Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: LunarRay
We invade a sovereign nation in violation of US and International law by using the lie [WMD/Delivery Systems and the 45 days within which Iraq intended to launch those WMD at the US or its interests] and then topple the existing government stucture and install another and capture the President of Iraq, jail him, insure he gets a trial and is executed and we rejoice at it all... Seems really kinda sad that we go to such measures to inforce our will upon the people of the world... It is like we've programmed Gort and he is us...
Saddam was you hero? right?
Do you understand the rule of law in the US and Internationally denies the US the right to violate the UN Charter? It has nothing to do with how I feel about Saddam personally but rather, how I feel personally about the means to the end...
Additionally: The trial was a farce from any aspect based on the opinion of experts on International law. I understand it was held in Iraq under Iraqi law, however, but for the illegal act of the invasion that event would not have occurred.
So and therefore, I submit that the violation of one man's rights that we scream to uphold is as bad as the many who have lost their rights for what ever reason... numbers are not important.. His guilt or innocence is not important because there is a much greater guilt and that guilt is having the holder of the 'Big Stick', in my name (and yours), use it to violate the rule of law that makes the stick a viable defense against those who'd seek to deny me (and you) my way of life...
Edit: Iraq was a sovereign nation before we over threw the government... Meaning the Iraqi were living their lives or dying as the case may be under their conditions... Human Rights Violations pointed to.... and how many are we complicit in destroying to further our objecives..? How on earth can we condem Saddam and not ourselves... how can we point to one event and not all of them.... how can we ever not point at ourselves when we point at Saddam... How many innocents died directly from our actions? Who screams for their rights... ? Well..... I do, damit... I do..