The Hackintosh 101 Thread

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Kaido

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Based on my original thread, I decided to make this thread to help people get into Hackintosh. This is basically a resource compilation about where to start and where to go for help. So let's get to it...

Read this first:

The Newbies FAQ to Mac OSx86

So what's the deal here?

Hackintosh, or "OSx86", is the idea of putting the Mac OS X operating system on regular PC hardware using a variety of patches. Provided you use compatible hardware, you can create a pretty stable Mac clone for a lot cheaper than a real Mac costs.

What are my options?

You can install Tiger or Leopard on a PC, with Leopard being the latest and great version of Apple's OS X operating system. I would recommend Leopard because you are guaranteed support of newer programs and because it comes with Time Machine, an automatic backup program.

What about hardware? Can I use anything?

No, not really. You have to choose parts that are either compatible with Leopard by default or that have third-party drivers and other support methods created for them. Pretty much any of the standard parts will work (DVD drives Hard drives, etc.); the two biggest "gotchas" are the motherboard and the video card. If you can find a compatible motherboard and video card, it's all downhill from there.

What are the limitations involved with Hackintosh?

Oh, tons. But there are two main issues:

First of all, you'll probably never have 100% support - there will almost always be something that doesn't work or that acts funny. Even one of the most compatible motherboards have some kind of minor issues or have something that isn't support (Serial & Parallel ports, Onboard RAID, etc.). Full support is hard to come by, at least natively. There are usually workarounds for everything, however.

Second, updates are tricky. Sometimes Apple Updates break Hackintosh installations, so you have to be careful about doing them. Be sure to disable automatic updates in the system preferences menu. Don't update out of the box without checking to see how the latest updates affect other people's Hackintosh installations.

The bottom line is, if you need a reliable machine with support for the latest apps and updates, you should probably look elsewhere. It's entirely possible to keep it up-to-date, but it's not smooth sailing - it requires a lot of upkeep. You can achieve 100% stability, and if you're happy with running apps on whatever the currently supported release is and don't mind messing around with creative ways to install future updates, then it's a pretty fun project.

If you are looking for a cheap Mac clone with a minimal amount of work and you don't want to run into problems...DO NOT DO THIS PROJECT!! It is almost guaranteed that you will have some sort of weird issue that will take you weeks to figure out. Once you do that, you can sit on your computer throne with pride over your awesome machine, but if you're not willing to do the work, don't start the project.

What do you recommend as far as hardware goes?

I basically recommend 3 things:

1. Get a compatible motherboard: This is the first biggest issue. If you can find a well-supported motherboard, that means you're not going to run into half the problems that you would iwth a new board. Currently I would recommend the DFI Lanparty for single processors (dual or quad-core) and the Tyan S2696 for dual processors (dual quad-core Xeons for 8-core madness). The Lanparty is around $150 and the Tyan is around $400-$500.

2. Get a super-compatible video card: This is the BIGGEST issue of all. If you don't get a compatible video card, you're hosed. If you can't find a driver for the video card and proof that people are using it successfully (i.e. they have posted about it and say it has no problems), then I recommend NOT buying it. There are plenty of good video cards out there. I've personally used a 7300GT, 7900GT, 8800GTS, and 8800GTX (modded into a Quadro) with 100% success. Don't mess around with this - get a compatible card!

3. Get an alternative sound card: Onboard Audio support is pretty spotty on Hackintoshes. Honestly, unless your audio is 100% supported (which is rare), just save yourself the headache and buy a $30 Griffin iMic USB sound card.

Where do I go for help?

The OSx86 Project Wiki is the place to go for compatible hardware and guides:

http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

The Insanely Mac forum is the place to go to ask questions:

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?

There is also a couple IRC servers:

irc.osx86.hu (various channels)
irc.moofspeak.net #InsanelyMac (in-browser Java Client available)

Anything else?

Nope, not really! Just be persistent and don't quit - eventually you can get a stable, working machine. If you don't like hacking stuff up and messing with computers, then this project isn't really for you - just go buy a real Mac. If you like playing with computers and software, then this is a way fun project and can save you a lot of money over a real Apple machine.

Good luck!
 
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mchammer187

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I saw your other thread last week and decided to take the plunge since i already had a Bad Axe 2 mobo

upgraded to a Q6600 and got 4 more GB's of ram.

I just finished installing all my hardware and have 10.5.1 running at the moment.


My question is I already have Vista installed on another hard drive and i'm wondering if you could recommend a guide to get dual booting working. I am not really familiar with bootcamp or EFI.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: mchammer187
I saw your other thread last week and decided to take the plunge since i already had a Bad Axe 2 mobo

upgraded to a Q6600 and got 4 more GB's of ram.

I just finished installing all my hardware and have 10.5.1 running at the moment.


My question is I already have Vista installed on another hard drive and i'm wondering if you could recommend a guide to get dual booting working. I am not really familiar with bootcamp or EFI.

The absolute easiest way is to simply install both drives and then use the BIOS to re-order which drive boots first. It takes like 10 seconds to swap them.

I've messed with dual-booting a little bit but haven't been very successful; my focus right now is on bug-fixing the BA2 and getting more familiar with editing OS X files. Once I get my system 100% then I am going to learn about dual-booting and all that in detail, I'm sure I'll update my other thread when I learn enough to be more useful in this area
 

mmohel

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I am ordering the parts for a Hackintosh soon. It is similar to the one describe on this forum. I want to use a different video card though and would appreciate your opinion and advice.

The card is: EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card.

Is the card compatible with Leopard? I thought it might be since it is the card specified on the PowerMac upgrade. If not would you recommend a similar one... in the same price range?

My wish list is at the site below:

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVe...WishListNumber=7495712

Thanks,

Michael

PS: By the way. How is iTunes handled by this machine since you have to register iTunes at Apple? Does Apple see it as a Mac or PC or at all?
 

Kaido

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Ah I just realized the Newbie FAQ in the OP was incorrect, fixed it :thumbsup:
 

superstition

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The motherboard is the most critical component, actually. If you get the right motherboard, the onboard audio will work, the ethernet, etc. You may need simple patches, but you really should get a motherboard that runs the vanilla kernel.
 

slugg

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Originally posted by: vailr
If you want a DVD-RW as close to a genuine Apple Superdrive, go with Pioneer:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16827129009

I have this same burner. Be sure to boot into windows and flash the firmware with the one found here so that it's region free and has the DVD-ROM booktype hack. This makes it so that when you burn a DVD-R, when you stick it into a DVD player, the player thinks it's a DVD-ROM (pressed, like a retail DVD) instead of a DVD-R media. Might not make a difference on most DVD players, but it certainly does on others. Just a little tweak, thats all
 

MiataPaul

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I am looking into building a system for this. I am looking at some of the various Gigabyte motherboards. Is it true that the on board RAID does not work? If so I may buy one of the cheaper ones without it.

Also can you get the 5.1 sound working, not just stereo? I want it to be part of a home theater as well as a photo editing machine.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: MiataPaul
I am looking into building a system for this. I am looking at some of the various Gigabyte motherboards. Is it true that the on board RAID does not work? If so I may buy one of the cheaper ones without it.

Also can you get the 5.1 sound working, not just stereo? I want it to be part of a home theater as well as a photo editing machine.

It all depends on the motherboard. If it has like an AC888 chip, for example, those types usually work 100%. Simplest solution is just to find a working motherboard and throw on a USB 5.1 sound card though.
 

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hey i got this board GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS4 and used a thread i found on the insanelymac forum that LTL created that got my system working. I know have a quad core Intel running 8 gig of ram on 10.5.2 and EVERYTHING works. 8800GTX, onboard LAN, Sound, Sleep, Shutdown, Restart and everything else I have tried works.
 

Phobic9

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The only thing I can't get working completely on my Aopen Mini PC is the video card. It uses an Intel GMA950 which is exactly what the Mac Mini uses but I can't get the DVI port to detect any monitors. If I use a DVI to VGA adapter the monitor works fine but I have to use a utility called Switchres X to get the correct res. I've been at this for about 2 weeks now and I'm pretty close to calling it quits. This is the only problem I'm having.
 

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I have a MSI P965 Platinum, E6600, 4GB DDR2, 8800GT running 10.5.2 and bios dual booting XP. Works great, I've been running x86 for years now, when I'm in between real Macs.
 

roastin nugs

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Kaido, im curious what success you had installing on the DFI Lanparty DK P35-T2RS? What method did you use?
 

roastin nugs

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update: posting from leo 10.5.2 installed from leo4all dvd. didnt select any extra drivers when installing. installed video after with nvinstaller v.41 for my 8800GT 512. resolution changes work great. reboot/shutdown work. lan worked after install. havent tested time machine. weird thing on wake from sleep machine like locks up and i have to manually reboot. still playing with other stuff. havent got sound working as of yet
 

boomhower

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I really want to do this but there is one deal breaker, my keyboard and mouse combo. I use a MX5000 set and from what I have been able to find there is no way to make it work. Other than that I would go for it. I know I would need to swap video cards and get a PCI ethernet card but neither of those is a big deal. But a wireless kb/mouse is a must have and I have yet to find a mouse that even comes close to this.
 

0roo0roo

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i was going to then i realized i had a silicon image pci ide adaptor card running some of my drives. that would freak out the osx i bet. its too bad since i have an ecs 945 intel chipset board which is apparently compatible with these osx thingies
 

Tyranicus

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Originally posted by: boomhower
I really want to do this but there is one deal breaker, my keyboard and mouse combo. I use a MX5000 set and from what I have been able to find there is no way to make it work. Other than that I would go for it. I know I would need to swap video cards and get a PCI ethernet card but neither of those is a big deal. But a wireless kb/mouse is a must have and I have yet to find a mouse that even comes close to this.

Why wouldn't your mouse and keyboard work? Any USB mouse and keyboard should work.
 

boomhower

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It is bluetooth. The set needs software to pair them with the dongle and of lesser importance to have all the extra mouse buttons and key assignments work.
 

dclive

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Originally posted by: boomhower
I really want to do this but there is one deal breaker, my keyboard and mouse combo. I use a MX5000 set and from what I have been able to find there is no way to make it work. Other than that I would go for it. I know I would need to swap video cards and get a PCI ethernet card but neither of those is a big deal. But a wireless kb/mouse is a must have and I have yet to find a mouse that even comes close to this.

Says it works here:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=196650


 

CrackRabbit

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Just curious if anyone here had created a working "Hackbook Pro"?
I've been doing a bit of reading and it looks like the Dell Vostro 1500 would be a good inexpensive base, but other suggestions would be appreciated.
 

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Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Just curious if anyone here had created a working "Hackbook Pro"?
I've been doing a bit of reading and it looks like the Dell Vostro 1500 would be a good inexpensive base, but other suggestions would be appreciated.

I wonder how the trackpad and keyboard will be. One of the things that will keep me using Mac laptops (in addition to the fact that I greatly prefer OS X) is that their keyboards and trackpads are so much better than any windows machine out there. So, if I had to put up with a crappy Dell trackpad in OS X, I think I would pull my hair out
 

Tyranicus

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Originally posted by: boomhower
It is bluetooth. The set needs software to pair them with the dongle and of lesser importance to have all the extra mouse buttons and key assignments work.

Logitech actually has pretty good support for OS X. I know for a fact they have software for configuring the extra buttons because I've customized all the buttons on my MX400 mouse. It would really surprise me if they didn't have Bluetooth configuration software for OS X as well.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: Tyranicus
Originally posted by: boomhower
It is bluetooth. The set needs software to pair them with the dongle and of lesser importance to have all the extra mouse buttons and key assignments work.

Logitech actually has pretty good support for OS X. I know for a fact they have software for configuring the extra buttons because I've customized all the buttons on my MX400 mouse. It would really surprise me if they didn't have Bluetooth configuration software for OS X as well.

If not, SteerMouse or ControllerMate would do the trick. You can pretty much use any mouse with SteerMouse. In fact, I don't like the stock OS X driver, so I install SteerMouse on all my Mac machines because I prefer the way the cursor handles!
 
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