the hypocrisy of the american government

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Genx87

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On the other hand, we have a long history of subverting democracies all over the world. We encouraged mussilinis takeover of italy, and after the war, rigged elections to discourage a "communist" takeover, fought massive terrorist campagns against democracies in central america, overthrew democracies in Iran, argentina, and other places, and have supported fascist dictatorships all over the world. America spreading democracy is an utter joke. All we have done is to spread misery and hardship for our own profit and gain.

Your name fits you well.

Musollini? Got any proof? I know the Euros were looking at Hitler to help knock Musolini out of power. Imagine that, the Euros appeasing.

As for the rigging of elections in Italy, Greece, and other European nations. I suggest you read a little on how exactly Eastern Europe fell before saying we rigged the elections.

Maybe you should read about the Marshall plan and come back to tell us the US didnt help democracy flourish when the temptations of communism were so easy to taste.

 

CubicZirconia

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Originally posted by: Genx87
On the other hand, we have a long history of subverting democracies all over the world. We encouraged mussilinis takeover of italy, and after the war, rigged elections to discourage a "communist" takeover, fought massive terrorist campagns against democracies in central america, overthrew democracies in Iran, argentina, and other places, and have supported fascist dictatorships all over the world. America spreading democracy is an utter joke. All we have done is to spread misery and hardship for our own profit and gain.

Your name fits you well.

Musollini? Got any proof? I know the Euros were looking at Hitler to help knock Musolini out of power. Imagine that, the Euros appeasing.

As for the rigging of elections in Italy, Greece, and other European nations. I suggest you read a little on how exactly Eastern Europe fell before saying we rigged the elections.

Maybe you should read about the Marshall plan and come back to tell us the US didnt help democracy flourish when the temptations of communism were so easy to taste.

Convenient how you skipped right over Central and South America.
 

Genx87

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Convenient how you skipped right over Central and South America.

Yes, since the poster was concentrating on musolini and the rigging of elections in Europe. I put my focus on dealing with that issue.

I only have so much time I can set aside to debunking the lunatic left. I use it to the best I can.

But if you want me to debunk his silly claims of overthrowing democracy in Iran. I can happily oblige.

 

CubicZirconia

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Convenient how you skipped right over Central and South America.

Yes, since the poster was concentrating on musolini and the rigging of elections in Europe. I put my focus on dealing with that issue.

I only have so much time I can set aside to debunking the lunatic left. I use it to the best I can.

But if you want me to debunk his silly claims of overthrowing democracy in Iran. I can happily oblige.

Since, like you, I have limited time, I will keep my response brief. It is foolish to believe that the US always acts in the interests of democracy, but it is equally foolish to believe that it never does. When you refuse to accept that our beloved US government has done some not so nice things in the past, you're on the same plane as the group that you label the "lunatic left."
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Isaiah
Originally posted by: Genx87
Now why would we allow two terrorist supporting nations to meddle with the internal affairs of a fledgling Iraqi democracy?

Does that make any sense to you?


No it doesn't make any sense to me. Iraq should kick out all the terrorist supporting nations before they try to have a free and fair election.
Yeah but if they kicked us out who would help them run their elections?

bwahahaha! nice... :thumbsup:
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: rickn
Bush at his warmongering again, telling other countries not to meddle in Iraq or ELSE. But, what country has already meddled in Iraq, what country is overseeing security for the elections? America. If that's not meddling I dunno what you would call it. Such hypocrisy. I bet Bush's puppet choice for President will be the first name at the top of the ballot. Meddling

Didn't Iran teach us anything? Puppet regimes installed by America FAIL. Any Iraqi goverment installed by America will FAIL

I wish all of you people who are such fvcking EXPERTS on teh world's foreign policies would just get your asses over to Iraq and fix the damn problem. I'm sick of your pedantic whining!

Jason

If we didn't invade Iraq, there would be no FVCKING problems to worry about.

 

arsbanned

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Now why would we allow two terrorist supporting nations to meddle with the internal affairs of a fledgling Iraqi democracy?

Does that make any sense to you?

Now why would you think it's our place to allow it? America attacked and has occupied a sovereign nation for no reason.

Does that make any sense to you?
 

wiin

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sometimes I am so embarrassed to live in this country

I don't know why people who are embarassed of living in america(or are citizenz of this great country) are still here. No one is stopping these people from moving to Iran, Haiti, China, Russia, or North Korea. Just leave and be done with it.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: wiin
sometimes I am so embarrassed to live in this country

I don't know why people who are embarassed of living in america(or are citizenz of this great country) are still here. No one is stopping these people from moving to Iran, Haiti, China, Russia, or North Korea. Just leave and be done with it.

I'm so glad there's nothing about your country that upsets you - I can't imagine being so complacent that I didn't think there were things that needed changing in my own country.



In fact, make that a special 'canadian-' just for you.

 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Genx87
On the other hand, we have a long history of subverting democracies all over the world. We encouraged mussilinis takeover of italy, and after the war, rigged elections to discourage a "communist" takeover, fought massive terrorist campagns against democracies in central america, overthrew democracies in Iran, argentina, and other places, and have supported fascist dictatorships all over the world. America spreading democracy is an utter joke. All we have done is to spread misery and hardship for our own profit and gain.

Your name fits you well.

Musollini? Got any proof? I know the Euros were looking at Hitler to help knock Musolini out of power. Imagine that, the Euros appeasing.

As for the rigging of elections in Italy, Greece, and other European nations. I suggest you read a little on how exactly Eastern Europe fell before saying we rigged the elections.

Maybe you should read about the Marshall plan and come back to tell us the US didnt help democracy flourish when the temptations of communism were so easy to taste.


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Of course it will be dismissed as BS sinces its coming from that chomsky guy :roll:
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: wiin
sometimes I am so embarrassed to live in this country

I don't know why people who are embarassed of living in america(or are citizenz of this great country) are still here. No one is stopping these people from moving to Iran, Haiti, China, Russia, or North Korea. Just leave and be done with it.

The Idea is to make it better. Not to make it worse like those countries you just listed. I don't want to live in an america that can be put in the same sentence as those countries without "as opposed to" or "in contrast" or something with similar meaning seperating the two.
 

RobCur

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Are we really free in America? Or is that just ignorance in most of us?
I can't even say anything anymore without being criticised.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: RobCur
Are we really free in America? Or is that just ignorance in most of us?
I can't even say anything anymore without being criticised.

People are free to criticise. You're free to criticise back.

 

blahblah99

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Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: rickn
Bush at his warmongering again, telling other countries not to meddle in Iraq or ELSE. But, what country has already meddled in Iraq, what country is overseeing security for the elections? America. If that's not meddling I dunno what you would call it. Such hypocrisy. I bet Bush's puppet choice for President will be the first name at the top of the ballot. Meddling

Didn't Iran teach us anything? Puppet regimes installed by America FAIL. Any Iraqi goverment installed by America will FAIL

The person most likely to win the Iraq election is supported by Iran.

So, $200 BILLION later, we will have a terrorist state that might merge countries with Iran in order to make one larger, stronger country.

Bush is a moron and this should be discussed in the media. The Daily Show will probably mention it soon ifhtey havn't already.

Well, according to the TIMES magazine, he's the man of the year... I just wished someone high up in the media world has the balls to call him out.
 
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