The Hurt Locker...are you kidding me?

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slayer202

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Look, movies are supposed to entertain. Sometimes they are meant to spread a message, but as important as that message is, you still need to be entertaining. That is what makes a good movie. Not the message, not the acting, not the film work or editing.

All those aspects can be great but you can still end up with a shit movie...All those things help in making a good movie, but in the end, the story is a big part. The Hurt Locker could have had all the individual parts to make a great movie, but the every scenario was so insanely unbelievable and stupid it just made for a bad movie IMO.

In Crash, they didn't really have anything going for them, that movie just sucked...
 

Red Dawn

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Look, movies are supposed to entertain. Sometimes they are meant to spread a message, but as important as that message is, you still need to be entertaining. That is what makes a good movie. Not the message, not the acting, not the film work or editing.

All those aspects can be great but you can still end up with a shit movie...All those things help in making a good movie, but in the end, the story is a big part. The Hurt Locker could have had all the individual parts to make a great movie, but the every scenario was so insanely unbelievable and stupid it just made for a bad movie IMO.

In Crash, they didn't really have anything going for them, that movie just sucked...
Lucky for me I'm so easily entertained. Must suck to be so overly critical regarding Movies where ones that most consider good aren't enjoyable for you. Of course I'm not immune to that, a lot of people enjoyed Inglorious Bastards and I thought it was one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen and I usually like Brad Pitt movies (Legends of the Fall, Benjamen Button, etc)
 

slayer202

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Lucky for me I'm so easily entertained. Must suck to be so overly critical regarding Movies where ones that most consider good aren't enjoyable for you. Of course I'm not immune to that, a lot of people enjoyed Inglorious Bastards and I thought it was one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen and I usually like Brad Pitt movies (Legends of the Fall, Benjamen Button, etc)

for a supposed best movie, a lot of people didn't like hurt locker, and even more didn't like crash. I'm not overly critical, but I'm not an idiot either. the people that like those kinds of movies are usually the people who buy apple products
 

Red Dawn

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for a supposed best movie, a lot of people didn't like hurt locker, and even more didn't like crash. I'm not overly critical, but I'm not an idiot either. the people that like those kinds of movies are usually the people who buy apple products
Well I do have an Ipod around here somewhere
 

Paladin3

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I used to be an uppity film viewer, with an in-depth analysis and critical opinion on everything I watched, until I realized it was just hindering my enjoyment of movies. I no longer leave the theater pissed off if viewing the movie isn't a life changing experience.
 

KeithTalent

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I liked The Hurt Locker and it felt believable enough within the world they created. Unless I am watching a documentary (heck, sometimes even then) I do not expect hyperrealism, I expect something believeable within the confines of the world they set up and I felt I got that here.

I'm no expert on war and I have no desire to be one, but I was convinced by the writing and performances. Of course there is going to be some dramatic license taken, it is a movie after all.

KT
 

slayer202

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I liked The Hurt Locker and it felt believable enough within the world they created. Unless I am watching a documentary (heck, sometimes even then) I do not expect hyperrealism, I expect something believeable within the confines of the world they set up and I felt I got that here.

I'm no expert on war and I have no desire to be one, but I was convinced by the writing and performances. Of course there is going to be some dramatic license taken, it is a movie after all.

KT

thats fair enough. the actual plot was what killed it for me, but if I looked last that, it was a fine movie. but it seemed, and many people believe that it showed a realistic portrayal of the grittyness of the war etc etc, which it didn't do IMO.
 

StageLeft

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Crash was ok, not great, would not watch twice.

Hurt locker was realistic (mostly, except for that guy was far too reckless). Lack of realism wasn't the problem, it just wasn't interesting enough to watch twice. It sure wasn't saving private ryan.
 

brxndxn

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I liked it.. But I'd only say it was a 3 star movie..

Definitely did not deserve to win shit over Avatar.. Best picture? Hilarious...
 

Imp

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for a supposed best movie, a lot of people didn't like hurt locker, and even more didn't like crash. I'm not overly critical, but I'm not an idiot either. the people that like those kinds of movies are usually the people who buy apple products

Once something gets popular, it brings out the hate and the haters. Slumdog Millionaire won last year, and it got shit from everyone, even though it was such a simple movie to like.

I don't think Gladiator, Shakespeare in Love, and whatever the hell won the previous years were that good either.
 

Alone

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In my opinion (military) it was a great movie. People seem to think that there's constant action overseas, or that close range firefights are dramatic. In reality, shit happens real fast, and you can sit there expecting things to happen but nothing really does.

Saying that the plot sucked because nothing really happens basically tells me that you missed the point.

I thought the grocery store scene was amazing. But maybe that's because I can understand/relate to the feeling.
 

slayer202

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Once something gets popular, it brings out the hate and the haters. Slumdog Millionaire won last year, and it got shit from everyone, even though it was such a simple movie to like.

I don't think Gladiator, Shakespeare in Love, and whatever the hell won the previous years were that good either.

I haven't heard any hating on slumdog millionaire. I've never seen it but I don't think I've heard from anyone that they didn't like it.

I'll argue your "hate the popular" view though. I think why that may seem the case is because when people watch a shitty movie and it sucks, they don't bitch about it. But when people watch a movie that is supposed to be great, and it sucks, there is a stronger backlash.

I really don't understand how people can say that the movie was realistic. The bomb guy ignoring what everyone is telling him, taking off his gear, going rogue into the streets trying to track down a kid, bomb experts going off randomly into the night to try to find the bombers...not going to even bother with the sniping scene. come on now. if the movie wasn't trying to play itself as some realstic movie, based on on scene reporters etc etc, the crazy shit would be ok. but don't tell me that the movie is realistic...
 

MegaWorks

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People thought I was nuts when I said that Avatar sucked big time! It's the hype don't let it get in to you!
 

Red Dawn

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People thought I was nuts when I said that Avatar sucked big time! It's the hype don't let it get in to you!
Where did you get the impression that people thought you were nuts? To think that your opinion would have to matter.
 

SonnyDaze

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Thought it was so-so, okay at best. Acting was okay, plot was kind of suspenseful but ended up being a bit of a let down.
 

Dominato3r

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Lol Slumdog was awesome. When the main character ran out of the public washroom covered in crap, i almost barfed out all the popcorn i had.
 

Ballatician

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Just saw Hurt Locker. I didn't think it was that great. I thought it was interesting, got to see a different side of things. I liked that we got a peek into the emotional bonds between soldiers, their work and the people they work with but mostly its just a reminder that war is an ugly thing.

I did not see Avatar.

I did see Inglorious Basterds and loved it, it was hilarious, and I don't even like Tarantino movies (Pulp Fiction excluded). I don't think it was the right type of movie to win best picture.

I saw District 9 and from what Avatar seems like and after watching Hurt Locker, I would vote District 9 as the best of the bunch.
 

Alone

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I think what put me off with District 9 is the accent. I just can't tolerate it.
 
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ok, so i assume you have no reason then, and you're just being a fucktard.

No reason for believing something that is painfully obvious to basically everyone who watched the movie? Do you really need it spelled out that the guy was a dumbshit (putting his own and fellow soldiers' lives in danger multiple times, disregarding orders, etc) and normal life left him devoid of feeling so he kept going back and trying to do crazy shit to fill that void?

I liked The Hurt Locker and it felt believable enough within the world they created. Unless I am watching a documentary (heck, sometimes even then) I do not expect hyperrealism, I expect something believeable within the confines of the world they set up and I felt I got that here.

I'm no expert on war and I have no desire to be one, but I was convinced by the writing and performances. Of course there is going to be some dramatic license taken, it is a movie after all.

KT

The sniper scene alone tells me that something major failed. I don't know if it was how it was written, how it was directed, or what, but that scene is just fail from start to finish. Its not just unrealistic, its downright senseless.

It was an ok movie if you can suspend disbelief, which is difficult for me when they try to be very realistic and then proceed to shit all over it with some of the stuff they had in there. If they had taken more artistic license it actually would have been a better movie as the "adrenaline junkie" was a good angle.
 

squirrel dog

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I can't believe Voltage Pictures wants to sue people.Like biting the hand that feeds you.Good Luck with that.A far better use of the monies pissed away with lawyers would be to create a website of their own and sell legal downloads of their pictures.At $5~whatever a pop,that would create an alternate revenue stream.They develop a bad rep for suing
people,I don't see how that could serve them well going forwards.
 

Nerva

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what a piece of garbage this was. how up in the air didn't win is beyond me. and from what i have heard from a high school friend who served/serving in iraq, EODs would never pull the shit they pulled in the movie.
 

BrokenVisage

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Just saw Hurt Locker. I didn't think it was that great. I thought it was interesting, got to see a different side of things. I liked that we got a peek into the emotional bonds between soldiers, their work and the people they work with but mostly its just a reminder that war is an ugly thing.

I did not see Avatar.

I did see Inglorious Basterds and loved it, it was hilarious, and I don't even like Tarantino movies (Pulp Fiction excluded). I don't think it was the right type of movie to win best picture.

I saw District 9 and from what Avatar seems like and after watching Hurt Locker, I would vote District 9 as the best of the bunch.

It'd might be fair enough to make that call if you didn't see some of the lesser 10 BP nominated movies, but to cast that vote without even seeing Avatar invalidates it completely. I don't know what you've been able to glean from a 3 hour movie through its advertising, but it reeks of elitism over not wanting to see a movie simply because it's popular. If that's not the case feel free to set the record straight.

Sure I liked District 9 too, even once the protagonist started to be able to understand an alien language fluently in a matter of hours, but that's beside the point. THL was an indie film wrapped around a great performance by Brenner, I also had issues with the overuse of shaky cam. Avatar was great though IMHO, but I'm not holding the "it's been done to death" thing against it like many others are. On its own merits the movie is a technical work of art in so many ways, the result of years of dedicated work that unbiasedly appealed to me (not the biggest Sci-Fi/Cameron fan). Yes there were recent BP winners that I would put above it but considering the field it ran against it should have swept the Oscars in all but maybe 2 categories.
 
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