The Hurt Locker...are you kidding me?

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pontifex

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i think the crux of the issue is that anthony swofford was not a worthless dumbass who penned a load of fictional, nonsensical horseshit, despite having 'experience' (unlike that dipshit mark boal). and sam mendes has more directorial talent in his left testicle than katherine bigelow could ever hope to achieve.

jarhead was also 'not a war movie.' the book and the movie both were about the anticipation of a war that never really came. hurt locker was just about how soldiers are retarded adrenaline junkies incapable of making the simplest decisions (a view i don't particularly appreciate).

wait, what? what part of the movie made you think that's what it was about?
 

Imp

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My only issue is the lack of realism. EOD's or the like don't operate like that.

Other then that, it was pretty good. It's all about tension during the scenes, and I thought they did a great job of that.

Okay, one more issue. They made the British SAS (Or whatever they were) look like newb's.

-edit--Normally I give a free pass on realism. What I mean is, I try and put myself as not being a military buff. This film probably struck a ton of people that don't know much about the military as being realistic.
But I couldn't give this one a free pass, because one of my ex-roommates was EOD, and hearing his experience was too much of a factor.

Think those were mercs. But ya, even still, pretty stupid, especially getting on the .50 and staying in the open when there's clearly a competent sniper around.

I have an uncanny ablity to suspend belief and just be along for the ride unless it's bltantly stupid on a subject I know about (e.g. Battle of the Bulge).
 

foghorn67

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Think those were mercs. But ya, even still, pretty stupid, especially getting on the .50 and staying in the open when there's clearly a competent sniper around.

I have an uncanny ablity to suspend belief and just be along for the ride unless it's bltantly stupid on a subject I know about (e.g. Battle of the Bulge).
Effin sweet post count. If you reply to this, you'll ruin it.
 

roguerower

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I thought it effectively showed how some individuals get addicted to combat and when they cycle back home they find themselves "bored" by regular life because they aren't getting shot at. The only way to fix that boredom is to sign up for another tour. Just like becoming an adrenaline junkie.

It was so-so. Not that great (don't see how it got all the hype or awards), but not horrible like the OP thinks.
 
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irishScott

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So the list of fun and/or great movies (universally acknowledged as such) that most on AT think are either overrated or flat out bad.

1. The Dark Knight
2. Iron Man II
3. The Hurt Locker

and probably many more I haven't seen threads about.

As for the thread, Hurt Locker was awesome. Basically the Apocalypse Now of Iraq IMHO. They got almost every specific military detail wrong from what I'm hearing, but that wasn't the point of the movie. The intriguing part for me was the psychology of the characters. Bottom line this is a deep movie, sorry if you were expecting Black Hawk Down (another great movie, but more about the actual situation than anything else).
 

grrl

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I just watched The Hurt Locker last week and felt it was just okay. I think it portrayed some of the realities of combat well, but the sniper scene and the one with the guy running through the streets of Baghdad at night were pretty stupid. The whole merc scene wasn't even necessary IMO.
 
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I judged the movie based on its acting, writing, pacing and atmosphere. I thought it excelled in all those areas, military fail notwithstanding. Having said that, it was a weak year for Hollywood considering its biggest competitor was that PoS Avatar. Any other year and The Hurt Locker would be one of those movies that gets 4-6 noms but no wins. It's been a few months and I can't quite remember specifics but I remember being extremely satisfied with the picture. Decent resolution, strong lead character and made its point.

Short version: deserved nomination, won on account of James Cameron dropping a turd in wondrous 3D.
 

Red Dawn

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People like this movie? What a piece of garbage. It is pretty much this year's version of Crash, but not even as good as that trash.

I don't see why there is even hype about this? Because it is war? The movie was boring, and the plot was friggin terrible. It tried to be some kind of realistic drama that made you think, but the entire thing was completely ridiculous and no way believable.

Jeremy Renner was very average. The other two guys were much better but it didn't matter.

I kept thinking "ok, this is the point in the movie where something is actually going to happen" but it never did. The suspense was very weak. Spoiler: "Oh shit, they kidnapped the the guy in the alley. Oh, they shot him and got him back 15 seconds later."

Can someone explain what the appeal of this movie is? Don't give me some bullshit about emotion and war, because this movie did not portray anything deep. Same goes for "well you're the only one". I don't care if someone else liked it, because it sucked.
I thought it was a real good movie, a hell of a lot better than Inglorious Bastards (what a piece of shit) and a better story than Avatar though I enjoyed Avatar more.
 

Red Dawn

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Crash was complete and utter shit. It only received accolades to appease Hollywood's white guilt.
I watched it again last night, thought it was an excellent movie. It was about a lot more than "White" guilt, it was a great story about the human condition.
 

dwell

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I watched it again last night, thought it was an excellent movie. It was about a lot more than "White" guilt, it was a great story about the human condition.

It was contrived bullshit to make it seem like *everybody* is a closet racist. It was so ham-fisted in its approach that it was completely laughable.

The dialog was as bad as this...

WHITE GUY: I am white. I harbor no racial prejudice whatsoever. In fact, my roomate in college was black.

BLACK GUY: Excuse me sir, do you happen to have the time?

WHITE GUY: Oh nose, a negro! Don't rob me! Take my watch! Please!

BLACK GUY: WTF? Cracker-ass-cracker. Why you think I'm gonna rob you?

INDIAN STORE OWNER: Hey you two! Keep it down.

WHITE GUY & BLACK GUY: STFU Bin Laden!
 

Red Dawn

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It was contrived bullshit to make it seem like *everybody* is a closet racist. It was so ham-fisted in its approach that it was completely laughable.

The dialog was as bad as this...

WHITE GUY: I am white. I harbor no racial prejudice whatsoever. In fact, my roomate in college was black.

BLACK GUY: Excuse me sir, do you happen to have the time?

WHITE GUY: Oh nose, a negro! Don't rob me! Take my watch! Please!

BLACK GUY: WTF? Cracker-ass-cracker. Why you think I'm gonna rob you?

INDIAN STORE OWNER: Hey you two! Keep it down.

WHITE GUY & BLACK GUY: STFU Bin Laden!
Well if that's all you got out of it I'm not surprised you didn't like it.
 

dwell

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Well if that's all you got out of it I'm not surprised you didn't like it.

A lot of people saw through it.

Worst Movie of the Decade: ‘Crash’

It’s been called a “feel-good” racism movie – one that leads people to believe they’re on the right side of racism, when in fact they’re just having their buttons pushed and their preconceived notions re-affirmed.

Worst Movie Of The Decade

With that said, I don't think there's a single human being in Crash. Instead you have arguments and propaganda violently bumping into each other, impressed with their own quirkiness. ("Hey look, I'm a black carjacker who resents being stereotyped.") But more than a bad film, Crash, which won an Oscar (!), is the apotheosis of a kind of unthinking, incurious, nihilistic, multiculturalism. To be blunt, nothing tempers my extremism more than watching a fellow liberal exhort the virtues of Crash.


Worst Movie of the 00's?


The film goes about making this very dubious point in the most ham-fisted ways imaginable. The bitter, racist white cop played by Matt Dillon gets into an argument with a black insurance company employee and proceeds to tell her that his dad helped black people and calls her a lazy affirmative action hire. (This is how almost all of the interactions in the movie play out.) Later he pulls over a black TV exec (Terrance Howard) and his wife (Thandie Newton) who are driving home from some function. It’s made clear that he pulled them over because Howard is a black man driving a fancy car.
 
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what specifically made you think that?

Are you being serious? Are you going to ask what made me think they drove in Humvees and wore bomb protection armor next? That is how obvious what you seem to be asking is.

It was contrived bullshit to make it seem like *everybody* is a closet racist. It was so ham-fisted in its approach that it was completely laughable.

The dialog was as bad as this...

WHITE GUY: I am white. I harbor no racial prejudice whatsoever. In fact, my roomate in college was black.

BLACK GUY: Excuse me sir, do you happen to have the time?

WHITE GUY: Oh nose, a negro! Don't rob me! Take my watch! Please!

BLACK GUY: WTF? Cracker-ass-cracker. Why you think I'm gonna rob you?

INDIAN STORE OWNER: Hey you two! Keep it down.

WHITE GUY & BLACK GUY: STFU Bin Laden!

Haha. Yeah, I don't like it for that reason. It has no subtlety at all. The situations were terrible, and of course its yet another let's spin a bunch of characters' stories together. I guess they thought that would trick people so that they would be dumbfounded when they were hit with the message. Wow, its one of the people from earlier and look they're not doing what you think they would based on what you saw them do before. That is crazy!

Well if that's all you got out of it I'm not surprised you didn't like it.

Oh, you mean, you shouldn't go crazy after a racist police officer molests your girlfriend because he'll save her later and suddenly you'll all be changed? Definitely also trust the other police officer who watched this happen and didn't do anything about it.
 

Red Dawn

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Ok, Red Dawn. You seem like a smart guy. Can you explain to me what was so good about and what I have seemed to missed?

I don't know if I can or not but I do know that I am not going to take the time to even bother trying. It's not as if it's important to me whether you or anybody else agrees with me regarding the movie. All I know is that I really enjoyed it, especially seeing it for the second time and that's all that's really important to me.

I honestly don't feel you are an idiot for not liking it, just for trying to convince me that I shouldn't have.
 

pontifex

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Are you being serious? Are you going to ask what made me think they drove in Humvees and wore bomb protection armor next? That is how obvious what you seem to be asking is.

ok, so i assume you have no reason then, and you're just being a fucktard.
 
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