Don't they marry their close cousins and half siblings over there? What is the Age of Consent and Marriage in that State, 10, 12? Good God the more I read about West Virginia the more the State sounds like a damn Third World Country then part of the US.Not just understand, but to solve too. West Virginia, you know what I am talking about
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Well, let me caution you, then, that you make assumptions about people every day and you would be hard pressed to function if you didn't. Let me stress again, therefore, that the assumption I made that you thanked the person who linked the video, not for the act of linking it, but for the content it contained that you liked, is not just an "anything at all" assumption but a logical one. And you yet haven't said if you watched and what you think of what the video contained.Well you did assumed correctly that I do indeed have the good sense to thank those who have done things of value to me. But however I was merely advising you to be mindful of just assuming anything at all about people.
Since you do actually hate yourself you can't help assuming that everybody else also hates themselves as well. While in Reality the fact is very people actually do!Well, let me caution you, then, that you make assumptions about people every day and you would be hard pressed to function if you didn't. Let me stress again, therefore, that the assumption I made that you thanked the person who linked the video, not for the act of linking it, but for the content it contained that you liked, is not just an "anything at all" assumption but a logical one. And you yet haven't said if you watched and what you think of what the video contained.
You made this claim also, that goes to the root of why I brought this matter up with you in the first place. "But I don't do any self loathing anyway at all." I simply wanted to advise you this was a seriously dangerous assumption you make. The mere fact that in post after post where I bring up this truth about people, the information triggers you to disagree or down vote what I have to say. Those are classic signs of a defensiveness that suggests the opposite is in fact true, that you do indeed hate yourself and hate being told it. Not a good idea in my opinion because you deny what is true but only true of what you feel, not of something really wrong with you.
An important step on the road to better mental health, in my opinion, is to know the truth of where you are because only then will there be any motivation to change. Hello, I am Moonbeam and I hate myself...................
Since you do actually hate yourself you can't help assuming that everybody else also hates themselves as well. While in Reality the fact is very people actually do!
Self hatred isn't formed in a complete vacuum, far from it. It is caused by the actions and failures of those that resulted in great harm to others. And since I have not done any major injuries to other folks I have no cause to hate myself or feel large amounts of guilt.
All the major Religions encouraged followers to have self-hatred and guilt simply for being alive as a Human Being.
Look, you're not the first person whose gone wonky at my suggestion we hate ourselves. I have been saying this from the time I first posted here. I also remember my own opinions about the notion the first time I was introduced to it. I also remember, vividly like I remember little else, the first time having turned myself to such a self-exploration via therapy, I let go and fell deep into my own inner reality. I remember well saying to myself over and over and over again, to my utter amazement, I had no idea. I had no idea that kind of hurt lay deep within me. I simply was overcome by amazement that such pain could actually have been hidden within me.Since you do actually hate yourself you can't help assuming that everybody else also hates themselves as well. While in Reality the fact is very people actually do!
Self hatred isn't formed in a complete vacuum, far from it. It is caused by the actions and failures of those that resulted in great harm to others. And since I have not done any major injuries to other folks I have no cause to hate myself or feel large amounts of guilt.
All the major Religions encouraged followers to have self-hatred and guilt simply for being alive as a Human Being.
No Moonbeem is bare ass baselessly assuming that everyone has Self Hatred without any evidence.Not assuming. Observing.
No Moonbeem is bare ass baselessly assuming that everyone has Self Hatred without any evidence.
Sort of: our original sin was to buy into the notion that sin exists. It’s but a step from there to call others evil and make them believe it. This splitting of the unity of reality into things by the language of naming caused us to become mired in the delusion of duality. Once there was only the non-reflective purity of being, the garden of eden if you will.It is his philosophy. He believes that self hate is the baseline human condition, and the cause of basically all our problems. It is in essence his word for evil, and we are all tainted by it from his version of original sin.
Go in peace. As you cautioned me let me caution you.........you may only assume you know what evidence is. But I only offer. Not my job to persuade you. I’ve given you what I can.No Moonbeem is bare ass baselessly assuming that everyone has Self Hatred without any evidence.
You had never even once presented evidence of everyone having self-hatred to begin with. You only dine to speak in riddles that makes little sense if any at all.Go in peace. As you cautioned me let me caution you.........you may only assume you know what evidence is. But I only offer. Not my job to persuade you. I’ve given you what I can.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hatredYou had never even once presented evidence of everyone having self-hatred to begin with. You only dine to speak in riddles that makes little sense if any at all.
Moon, no one is saying self hatred doesn't exist, they're saying you need to prove it's as central to the human condition as you think it is. The burden of proof is on the one presenting the theory. Linking to random medical pages for dealing with self hatred doesn't actually support your argument. As-is, you're doing a terrible job of conveying your point.<lots of irrelevant links>
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Perhaps you would like proof the earth isn't flat.
I learned all this from a man who was extremely successful and on top of the world, a psychologist, but he also discovered it was true of him too, much to his own amazement. I can't give you experience you have not had and the only way to know how true this is is to feel it yourself. I have.
But self understanding can never work that way. Truth isn’t a formula or prescription. It isn’t a set of facts. It is a state of conscious awareness that is affirmed internally as a peak experience. You know it by taste. How would you know the beauty of the beloved if you weren’t in love. My aim isn’t to prove, it is to share. You will take from from that only what YOU can take. The only price I ask are your sacred cows in the form of your demanding assumptions. I can only pay that price for myself. I can’t pay it for you.Moon, no one is saying self hatred doesn't exist, they're saying you need to prove it's as central to the human condition as you think it is. The burden of proof is on the one presenting the theory. Linking to random medical pages for dealing with self hatred doesn't actually support your argument. As-is, you're doing a terrible job of conveying your point.
But self understanding can never work that way. Truth isn’t a formula or prescription. It isn’t a set of facts. It is a state of conscious awareness that is affirmed internally as a peak experience. You know it by taste. How would you know the beauty of the beloved if you weren’t in love. My aim isn’t to prove, it is to share. You will take from from that only what YOU can take. The only price I ask are your sacred cows in the form of your demanding assumptions. I can only pay that price for myself. I can’t pay it for you.
Self defeating statement. Does sin exist or not? If it does, and we did it, then it is proper to find evil where it exists. If it does not exist, then we could not have done it, and it was not a sin and did not cause the problem, and evil must exist outside of it. Either way under this philosophy evil exists, and you are stating that it is noticing it that is the problem. That is actually really close to the Christian original sin story.Sort of: our original sin was to buy into the notion that sin exists. It’s but a step from there to call others evil and make them believe it.
This splitting of the unity of reality into things by the language of naming caused us to become mired in the delusion of duality. Once there was only the non-reflective purity of being, the garden of eden if you will.
In all times in all places there has and will always arise some souls who will see this and reawaken into being. God speed to you. It collapses time and space.
The real problem here is that there are just as many awkward and lonely women, but they don't meet the standards of the incels. It is about entitlement more than anything else. They feel entitled not just to a girlfriend, but to a specific girlfriend. Sometimes it is a very specific girl that they have fixated on, other times it is just that they have impossibly high standards, or have no interest in the woman herself and want a fantasy version of a woman. In all of these cases the real problem is that they feel entitled to this, and will not accept anything else, and believe that they should not have to work for it because it is an entitlement. This attitude of entitlement practically guarantees that they can't get what they feel entitled to, because it colors their every interaction. This in turn just feeds their anger and makes their interactions even more awkward and creepy.
I think the incel thing exploded because social media further eroded one or two generation's social skills to the point where you can become completely isolated from peer groups even though you attend the same school, etc. Who would have been socially awkward but still had a chance back in the 1980's now have no chance at all.
Uhm... You realize that women do the same thing right? They have some standards for men or young men too. Must be this tall, must have this type of job, drive this kind of car... Seen it all.
The difference is, women have far more free agency to sleep with whom they want. I can place any number of men and any number of women in a dive bar and I can assure you all the women regardless of anybody's standards can get some action that night. The men? Not so much.
I think the incel thing exploded because social media further eroded one or two generation's social skills to the point where you can become completely isolated from peer groups even though you attend the same school, etc. Who would have been socially awkward but still had a chance back in the 1980's now have no chance at all.
Let us not forget the term "incel" itself was coined by a woman, to describe her own situation.This is part of the problem, but it is worth remembering that this affected women as much as men. It might represent a bigger problem to the incel crowd because a large part of women's standards are social, not physical or economic and incels don't want to admit that their attitude and lack of social grace is the main barrier for them.
Yes, everyone has standards. The difference is that women tend to be less extreme in their standards, and more willing to compromise them. While a lot of men, especially the ones that trend towards incel type of thinking, have impossibly high beauty standards for women and truly believe that they 'can't get it up' for someone that does not fit their standards. How many times have we seen ridiculous things like men saying that a famous beauty has 'fat elbows' and that would be a deal breaker for them. The incels are the ones that take that into their real life.