The Hussein execution is so on schedule ***UPdated He's dead***

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Jhhnn

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So, uhh, maybe Dubya can just put the guy's head on a pike at the entrance to his ranch, bring the troops home...

Probably not. Still a lot of profit potential in the Iraqi debacle...
 

ProfJohn

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It is over; the most despicable dictator of the last 20+ years is dead.

His death may not stop anyone else from following in his foot steps, but he got a fitting punishment.

Now let?s pray that the leaders of Iraq can get their act together and solve their internal problems.

Let?s also pray that we give Iran a little kick in the teeth so that they stay out of Iraq?s affairs.
 

EKKC

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he deserves to die, but i think it will only spawn more insurgent and attacks.
 

Slick5150

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
It is over; the most despicable dictator of the last 20+ years is dead.

You need to keep up with your world affairs a bit better. There have been, and still are, far worse people in power than Saddam ever was. Look at a guy like Milosovic, who was conducting massive ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia, or at a number of nations in Africa where warlords are conducting similar activities today. I'm certainly not defending Saddam, but let's be real here.

Let?s also pray that we give Iran a little kick in the teeth so that they stay out of Iraq?s affairs.

Stay out of Iraq's affairs just like the U.S. didn't?



 

Lemon law

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The good news for some----Saddam Hussein is dead.

The bad news for some----Saddam as a scapegoat can no longer be blamed for anything happening in Iraq after 12/30/06.---and more realistically 4/2003.

So GWB&co will have to find new scapegoats---lets see AL-Quida--Al-Sadr---the US trained police that are now the death squads--various democratically elected members of the Iraqi government now gone rouge.---the ever slippery Achmed Chalibi---or Iran and Syria---all spring to mind.

In other words---the very set of people and governments that Saddam was suppressing, keeping out of power, and denying influence to during his heyday in Iraq.

Are we winning yet?---are we safer yet?------three more Iraqis dead---only 24 million to go and the Country is ours--all ours.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
It is over; the most despicable dictator of the last 20+ years is dead.
You need to keep up with your world affairs a bit better. There have been, and still are, far worse people in power than Saddam ever was. Look at a guy like Milosovic, who was conducting massive ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia, or at a number of nations in Africa where warlords are conducting similar activities today. I'm certainly not defending Saddam, but let's be real here.
Name for me one world leader who was directly responsible for the deaths of over a million people?

Remember the Iran-Iraq war was started by Saddam and around 800,000 people died in its 8 year span.

Then add the Al-Anfar campaign in which between 100,000 and 200,000 Kurds were killed, many by gas weapons attacks.

Then add the post Gulf War 1 uprising in which tens of thousands were killed. At one point an estimated 1000 a people a day were being killed.

Then add all the other people who died or just disappeared under Saddam and you will end up with well over a million people.

That ranks him up there with Hitler and his 40 million or so killed, Stalin with his millions killed and Mao with his millions killed. Heck, Saddam might not even break the top 5 in this last century, but he certainly takes the prize for the past 30+ years. I don?t think anyone has come close to the number of deaths under Saddam since Pol Pot.

BTW Milosevic was an amateur compared to Saddam. He was responsible for perhaps 200,000 dead.
 
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Name for me one world leader who was directly responsible for the deaths of over a million people?

Remember the Iran-Iraq war was started by Saddam and around 800,000 people died in its 8 year span.

Then add the Al-Anfar campaign in which between 100,000 and 200,000 Kurds were killed, many by gas weapons attacks.

Then add the post Gulf War 1 uprising in which tens of thousands were killed. At one point an estimated 1000 a people a day were being killed.

Then add all the other people who died or just disappeared under Saddam and you will end up with well over a million people.

That ranks him up there with Hitler and his 40 million or so killed, Stalin with his millions killed and Mao with his millions killed. Heck, Saddam might not even break the top 5 in this last century, but he certainly takes the prize for the past 30+ years. I don?t think anyone has come close to the number of deaths under Saddam since Pol Pot.

BTW Milosevic was an amateur compared to Saddam. He was responsible for perhaps 200,000 dead.

Absurd.

I am no apologist for Saddam Hussein, who was clearly a bloodthirsty tyrant, but blaming him alone for the casualties of the Iran-Iraq war is essentially the same exact thing as blaming President Bush for the hundreds of thousands of casualties in OIF.

The reality is that Saddam could never have achieved the harm he did during the Iran-Iraq war without the direct sponsorship of the Reagan and GHWB administrations. It seems laughably disingenuous to assign him sole blame for his misdeeds now, when we so heavily subsidized him during his most prolific human rights abuses.
 

fornax

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Originally posted by: tomywishbone
Good. Payback for 911.

And I thought that an IQ of at least a potato is needed to post here. How do you manage it, tomywishbone?
 

fornax

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
It is over; the most despicable dictator of the last 20+ years is dead.

You knowledge of history is about as solid as your prof. title. A library (if you know what that is) is your friend.
 

Lemon law

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To Prof John,

Well GWB may not be up to a million yet---but due to his perhaps well meaning brainfart in Iraq--roughly 655,000 Iraqis have died by violence---and the string is over for Saddam--GWB may just be warming up---if Iraq goes civil war and spills over into neighboring countries--the tally may well be in the 10's of millions.

Never thought I would say it---but no doubt about it--in the 21'st century---GWB is number 1.
 

Balt

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I doubt his execution will significantly affect the level of violence one way or the other.

It must have been rather strange for Saddam, though, to reflect on the turn of events. Only 23 years ago he was shaking hands with Rumsfeld.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
The good news for some----Saddam Hussein is dead.

The bad news for some----Saddam as a scapegoat can no longer be blamed for anything happening in Iraq after 12/30/06.---and more realistically 4/2003.

So GWB & co will have to find new scapegoats

Are we winning yet?---are we safer yet?

Well the Prof ought to know who the next scapegoats are, the Iranian guy perhaps?

The Prof will of course say we are winning.
 

tomywishbone

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Originally posted by: fornax
Originally posted by: tomywishbone
Good. Payback for 911.

And I thought that an IQ of at least a potato is needed to post here. How do you manage it, tomywishbone?


It's friday night and you got stoned & lazy (normally a good idea IMO). Didn't read the entire thread?

Edit: And stop comparing me to a potato. You might get a phone call from a potato's lawyer, threatening a slander suit.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: fornax
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
It is over; the most despicable dictator of the last 20+ years is dead.
You knowledge of history is about as solid as your prof. title. A library (if you know what that is) is your friend.
Where is my knowledge of history wrong? Can you name somebody more deserving of that title?
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Balt
I doubt his execution will significantly affect the level of violence one way or the other.

It must have been rather strange for Saddam, though, to reflect on the turn of events. Only 23 years ago he was shaking hands with Rumsfeld.
Neville Chamberlain
September 1938: My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time.

September 1939: This morning the British Ambassador in Berlin handed the German Government a final note stating that, unless we heard from them by 11 o'clock that they were prepared at once to withdraw their troops from Poland, a state of war would exist between us. I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received, and that consequently this country is at war with Germany.

History is full of instances like this. Heck, Italy switched sides in the middle of World War 2.

And you claim I don't know my history


 

LunarRay

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We invade a sovereign nation in violation of US and International law by using the lie [WMD/Delivery Systems and the 45 days within which Iraq intended to launch those WMD at the US or its interests] and then topple the existing government stucture and install another and capture the President of Iraq, jail him, insure he gets a trial and is executed and we rejoice at it all... Seems really kinda sad that we go to such measures to inforce our will upon the people of the world... It is like we've programmed Gort and he is us...

 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: LunarRay
We invade a sovereign nation in violation of US and International law by using the lie [WMD/Delivery Systems and the 45 days within which Iraq intended to launch those WMD at the US or its interests] and then topple the existing government stucture and install another and capture the President of Iraq, jail him, insure he gets a trial and is executed and we rejoice at it all... Seems really kinda sad that we go to such measures to inforce our will upon the people of the world... It is like we've programmed Gort and he is us...

Saddam was you hero? right?
 
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