Discussion The impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden

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fskimospy

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So far, the Republicans have managed to conclusively prove:
1) None of the payments to Hunter were illegal
2) Joe Biden received absolutely no benefits and no payments from Hunter's activities

While convincing half of America the exact opposite on both points through repeated lies.
They haven’t convinced half of America of anything. Those maniacs were already convinced from day one because they don’t care about what’s true, just what makes them feel emotionally validated.

I really think we look at this the wrong way. It is not Fox News and Republican politicians making the base crazy - the crazy base demands they do this.
 

allisolm

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So far, the Republicans have managed to conclusively prove:
1) None of the payments to Hunter were illegal
2) Joe Biden received absolutely no benefits and no payments from Hunter's activities

While convincing half of America the exact opposite on both points through repeated lies.

They haven’t convinced half of America of anything. Those maniacs were already convinced from day one because they don’t care about what’s true, just what makes them feel emotionally validated.
All you have to do is read the posts of some members here who, despite having been told and shown the actualities of what transpired and the many Republicans who support those actualities. They decided long ago that facts shouldn't interfere with their convictions.

"I remain unconvinced that the Bidens are innocent."
"Just wondering why Menendez and not Biden. It's the same thing, just done a slightly different way."

You can lead a horse to water...
 

VRAMdemon

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So ... They’ve spent hours demonstrating the complete lack of a basis for any accusations or need for an investigation, and they are going to follow that up with a subpoena for Joe and Hunters bank records? That doddering old demented Biden somehow is able to run the most sophisticated frauds imaginable, covering all the evidence.

My assumption here is that they expect that to be denied, and then they can point at that denial and claim that the fact that they won’t allow for a subpoena is showing that they have something to hide, and that is evidence of corruption.

Note that this is what they will claim to the public, in an attempt to hurt Biden at the polls. They aren’t going to make that argument in court or use it as the basis of an attempt to impeach that will blow up in their faces. They don’t need to burn anything down, all they need is a fog machine so that they can claim there’s a fire. Start this investigation and keep going and use that to batter him during the election. Dig deep enough into anyone and you’ll find something that looks like a scandal, even if you have to squint a little. Which is all they’re actually hoping to accomplish. I just today overheard a guy at lunch say “Biden’s just as bad as Trump.” People who don’t follow these things closely just hear “Biden” and “impeachment inquiry” and, boom, he’s corrupt. there are too many voters like the guy I overheard at lunch who won’t vote for Trump but could be persuaded to not vote at all because they believe Biden is corrupt. They’re just not motivated to dig any deeper than what they hear on the news while they’re making dinner. If a legitimate swing voter can’t see the difference, that could be a problem. Hopefully they see through the bullshit.
 
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So ... They’ve spent hours demonstrating the complete lack of a basis for any accusations or need for an investigation, and they are going to follow that up with a subpoena for Joe and Hunters bank records? That doddering old demented Biden somehow is able to run the most sophisticated frauds imaginable, covering all the evidence.

My assumption here is that they expect that to be denied, and then they can point at that denial and claim that the fact that they won’t allow for a subpoena is showing that they have something to hide, and that is evidence of corruption.

Note that this is what they will claim to the public, in an attempt to hurt Biden at the polls. They aren’t going to make that argument in court or use it as the basis of an attempt to impeach that will blow up in their faces. They don’t need to burn anything down, all they need is a fog machine so that they can claim there’s a fire. Start this investigation and keep going and use that to batter him during the election. Dig deep enough into anyone and you’ll find something that looks like a scandal, even if you have to squint a little. Which is all they’re actually hoping to accomplish. I just today overheard a guy at lunch say “Biden’s just as bad as Trump.” People who don’t follow these things closely just hear “Biden” and “impeachment inquiry” and, boom, he’s corrupt. there are too many voters like the guy I overheard at lunch who won’t vote for Trump but could be persuaded to not vote at all because they believe Biden is corrupt. They’re just not motivated to dig any deeper than what they hear on the news while they’re making dinner. If a legitimate swing voter can’t see the difference, that could be a problem. Hopefully they see through the bullshit.

Joe I think has already released tax records, and guessing Hunter's finances have been pulled by investigators, so I don't see that getting them much.

They don't even need to do that. Most Americans already believe ALL politicians are as corrupt as Turmp. That's why a lot of them have basically given him a free pass on it, and some think he's been "a breath of fresh air" as though he's been more honest about it, because he occasionally tries to brag openly about it.
 

MrSquished

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Think we can come to grips with the fact that Hildabeast was corrupt to the core.

In this day and age where only 1 or 2 things sum up politicians.. she was defined by wiping her email server and getting questions to debates before the debate happened.

That sneaky corruption stuck with her and gave us Trump thanks to 26000 votes in 3 states.

Were you the victim of an actual crime in New York City where a migrant whacked you in the head and you blacked out, read the NY Post a few too many times, and lost your mind or have you just lost your shit on your own free time without any traumatic head injury?
 

Meghan54

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Were you the victim of an actual crime in New York City where a migrant whacked you in the head and you blacked out, read the NY Post a few too many times, and lost your mind or have you just lost your shit on your own free time without any traumatic head injury?
No, he’s simply a still pissed off (for no discernible reason) Bernie bro. Nothing else need be said.
 
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UNCjigga

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GodisanAtheist

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I thought the whole point of the Hunter Biden stuff was specifically to muddy the waters around the dealings of the former President's own kids.
 

ivwshane

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I thought the whole point of the Hunter Biden stuff was specifically to muddy the waters around the dealings of the former President's own kids.

It’s been one of congressional republicans go to plays over the last several decades to use these “investigations” to hurt their political opponents. The problem is they are the party that cried wolf and no one except for their base believes them. It’s a cycle of use and replacement.
 
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Indus

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Were you the victim of an actual crime in New York City where a migrant whacked you in the head and you blacked out, read the NY Post a few too many times, and lost your mind or have you just lost your shit on your own free time without any traumatic head injury?

Actual crime by a Trumpanzee immigrant who told me to get the fuck out of my country!

Yes you read that correct!
 

Indus

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And ofcourse everyone shuts up when facts aren't in their favor.

Not looking so hot now for the pro-fox angle is it @MrSquished ?

NYC is a big place. There's always a side of NYC you don't see and it's very easy to assume all is well but shit can hit the fan very easily.

Just today on the way back home.. one guy.. I wanna say Indian maybe lost his grip on the subway car handle and just slightly rubbed against a black dude.

They talked some crap.. he said sorry and apologized, didn't take the bait.

Sadly he didn't run.

Those guys beat the living crap out of him. I wish he'd seen the women next to him immediately run out of the train car into the next car since they sensed trouble.

Will it be on the news?

Probably not, but it did happen. A train running to Far Rockway, between the Fulton Street and High Street Brooklyn Bridge stops and they got off at Jay Street.

Wanna say it happened around 6:10- 6:15 PM
 

Charmonium

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Not sure if this was mentioned, but you know what's just spectacularly wonderful about this for the Dems?

All of the MAGA news feeds are also showing responses from Ds who are, without exaggeration, simply basting, skewing and roasting Trump to a cinder.
 

fskimospy

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And ofcourse everyone shuts up when facts aren't in their favor.

Not looking so hot now for the pro-fox angle is it @MrSquished ?

NYC is a big place. There's always a side of NYC you don't see and it's very easy to assume all is well but shit can hit the fan very easily.

Just today on the way back home.. one guy.. I wanna say Indian maybe lost his grip on the subway car handle and just slightly rubbed against a black dude.

They talked some crap.. he said sorry and apologized, didn't take the bait.

Sadly he didn't run.

Those guys beat the living crap out of him. I wish he'd seen the women next to him immediately run out of the train car into the next car since they sensed trouble.

Will it be on the news?

Probably not, but it did happen. A train running to Far Rockway, between the Fulton Street and High Street Brooklyn Bridge stops and they got off at Jay Street.

Wanna say it happened around 6:10- 6:15 PM
I have been riding the subway daily for nearly 15 years and have never seen something like this yet you claim to see this constantly.

I think you’re full of shit.

Like, I’ve never seen it once.
 

Indus

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Have you considered therapy? You don't seem to be dealing well with it.
Dealing with it best we can. Many times she's fine and then she stops and shuts down and cries because of flashblacks.

None of the triggers include Fox News, NY Post or any of that right wing garbage. It's off limits in our home and phones.

The only time she honestly was at ease and was able to relax was when she took vacations away from the US.

I guess our minds now think that even though NYC is home.. its part of a shithole country!
 
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Indus

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I have been riding the subway daily for nearly 15 years and have never seen something like this yet you claim to see this constantly.

I think you’re full of shit.

Like, I’ve never seen it once.

I said it happened today, not yesterday, not the day before, not every day.

Even gave you the details.

If you don't like hearing the truth, put me on fucking ignore because I will not tell lies to make you feel any better.
 
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NWRMidnight

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Actual crime by a Trumpanzee immigrant who told me to get the fuck out of my country!

Yes you read that correct!
How do you know he was an immigrant, by his skin color, deminer, walk? Did he walk up to you and say "I'm an immigrant, get the fuck out of the country".. sounds like your problem is your set belief that everyone who looks different, has different skin color, appears to be a different race, is an immigrant, or at least that is how it looks from I suspect most of us reading your comments.
 
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Indus

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How do you know he was an immigrant, by his skin color, deminer, walk? Did he walk up to you and say "I'm an immigrant, get the fuck out of the country".. sounds like your problem is your set belief that everyone who looks different is an immigrant, or at least that is how it looks from I suspect most of us reading your comments.

How do I know he was an immigrant? He had an eastern European accent!

Good luck with your intuition but go search my posts.

Details are still the exact same as they were that day.

I will not change or add or subtract one detail from it.

Actually here's the post itself:


Coulda been Russian, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, or anything.. but definitely not an American accent.
 
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pauldun170

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I have been riding the subway daily for nearly 15 years and have never seen something like this yet you claim to see this constantly.

I think you’re full of shit.

Like, I’ve never seen it once.
Come to think of it, neither have I.
7Train, the reds, the blues, the oranges,
this includes the obnoxious trek up the 100s

I don't doubt fights happen but in 23 years I can't recall any incidents.

Maybe I have a calming effect?
 
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