The Hussein execution is so on schedule ***UPdated He's dead***

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Saddam is no longer relevant---he was deposed almost four years ago---but the big loser will be us the people---who will now never learn the depth of US complicity when Saddam was our man in the Mid-east.

Dead men tell no tales---no wonder the hurry---but in the eyes of the world--its a kanaroo court. Only
the Hague has such juristiction. But the sham show must go on---I am waiting for the coming attraction----the execution of GWB as an international war criminal.---who in sheer number of Iraqi's killed makes Saddam look angelic in comparison.

And as DealMonkey points out--who gets the television rights----and can we watch it on pay for view?
Or maybe record it on our VCR---so we can watch it over and over again---while it only makes things
worse in Iraq.

Do you feel the same way about Osama? After all he has not been seen or heard from in 2 years. Is he irrelevent now?

When was the last time Saddam killed an American Citizen?.. ANSWER IT!

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: BrownTown
Personally I don't think leaders of countries should be executed for "crimes" commited in war. As we all know the US doesn't follow any of the "international laws" any more than Saddam did, so its pretty bogus to try him for murdering people during Iraq's various wars when the same argument could just as easily be justified to have the leaders of the US executed. This is jsut another case of the winners writting the history books. Obviously this is the way war has always worked, but it doesn't make it any more correct that the moral superiority comes from the better military and not the better people.

"Personally I don't think leaders of countries should be executed for "crimes" commited in war."

I think the fundamental problem with your argument is that Saddam is being executed by his OWN people, not by the US. We do not have the right to execute him, but if his countrymen want to, and it is legal in their country, they are exercising their right.

If we had a politician who killed hundreds or Americans in the way Saddam did with his own people, there would be no doubt that the American people would ask for the death penalty.

The people who are in power in Iraq right now are lunatics and schizophrenics.. they think their God tells them it is OK to kill the people from the other religious group who they don't like.

The ones in power are also from the opposite religious group that Saddam was from and are fast becoming just like Saddam.. they don't want Justice.. they want revenge and they know the US wants Saddam DEAD and so they are rushing this along to stay on our good side

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
I was never a big proponent of the death penalty, but finally, I understand why. People on death rowe hang out for 4, 6, 20 years, all the while, tax payers keep footing the bill for their substinance. A quick, final, graceful execution, is a refreshing approach. Next.
Any final thoughts?

I suggest you read Grissoms new book "Innocent Man" its about two guys who got railroaded for a rape and murder they DID NOT do back in 1983. but thanks to a POS DA they were sent to death row with about the only evidence was by jail house snitches. they spent 12 years on death row before DNA testing proved they did not do it and the real killer was found.

how many other people are on death row for crimes they did not commit, you can just as easily be one of them. hell just look at the Duke LaCross crap, i hope that DA gets disbared.

as for Hussein, there is no doubt that he killed all those people and should be hanged.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: Aimster
I believe some of Saddam's actions were justified in keeping a stable Iraq. It stopped a civil war.

However,

He bombed entire villages that were Shia simply because someone there tried to assasinate him. That is unjustified.
That did not stop a civil war. All that did was kill innocent people for no reason because of two people.

Kinda like we invated entire countries that were Afghan and Iraqi simply because some people there blew up some of our buildings? Is that also unjustified?

<--- supports the Afghanistan invasion, opposes the Iraqi one.

 

[Freshgeardude]

they should cut his arms off and let him bleed to death. let that A$$ suffer

 

[BoomerD]

Executing Saddam is only going to make him a martyr to the cause.
Does he deserve it? Perhaps, but IMO, we're going to regret it once it's done. Whether increased attacks on our troops/civilians, or terrorist acts here in the USA, we will be made to pay for executing him...

BTW, people claim that WE aren't executing him, his own people are...What is the Kool-Aid flavor of the day? The puppet government WE have established in Iraq is still at the beck and call of the Bush administration. IF it takes that long, once we're gone, it will be overthrown, and an Iranian style government will take it's place...

 

[nergee]

"Whether increased attacks on our troops/civilians, or terrorist acts here in the USA, we will be made to pay for executing him..."

We are going to pay anyway...execution or no execution......

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
The death penalty is nothing but revenge. It has never had any demonsterable use as a deterrant.

It certainly has in countries where it is swiftly enforced. In the US, there may as well not even be a death penalty. The odds of you comitting a crime and being executed for it are slim to none. You go over to China and start mouthing off to a policeman over there like people do here. See how quickly you fall into line after that. The death penalty is a HUGE deterrant. The only real argument is over it's ethical ramifications.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
The death penalty is nothing but revenge. It has never had any demonsterable use as a deterrant.

It certainly has in countries where it is swiftly enforced. In the US, there may as well not even be a death penalty. The odds of you comitting a crime and being executed for it are slim to none. You go over to China and start mouthing off to a policeman over there like people do here. See how quickly you fall into line after that. The death penalty is a HUGE deterrant. The only real argument is over it's ethical ramifications.

Ethical?

I guess you wouldn't care much if you or a family member were not guilty but were executed anyway

http://www.amazon.com/Innocent-Man-Murd..._1/103-0277368-1394264?ie=UTF8&s=books

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
The death penalty is nothing but revenge. It has never had any demonsterable use as a deterrant.

It certainly has in countries where it is swiftly enforced. In the US, there may as well not even be a death penalty. The odds of you comitting a crime and being executed for it are slim to none. You go over to China and start mouthing off to a policeman over there like people do here. See how quickly you fall into line after that. The death penalty is a HUGE deterrant. The only real argument is over it's ethical ramifications.

Ethical?

I guess you wouldn't care much if you or a family member were not guilty but were executed anyway

http://www.amazon.com/Innocent-Man-Murd..._1/103-0277368-1394264?ie=UTF8&s=books

And the other side of the coin is how many people are killed by someone that beat the system the first time.


I would suspect that there are many more that are repeat killers (blessed by the legal loopholes) that that are innocent.

 

[fornax]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
I was never a big proponent of the death penalty, but finally, I understand why. People on death rowe hang out for 4, 6, 20 years, all the while, tax payers keep footing the bill for their substinance. A quick, final, graceful execution, is a refreshing approach. Next.
Any final thoughts?

And why can't we have the same rigged court! I mean, court paid by and controlled by an illegal occupying power! You won't find a single human rights organization in the world which hasn't condemned this court as a travesty of justice. Maybe some day dimwits like you will get their desire and be put in front of corrupt court for which the term "kangaroo court" is an insult to kanagroos, your lawyers being pressured, beaten or killed, and the judges openly being on the side of the prosecution. Why not, indeed.

 

[UberNeuman]

I'd rather our troops were out of harms way before this took place. There's no pressing need for this execution to take place right now.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
I'd rather our troops were out of harms way before this took place. There's no pressing need for this execution to take place right now.

The pressing need is to shut Saddam up.. *no more info from him about our past misdeeds

AND .. you are 100000000% correct that this will create some INSTANT VIOLENCE .. and more death

 

[Shame]

Great... I'll be tossing and turning ALL night knowing that such a fine gentleman is leaving us.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

At this point I could care less. He's on Paris Hilton/Brad & Jennifer level on my "care" meter.

I'm not sure why he's being executed on this specific holiday though. Yet another example of just how out of touch the powers-that-be are with regards to ME culture? Are they trying to piss people off?

FYI... Just saw on the news: 1 Hr 40 Min to the big event.

 

[fornax]

Originally posted by: Ryan

I think the fundamental problem with your argument is that Saddam is being executed by his OWN people, not by the US. We do not have the right to execute him, but if his countrymen want to, and it is legal in their country, they are exercising their right.

If you believe that, I have a very nice oceanfront property in South Dakota for sale. Interested?

 

[Darkhawk28]

Right now, there is no difference between supporters of this war and Saddam Hussein. Both kill innocents and try to justify it. Both are addicted to blood and death.

 

[thescreensavers]

haha look what CNN said

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

He's dead

 

[PG]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
He's dead

link? proof?

 

[Freshgeardude]

YAY HE IS DEAD

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: PG

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
He's dead

link? proof?

cnn.com

 

[Freshgeardude]

go on cnn thats ur proof

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: PG

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
He's dead

link? proof?

Was watching on TV. The guy had a bug in his ear tied to Al Arabyia and stopped mid sentence to make the announcement.

 

[Willy Duet]

In my best Howard Cosell impersonation:

Down goes Saddam...Down goes Saddam