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KeithTalent

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these later replies have really clued me in to why this is popular.

it's an 'intellectual' movie for complete morons.

Obviously not, or it would have been tailor-made for you.

KT
 

OutHouse

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i watched it over the weekend and in my opinion for the subject its a great movie. what you saw is pretty much what life is like in Iraq for a EOD grunt. I thought they developed the main character very well.

the only scene that that i thought could have been cut was after the tanker bomb goes off and James splits his guys up to go down alleys alone and one of them damn near becomes a prisoner. Sorry but Sgt James would have been private James after doing something that reckless and necessary .

I go to movies to be entertained and this one did entertain me.
 
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Arkaign

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The sniping section was pretty dumb. A non-sniper just grabs a Barret and hits a moving target half a mile a way. And the insurgent sniper apparently can't make the exact same shot he made a minute ago that killed the British guy who was in the exact same spot.

Fwiw :

(1)- We don't know the background of the 'non-sniper', but anyone who's spent a lot of quality time with a rifle and a good many weekends at the range is capable of some pretty decent shots.

(2)- When you're shooting at the very edge of you and your weapon's range, it's pretty hard to put the same shot into the same spot over and over. You have a spread.
 

brblx

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Exactly. And then the movie shows the world we live in (the grocery scene) which is the exact opposite. The main character has nerves of steel to the point that nothing can give him the rush he needs to feel alive besides disarming an IED in Iraq. Wasnt the main point of the movie to show that he is an adrenaline junky constantly in search of his next rush? Not only that but it also showed that wide range of characters in the military - not everyone is a crazy adrenaline junky.

except for the fact that SOLDIERS DON'T DISARM BOMBS IN IRAQ.

they might as well make a movie about a mobile brain surgery unit, where they poke around in people's skulls while they get shot at.

if you want something with no grounding in reality, go watch cartoons.
 

brblx

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lol, yes, i said EOD doesn't exist.

go watch your puerile cinematic slop, simpleton.

edit: in case it's not clear, go sit an EOD member in front of this movie and see what they say. i'm not going to bother explaining precisely why you have no idea what you're talking about, and would rather you get mocked by someone with a little more clout in this area.
 
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KeithTalent

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lol, yes, i said EOD doesn't exist.

go watch your puerile cinematic slop, simpleton.

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about and you just lash out with infantile insults yet we are the simpletons. I see. :hmm:

KT
 
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Arkaign

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lol, yes, i said EOD doesn't exist.

go watch your puerile cinematic slop, simpleton.

I don't know what you're smoking, but either interpretation of what you said is incorrect.

EOD does indeed have to disarm bombs when they are in locations where they cannot be safely detonated on-site, and moving them is too risky.

Perhaps it's not as commonplace as the film makes it out to be, as on-site remote detonation is the preferred method, but to say it doesn't happen, and that soldiers don't have to do it, is a bit obtuse.

I don't know what your hard-on for this movie is, I thought it was pretty decent, and there are others I'm not that fond of, but I'm not starting threads and flaming people over it.

Calling people morons and simpletons isn't going to win you any friends, and given that this isn't P&N, is pretty much the path to the ban stick when you talk smack back to the mods.
 

brblx

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ooh, i'm 'talking smack' to the mods by saying the exact same things they've said to me. he can go ban himself, if he wants to make a big deal about it.

my 'hard-on for this movie' (whatever sense that statement makes) is due to the fact that cinema in this country has becomes a joke, a two hour bit of escapism where morons can turn their pea-sized brains off.

also, please, since you're an EOD expert, go ask some EOD guys how many blasting caps they've dug out of bombs while praying someone didn't blow them up. no. grounding. in. reality. sorry, but that's a requirement for anything that's not a superhero movie (and to be fair, movies like spiderman and batman made more effort to be coherent and logical than this pile of trash).

by saying this movie is good, you're rewarding the rampant retardation of everyone associated with its making. quit it.
 
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dougp

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ooh, i'm 'talking smack' to the mods by saying the exact same things they've said to me. he can go ban himself, if he wants to make a big deal about it.

my 'hard-on for this movie' (whatever sense that statement makes) is due to the fact that cinema in this country has becomes a joke, a two hour bit of escapism where morons can turn their pea-sized brains off.

also, please, since you're an EOD expert, go ask some EOD guys how many blasting caps they've dug out of bombs while praying someone didn't blow them up. no. grounding. in. reality. sorry, but that's a requirement for anything that's not a superhero movie (and to be fair, movies like spiderman and batman made more effort to coherent an logical than this pile of trash).

I'll refer you to what you said:

you couldn't buy a clue, dude.

The writer of the movie has far more experience than you do, considering he spent a considerable amount of time with an EOD unit. Unless, of course, you'd like to offer up your background, I'd suggest you quit acting like you know exactly what an EOD member goes through.
 

Arkaign

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? Besides a documentary, name a war movie with 100% realism.

Your criticisms could apply to any film. This one really wasn't an action film or a political film so much as a character study. In my opinion it was a good one.

It's fine that you don't like it, I'm not gonna insult you just because you don't like it. If this is how you are about everything in life I don't know how you get through the day.
 

surfsatwerk

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ooh, i'm 'talking smack' to the mods by saying the exact same things they've said to me. he can go ban himself, if he wants to make a big deal about it.

my 'hard-on for this movie' (whatever sense that statement makes) is due to the fact that cinema in this country has becomes a joke, a two hour bit of escapism where morons can turn their pea-sized brains off.

also, please, since you're an EOD expert, go ask some EOD guys how many blasting caps they've dug out of bombs while praying someone didn't blow them up. no. grounding. in. reality. sorry, but that's a requirement for anything that's not a superhero movie (and to be fair, movies like spiderman and batman made more effort to be coherent and logical than this pile of trash).

by saying this movie is good, you're rewarding the rampant retardation of everyone associated with its making. quit it.

I think you've spent too much time alone with your thoughts in the Fart Locker.
 

KeithTalent

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I don't know, I was talking to my cousin at Christmas and he has done two tours (maybe three?) in Iraq and I think at least one in Afganhistan and he said the film felt pretty realistic overall. He said he could easily pick it apart, but for a Hollywood war movie it was well done and was the best fictional Iraq film he had seen to date.

I have to say I would go with his opinion over anyone else's here.

KT
 

BeauJangles

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except for the fact that SOLDIERS DON'T DISARM BOMBS IN IRAQ.

they might as well make a movie about a mobile brain surgery unit, where they poke around in people's skulls while they get shot at.

if you want something with no grounding in reality, go watch cartoons.

Quote from an article about the guy who wrote the movie:

He should know: in 2004, he cut his way through a forest of red tape to be accepted as an embedded journalist with the EOD – the crack bomb disposal unit – in Baghdad, where he spent two weeks. “It was eye-opening to see the tidal wave of bombs erupting all over the city and the everyday courage and professionalism of the people trying to deal with it,” Boal, 36, says with dry understatement. “The EODs had become the central tactic of the insurgency and were thrust into a role that they had never played before in any other war. It was an incredibly lethal, unpredictable environment, between the bombs and the gunfire. Not to mention the kidnappings and executions. Journalists were a high-value target for propaganda reasons, like Danny Pearl [murdered in Pakistan in 2002, as dramatised in Michael Winterbottom’s A Mighty Heart] and Michael Kelly [killed in Iraq in 2003]. It was difficult to quantify the threat when you don’t speak the language and the enemy is not wearing a uniform or engaging in traditional warfare but using hit-and-run ambush tactics. I tried to capture all this in The Hurt Locker.”

I guess he doesn't know what he's talking about, huh?

I also appreciate your comment about The Hurt Locker being an intellectual movie for idiots. Do us a favor and save the holier-than-tho idiocy for some other forum. If you have an opinion, try expressing it without being an asshole.
 

Arkaign

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I don't know, I was talking to my cousin at Christmas and he has done two tours (maybe three?) in Iraq and I think at least one in Afganhistan and he said the film felt pretty realistic overall. He said he could easily pick it apart, but for a Hollywood war movie it was well done and was the best fictional Iraq film he had seen to date.

I have to say I would go with his opinion over anyone else's here.

KT

ditto my best friend, who's USAF (been serving since '90!). He spends more time than his family would like at Balad Air Base, and he said pretty much the same thing. It does a decent job at giving a soldier's viewpoint and life, isn't cartoonishly crazy, but does take a good bit of dramatic license to make it more interesting. Any one of those situations in the film by themselves would be pretty rare to happen in real life, having them all happen in the same movie is just hollywood.

He said that hands-down the most difficult thing to get across about being over there is the combination of long periods of waiting for something to happen, and the anxiety when traveling around. Inevitably something pops off around you eventually, be it 4 hours, 4 days, or 4 weeks later. As there really isn't a 'front line' so to speak, you can never fully let your guard down. Most of the guys deal with it really well, but in others it breaks them down a bit.

At least things are drawing down, and it's not the murderous muck that it was in '06.
 

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ooh, i'm 'talking smack' to the mods by saying the exact same things they've said to me. he can go ban himself, if he wants to make a big deal about it.

my 'hard-on for this movie' (whatever sense that statement makes) is due to the fact that cinema in this country has becomes a joke, a two hour bit of escapism where morons can turn their pea-sized brains off.

When has film been anything else? Is not its main purpose to entertain and inform.
Define Entertain: to hold the attention of pleasantly or agreeably; divert; amuse. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entertain

What do you go to a film expecting it to be if not entertainment? If it wasnt for the fact that its an "escapism" nobody would go to them. I dont understand your point.
 

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ooh, i'm 'talking smack' to the mods by saying the exact same things they've said to me. he can go ban himself, if he wants to make a big deal about it.

You can talk to mods the same way you'd talk to anyone else as long as you're talking to them as a member and not a mod (that is, if you don't reference their moderator status then they're like anyone else).

Personal insults are not allowed in any forum, but that rule usually isn't enforced.
 

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my 'hard-on for this movie' (whatever sense that statement makes) is due to the fact that cinema in this country has becomes a joke, a two hour bit of escapism where morons can turn their pea-sized brains off.

Give me documentaries or give me death?

I guess it would have been better if I had watched an EOD team wait for a call for 100 minutes then take 10 minutes to drive to the bomb and then defuse it. I really would've learned so much more about a war I will never see nor experience in person.
 

Arkaign

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You can talk to mods the same way you'd talk to anyone else as long as you're talking to them as a member and not a mod (that is, if you don't reference their moderator status then they're like anyone else).

Personal insults are not allowed in any forum, but that rule usually isn't enforced.

Yeah, I was kinda referencing the general attitude of someone who's like 'fuck you moron!' to everyone, eventually doing that to a mod and getting punted for generally being a cock.
 

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While I liked the movie in general, I know it certainly had its inaccuracies in terms of depicting the code of military conduct.

But I enjoyed it more than Avatar and think it more deserving than Avatar for certain awards.

I hear HBO's "Generation Kill" series is an ever depiction of such combat.
 

slayer202

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I thought it was a great movie. I thought it was intellectually deeper than you give it credit for. Like a previous poster referred to the scene where he is in the grocery cereal aisle. The scene where they are getting drunk and beating the piss out of each other shows the wildness and built up aggression the troops are most definitely going through. Then when the guy goes to sleep he asks the other soldier if he thinks he has what it takes to put the suit on. At that moment I thought about it and that question made me think of what kind of nerves of steel it takes to really do something like that. The hurt locker is the first realistic portrayal of the horror that goes on out there and for that alone deserves the praise it's getting.

There were a couple decent scenes, but the rest of them that made zero sense ruined it all.

I thought it was great. I can see not liking the film, but calling it "stupid" or "terribad" is silly. It is very well put together, shot well, and has some interesting, well written scenes, if nothing else.

KT

Maybe it had some nice camera work, but the movie was BAD. The only scene I really liked was when the shot in the leg guy was in the helicopter telling off James. Nothing else impressed me at all. It was so dumb that it did not seem at all real so there was no feeling for the characters. What was I supposed to feel? Sad because war is bad? Didn't happen because the story was wack

Fwiw :

(1)- We don't know the background of the 'non-sniper', but anyone who's spent a lot of quality time with a rifle and a good many weekends at the range is capable of some pretty decent shots.

(2)- When you're shooting at the very edge of you and your weapon's range, it's pretty hard to put the same shot into the same spot over and over. You have a spread.

this scene was dumb...the group was in the middle of nowhere, and suddenly bullets started flying every which way. and then we see it is one sniper? and then you can only see the building where the shots are coming from from a dune while everyone else is safe where they were just getting shot at? and then the bad guys fire one or two shots the rest of the time while the good guys shoot and miss for a few hours?

I don't know how anyone took this movie seriously. I'm sorry, but a message about war isn't enough to carry a movie. movies are supposed to entertain and/or send a meaningful message. This failed to do either, just like crash, but people like it because they think they are unamerican if they dont. sad
 
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