivers lol. 3 way Xfire here I come.

Titan was just the tip. Get ready for the shaft (gtx780) with the balls following soon after (gtx770 and gtx760Ti). We're being raped.

That's a little graphic but sure gets the point across.

 

[sontin]

Fuad has a news about release of GTX780 and GTX770:
http://fudzilla.com/home/item/31265-geforce-gtx-780-coming-on-may-23rd

 

[omeds]

Why on earth on AMD lower prices when their competition keeps raising them?

To compete?

 

[Fx1]

Fuad has a news about release of GTX780 and GTX770:
http://fudzilla.com/home/item/31265-geforce-gtx-780-coming-on-may-23rd

AMD would likely smash a GK110 based 780 GTX.

The chip doesnt clock well and performance is OK.

I suppose the problem is that, will AMD scale up the 7970 GPU with more of what it has.

 

[boxleitnerb]

The chip doesn't clock well? Most GK110 GPUs do at least 1100 MHz which is a good 30% higher than the base clock. It's remarkable for such a large and complex chip. I suspect the GTX780 will be 10-15% faster than the 7970 GHz. But twice as expensive

 

[Fx1]

The chip doesn't clock well? Most GK110 GPUs do at least 1100 MHz which is a good 30% higher than the base clock. It's remarkable for such a large and complex chip. I suspect the GTX780 will be 10-15% faster than the 7970 GHz. But twice as expensive

The reviews i have read people are getting 100-150mhz

 

[boxleitnerb]

The reviews i have read people are getting 100-150mhz

Above boost clock, not base clock, I guess. And how high the boost actually is depends on power usage and temperature. When you allow the GPU to run free it can easily achieve about 1100 MHz. So technically speaking, GK110 clocks very well.

 

[Fx1]

Above boost clock, not base clock, I guess. And how high the boost actually is depends on power usage and temperature. When you allow the GPU to run free it can easily achieve about 1100 MHz. So technically speaking, GK110 clocks very well.

Only Nvidia owners care about boost clocks.

Boost is just a dynamic way to throttle your card.

We used to call a card that couldnt maintain its clock speed "Unstable" now they call it boost.

My 7970 runs at 1125/1700 24/7 and never above 72 degrees with fan on auto.

If i pushed voltage id probably get into the 12xx/18xx and i have seen 1300/1800 24/7 clocks on some peoples cards.

The difference is that these clocks come from moving a slider and forgetting about it. The Titan needs the right voltage, temps and modded bios and even then the 1100mhz clock is temporary. I have read many people say on the web that their boost clocks deteriorate under heavy use even with 106% TDP and nowhere near 1100mhz

 

[SirPauly]

Doesn't make any sense! One can still over-clock!

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013..._gtx_titan_overclocking_review/5#.UYOf0sqgj74

 

[omeds]

AMD would likely smash a GK110 based 780 GTX.

When and with what? Do you know something we dont?

 

[boxleitnerb]

Only Nvidia owners care about boost clocks.

Boost is just a dynamic way to throttle your card.

We used to call a card that couldnt maintain its clock speed "Unstable" now they call it boost.

My 7970 runs at 1125/1700 24/7 and never above 72 degrees with fan on auto.

If i pushed voltage id probably get into the 12xx/18xx and i have seen 1300/1800 24/7 clocks on some peoples cards.

The difference is that these clocks come from moving a slider and forgetting about it. The Titan needs the right voltage, temps and modded bios and even then the 1100mhz clock is temporary. I have read many people say on the web that their boost clocks deteriorate under heavy use even with 106% TDP and nowhere near 1100mhz

Wrong. Boost ist not throttling. You don't understand boost - there is a guaranteed base clock and everything else is a bonus. Throttling would be below base clock.

I didn't say you could always achieve the 1100 MHz with air only. I said, when you let the GPU run free, it can often do 1100 MHz. And then, there is nothing temporary about the clocks anymore. I have 130% power target and water cooling and could do 1200 MHz constantly with no throttling. The problem (and that is another issue) is, that 1200 MHz is not stable on my cards, at least with 1.2V and 1.187V which is the maximum I can give it with EVGA Precision.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I was not a fan of boost when I owned a 670.

It's amazing you guys defend boost when we all know it's crap.

Give me unlocked voltage and a slider for the clocks.

 

[hawtdawg]

Only Nvidia owners care about boost clocks.

Boost is just a dynamic way to throttle your card.

We used to call a card that couldnt maintain its clock speed "Unstable" now they call it boost.

My 7970 runs at 1125/1700 24/7 and never above 72 degrees with fan on auto.

If i pushed voltage id probably get into the 12xx/18xx and i have seen 1300/1800 24/7 clocks on some peoples cards.

The difference is that these clocks come from moving a slider and forgetting about it. The Titan needs the right voltage, temps and modded bios and even then the 1100mhz clock is temporary. I have read many people say on the web that their boost clocks deteriorate under heavy use even with 106% TDP and nowhere near 1100mhz

106% TDP is only 265 watts and is very limiting. If you vbios mod it to 300w, I guarantee you that the worst Titan sold can do 1100mhz all day long, and will have enough headroom to boost the memory by a good bit as well. The baseline EVGA model I had wouldn't budge from 1180/1800 in BF3 or FC3 with the TDP raised, and would hit 86-87C max at 60% fan speed, which is nearly silent on these things.

 

[sontin]

Boost 2.0 is alright. Much better than Boost 1.0.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

A simple vbios mod to put TDP at 300w solves pretty much any problems you've read about people having with the Titan. If you do this, even the worst cards are going to be good for a rock solid 1150mhz in just about any situation, and you'll also have plenty of TDP headroom for the memory as well. Capping at 300w allowed me to keep a stable GPU boost clock, and then throw a +700 memory boost on top of it.

And if your card dies enjoy your $1000 paperweight.

 

[hawtdawg]

And if your card dies enjoy your $1000 paperweight.

Yeah, I'm grilling steaks over here with my 85C@1.187v Titan

 

[SirPauly]

I was not a fan of boost when I owned a 670.

It's amazing you guys defend boost when we all know it's crap.

Give me unlocked voltage and a slider for the clocks.

I thought it was brilliant and efficient, desired to see this mature and evolve for both nVidia and AMD.

 

[Face2Face]

Yeah, I'm grilling steaks over here with my 85C@1.187v Titan

You sir have a beast of a card, Highest on the Heaven thread here for a single GPU.

I suppose the problem is that, will AMD scale up the 7970 GPU with more of what it has.

I have wondered this myself. Compare the specs of a 7970 to a GTX 680 and the 7970 Should be walking all over it.. Makes me wonder if there is untapped potetial in these cards OR their performance is much lower than Nvidia's per clock and shader performance is not equal as well. I know they are two different designs, but it's reminds me of the 2900XT days, but with much better performance, but not as much as you would think.

 

[Fx1]

Wrong. Boost ist not throttling. You don't understand boost - there is a guaranteed base clock and everything else is a bonus. Throttling would be below base clock.

I didn't say you could always achieve the 1100 MHz with air only. I said, when you let the GPU run free, it can often do 1100 MHz. And then, there is nothing temporary about the clocks anymore. I have 130% power target and water cooling and could do 1200 MHz constantly with no throttling. The problem (and that is another issue) is, that 1200 MHz is not stable on my cards, at least with 1.2V and 1.187V which is the maximum I can give it with EVGA Precision.

i understand what boost is. I think this went way above your head.