Discussion The impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden

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Sums it up. But with only the 5 vote majority, Dems really should work with the few sensible Rs to actually get something done.
There are probably some working for things at the margins, but the House being what it is now is a great campaign ad: Republicans are showing that they can't govern; it's just a total clown show in the Republican caucus.
 

ivwshane

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Perceived?
The Bidens took in millions from foreign countries / governments. That's an indisputable fact, correct?
Only against Trump and his own grifting / bribery could the Biden's not be "damaged goods".
But for Democrats to lower the bar to Trump....

If it was an internal party matter, the Bidens should be thrown out on their asses.


It’s disappointing to see you regress like this. You are smart enough to follow the facts and yet you’ve seemingly fallen for Republican propaganda without doing any critical thinking.

List for us what money was taken and by whome and how it was a corrupt or illegal act. Hell, go ahead and show how it was legal but unethical.
 

fskimospy

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I don't know what they are waiting for? They certainly have the votes to do it. He won't be convicted in the Senate, obviously, but the GOP can go ahead and claim victory nonetheless.

Just get this over with.
They almost certainly do not have the votes to do it, which is why McCarthy did it this way after spending months saying a full vote of the House was required to open an inquiry. If he had the votes he simply would have taken the vote.

And that’s just to open an inquiry, not to actually impeach.
 

pauldun170

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Perceived?
The Bidens took in millions from foreign countries / governments. That's an indisputable fact, correct?
Only against Trump and his own grifting / bribery could the Biden's not be "damaged goods".
But for Democrats to lower the bar to Trump....

If it was an internal party matter, the Bidens should be thrown out on their asses.
Show
Your
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Perceived?
The Bidens took in millions from foreign countries / governments. That's an indisputable fact, correct?
Only against Trump and his own grifting / bribery could the Biden's not be "damaged goods".
But for Democrats to lower the bar to Trump....

If it was an internal party matter, the Bidens should be thrown out on their asses.

I don't know what's more disgustingly impressive, the endless spigot of diarrhea that Republicans spew or your willingness to slurp it as close to the tap as possible.

There aren't any left!

They died with John McCain. FFS look at what Tuberville's doing and no one's stopping him.

McCain was the genesis for the modern crooked Republicans.
 

hal2kilo

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It’s disappointing to see you regress like this. You are smart enough to follow the facts and yet you’ve seemingly fallen for Republican propaganda without doing any critical thinking.

List for us what money was taken and by whome and how it was a corrupt or illegal act. Hell, go ahead and show how it was legal but unethical.
It's like Morning Joe, as much as he hates Trump, he still falls back and still repeats lies about the Clintons. It appears certain facts that seem comforting to the cons, never fade.
 

Indus

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It's like Morning Joe, as much as he hates Trump, he still falls back and still repeats lies about the Clintons. It appears certain facts that seem comforting to the cons, never fade.

Think we can come to grips with the fact that Hildabeast was corrupt to the core.

In this day and age where only 1 or 2 things sum up politicians.. she was defined by wiping her email server and getting questions to debates before the debate happened.

That sneaky corruption stuck with her and gave us Trump thanks to 26000 votes in 3 states.
 

hal2kilo

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Think we can come to grips with the fact that Hildabeast was corrupt to the core.

In this day and age where only 1 or 2 things sum up politicians.. she was defined by wiping her email server and getting questions to debates before the debate happened.

That sneaky corruption stuck with her and gave us Trump thanks to 26000 votes in 3 states.
Yea, that's why they are in jail now. /s
 

Moonbeam

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The more psychotically the Republicans act, in my opinion, the sooner we will be rid of them. I see high board diving into an empty pool.
 
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nakedfrog

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Think we can come to grips with the fact that Hildabeast was corrupt to the core.

In this day and age where only 1 or 2 things sum up politicians.. she was defined by wiping her email server and getting questions to debates before the debate happened.

That sneaky corruption stuck with her and gave us Trump thanks to 26000 votes in 3 states.
You've got a pretty low bar for "corrupt to the core" there.
 

Indus

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You've got a pretty low bar for "corrupt to the core" there.

No

But you have to realize that when GOP is corrupt to the core.. and she looks more of the same..

idiots start thinking maybe Trump's an outsider so "better"
 

ivwshane

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No

But you have to realize that when GOP is corrupt to the core.. and she looks more of the same..

idiots start thinking maybe Trump's an outsider so "better"

She only looks like “more of the same” to people who have fallen for Republican propaganda.




Off topic; Your posts are becoming concerning and I highly recommend checking in with your doctor. I’ve seen this mentality shift before…
 

Moonbeam

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Think we can come to grips with the fact that Hildabeast was corrupt to the core.

In this day and age where only 1 or 2 things sum up politicians.. she was defined by wiping her email server and getting questions to debates before the debate happened.

That sneaky corruption stuck with her and gave us Trump thanks to 26000 votes in 3 states.
Trump didn't win because Hillary was a beast but because people like you believed it. Her weakness was in that she relied too much on the obvious fact that Trump was an idiot with too little understanding that idiots appeal to idiots and there are more of them than a strictly rational person can credence. When did you realize that Trump would very likely win and you started sounding the alarm?
 

Indus

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When did you realize that Trump would very likely win and you started sounding the alarm?

A lot sooner than most:


Go back and read this thread..

We were wrong.. so very wrong!
 

fskimospy

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Think we can come to grips with the fact that Hildabeast was corrupt to the core.

In this day and age where only 1 or 2 things sum up politicians.. she was defined by wiping her email server and getting questions to debates before the debate happened.

That sneaky corruption stuck with her and gave us Trump thanks to 26000 votes in 3 states.
It’s kind of crazy how much you’ve internalized right wing propaganda.
 

vi edit

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We can post mortem 2016 forever.

1) Clinton ran a shit campaign. She tried to run out the clock and never addressed the bedwetters in the rust belt and upper midwest. She was completely unappealing to black voters.

2) Her last name was Clinton and she had 20 years of GOP frothing hate piled up on her for simply being her.

3) American voters are fucking stupid. They can't get over the idea of a woman president. They still broke for Trump *after* the pussy grabber tape. They've suffered from years of GOP indoctrination and just push the "vote republican" button like a bunch of trained monkeys.

And that's not even going after the microtargeting that happened in battleground states that the Clinton campaign slept one. Trump dunked on them in bringing out votes in places that mattered.
 

Indus

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It’s kind of crazy how much you’ve internalized right wing propaganda.

Maybe you're forgetting I was with Bernie..

Right wing propaganda is so easy to put blame on but there's some of us that do like Kathy Hochul but not Eric Adams. It's not GOP propaganda to say someone's a corrupt asshole!

Anyways back to the thread.. Biden doesn't appear corrupt at all and there's no proof for accusations.

Won't stop them from making it a complete shit show and flooding the airwaves with supposed corruption.
 

Indus

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I have noticed some parallels with Trump and Bernie voters.

What you're talking about -- it's the jimmy dore wing.. that thought Bernie was a hero since he was anti-war and now since Biden's helping Ukraine.. they flipped over to Trump after 2022.

I'm not one of those.. I agree with Bernie's socialism.

But you're not wrong:

 

Indus

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She only looks like “more of the same” to people who have fallen for Republican propaganda.




Off topic; Your posts are becoming concerning and I highly recommend checking in with your doctor. I’ve seen this mentality shift before…

Thanks for your concern bud but it's not me.

I'm very concerned about the Fascist wing of the GOP. If you think I'm shifting towards them.. relax.. I'll NEVER BE ONE OF THEM. You know my reasons.. I've mentioned them many times.

However I refuse to go along and support the incompetent and corrupt Eric Adams wing of the party which I don't think is all that better from moderate Republican wing of Do nothing and blame the dems.

And ofcourse Biden's taking a hit with Adams blaming him and he's losing blacks and hispanics if you believe the polls. I think it's a bit of hostage taking by Adams.. give me what I want or I cost you the election by repeating right wing talking points.

Total lunacy!
 

Moonbeam

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I sounded the alarm Nov 2015 but thought no way he would win the general. I gave this country too much credit.
That was Occam's Razor obvious he would not win. He was a known criminal and obvious psychopath. What I know a lot about is the hidden psychological ramifications that accompany self hate, especially the feeling of of being inwardly dead it brings and the need for chaos as stimulation, the death wish self haters carry within them. Self haters long for someone to give their negativity permission. Self awareness prepared me to realize the nature of my own inner sickness. When I was first exposed to a healthy person who showed me myself in the mirror I knew self hate was the answer to everything.
 

Moonbeam

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A lot sooner than most:


Go back and read this thread..

We were wrong.. so very wrong!
You describe what a piece of shit Trump is, not that he would win. You offered no solution to stop him. I suggested the problem was incorrect messaging by Clinton and what it actually should have been all when he was still a poo pooed candidate that only a few people gave any chance of winning. His mastery of the appeal to self haters was obvious to me because I understand the characteristics of self hate. And please, my knowledge is accidental, the result of life events not of my making.
 
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