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lxskllr

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I don't cut kindling. I have an endless supply of branches I can burn, so I save the big wood as firewood.
 
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bbhaag

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Last time I cut kindling with a hand axe my glasses slid off my nose just as I committed to the downstroke. Caught the glasses exactly on the bridge!
Yep I experienced something similar a few weeks ago. I was using my tried an true hand axe to make some kindling before lighting a fire. Everything was going well until it wasn't. I caught the tip of my finger and after a few days thought "There has to be a better way".

Turns out there is and a 15 year old from New Zealand already thought of it. I'm never going back to the old way.
 

lxskllr

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Don't hold and cut. Axes, chainsaws, machetes... I went to the hospital for stitches when I got myself with a machete. I knew better too, but thought, "Eh, it'll be alright...". Went through a leather glove and cut the back of my hand when the blade skittered off a knot.
 

bbhaag

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I don't cut kindling. I have an endless supply of branches I can burn, so I save the big wood as firewood.
Yeah that makes sense. I get my wood locally and usually it is just quartered or eighthed which leaves me with some nice large pieces but is still to large for getting a good bed of coals going.

I don't have enough trees in my yard to collect enough branches otherwise I would to that because it sounds like a really good idea
 
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sdifox

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bbhaag

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I might have to try one of those things for doing indoor kindling. A little better than swinging an axe indoors lol. Less pieces flying as it will be more contained.
I've used it indoors but only in the garage on a concrete floor. It does take a fair amount of force to split the wood I use(oak, walnut, cherry, honey locust)so be sure to use it on a very hard surface otherwise you might damage your floor.

I know this might seem like a "duh" suggestion but just wanted to throw it out there so you know. Oh, and the wood WELL seasoned for like 10+ months.
 
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bbhaag

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Wouldn't a butane torch make more sense? I use one for creme brulee. Used to make kindlings with a wood cleaver.

Example, not recommendation
Ummm....maybe. The kindling we are referencing isn't really used in cooking. Although I guess you could use it for stuff like an outdoor wood fired pizza oven or a wood fired grill for smoking meats.....maybe?

IDK, I just use it in my fireplace for some warmth and some good smells.
 

bbhaag

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That looks like a fire at a chemical plant

mmm... boron...
Yeah I did add some copper and sulpher to get the colors for that photo. I don't do it very often and the affect doesn't last very long but it does WOW company when they come over.
 
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Chaotic42

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Got my last order of wood and supplies in. Bought myself the stuff I need to make some modular work tables and eventually a fume hood. I could buy all of that, but I want to learn to build simple things like that for fun and because prices are just stupid now.
 
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sdifox

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Ummm....maybe. The kindling we are referencing isn't really used in cooking. Although I guess you could use it for stuff like an outdoor wood fired pizza oven or a wood fired grill for smoking meats.....maybe?

IDK, I just use it in my fireplace for some warmth and some good smells.
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Err I meant start the fire with the torch.
 
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bbhaag

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Err I meant start the fire with the torch.
Gotcha, sorry I misunderstood your post. I guess I could start it with a torch but I don't know how cost effective that would be because it takes a lot of energy to get a good bed of coals going.

Right now my go to is adding 4-6 Betterwood Products Fatwood fire starter sticks stacked around 2-3 pieces of kindling and it seems to work pretty well.

My house also has a terrible problem with negative air pressure so over the years I've found if I start small then work up to a larger fire the flue and chimney warm up to over come the pressure. If I don't do it this way a wave of smoke comes out of the firebox instead of going up the chimney(backdrafting is the technical term).
 

lxskllr

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If you use a chainsaw at all, "noodles" make a good firestarter. Even better, take the dregs of a candle, heat it on the woodstove til it melts(Be careful! and never leave it unattended!), then fill the jar with noodles so it soaks up all the wax. After it cools and solidifies, you can take some out as a long(ish) burning firestarter.

To get noodles, you cut along the grain of the log, eg lengthwise. That produces long ribbons of wood. You may have to stop every so often to clear the clutch cover cause it can jam it up, especially on smaller saws.
 
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bbhaag

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If you use a chainsaw at all, "noodles" make a good firestarter. Even better, take the dregs of a candle, heat it on the woodstove til it melts(Be careful! and never leave it unattended!), then fill the jar with noodles so it soaks up all the wax. After it cools and solidifies, you can take some out as a long(ish) burning firestarter.

To get noodles, you cut along the grain of the log, eg lengthwise. That produces long ribbons of wood. You may have to stop every so often to clear the clutch cover cause it can jam it up, especially on smaller saws.
Thanks for the tip! I don't use a chainsaw on a regular basis so I don't have access to "noodles" but I do know what you are referring to and yeah that would make a great firestarter.

I've got a business partner though you owns Good Forest Timber Company so I will touch base with him and see if he will just let me have some. Him and his brother worked for me when they were kids and we still buy hardwood mulch from them.
 
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waffleironhead

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Thanks for the tip! I don't use a chainsaw on a regular basis so I don't have access to "noodles" but I do know what you are referring to and yeah that would make a great firestarter.

I've got a business partner though you owns Good Forest Timber Company so I will touch base with him and see if he will just let me have some. Him and his brother worked for me when they were kids and we still buy hardwood mulch from them.
Heh, i just drove past that place in september for a wedding at camp wokanda.
 
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sdifox

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Gotcha, sorry I misunderstood your post. I guess I could start it with a torch but I don't know how cost effective that would be because it takes a lot of energy to get a good bed of coals going.

Right now my go to is adding 4-6 Betterwood Products Fatwood fire starter sticks stacked around 2-3 pieces of kindling and it seems to work pretty well.

My house also has a terrible problem with negative air pressure so over the years I've found if I start small then work up to a larger fire the flue and chimney warm up to over come the pressure. If I don't do it this way a wave of smoke comes out of the firebox instead of going up the chimney(backdrafting is the technical term).
Err that means the chimney is either poorly designed or is blocked. Charcoal chimney works with a piece of newspaper, so I don't see how a butane torch would be inferior.
 

bbhaag

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Heh, i just drove past that place in september for a wedding at camp wokanda.
It's a really great operation run by an even better family. I met their Grandpa Kelly around 18 years ago when I was looking for a source for bulk hardwood mulch. Since then Kelly retired and their father Bret has taken over the business and is teaching his boys Connor and Jarret the family business. Connor and Jarret are the ones who worked for me and I got nothing but great things to say about them.
 
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bbhaag

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Err that means the chimney is either poorly designed or is blocked. Charcoal chimney works with a piece of newspaper, so I don't see how a butane torch would be inferior.
Perhaps but negative pressure is a problem you'll see more likely in homes built recently because the construction tolerances in newer homes are tighter and the insulation materials in newer constructed homes is better. They are more air tight than homes built before them.

My home was constructed in 2011 so while not "brand new" it is new enough to enjoy a lot of the benefits of a modern home construction. Most if not all new home constructions forgo the wood burning fireplace instead opting for gas fed fireplaces which don't suffer the backdrafting problem.
 
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stargazr

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Just ordered some Christmas incense. It's made from balsam fir needles. The kind I used to get was called Christmas Memories, and Campfire Memories. They stopped making it quite awhile ago. The original box mentioned cedar as well as balsam fir so we'll see if it's like what I remember.
 
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lxskllr

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I have a box of that brand, but I don't remember the exact scent. Forgot about it til you posted. I'll have to remember to try finding it when I get home. I think it may be balsam fir.
 
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stargazr

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I have a box of that brand, but I don't remember the exact scent. Forgot about it til you posted. I'll have to remember to try finding it when I get home. I think it may be balsam fir.
I found a box of the original kind on ebay that I just ordered since I posted that.

 
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