wow J1900 is really efficient.. I wonder if there are differences between different boards, different boards, same chip but different power consumption? If positive, whats the best MB+CPU right now?
New Bay Trail-D analysis from Techspot, including some interesting results:
It's not the CPU+MB combo you should worry about, but rather the rest of the system (PSU, HDD etc).wow J1900 is really efficient.. I wonder if there are differences between different boards, different boards, same chip but different power consumption? If positive, whats the best MB+CPU right now?
It's not the CPU+MB combo you should worry about, but rather the rest of the system (PSU, HDD etc).
Most reviewers getting more than 20W idle power with these SOCs are using oversized PSUs and/or 3.5" mechanical HDDs which by themselves use 5-6W just to spin in idle.
You gotta hand it to Acer for giving its products self-explanatory names. The company just announced the Aspire Switch 10, and it's pretty much exactly what it sounds like. Which is to say, it's a 10.1-inch Windows device that switches (get it?) from one mode to another. In particular, it's a tablet with a magnetic keyboard dock, allowing you to use it as a tablet, a clamshell laptop, or in one of two hybrid modes: "Display" (with the screen facing away) and "Tent" (upside down). In practice, then, it's kind of a cross between Lenovo's Yoga series and Lenovo's reversible ThinkPad Helix tablet. The big difference: it has a much lower-power processor than the Helix, and doesn't accept pen input.
...Under the hood, it runs an Intel Atom Z3745 CPU, promising eight hours of battery life - on the low side for a Bay Trail tablet.
... That's about all she wrote for now: Acer says the tablet will arrive in June for $380 but for now, we've added some hands-on photos toward the top of the post.
MINIX, the company behind many successful Android TV box devices like the NEO X5 and NEO X7 is moving forward beyond the Rockchip platform, recently with its MINIX NEO X8 powered by Amlogic S802 but MINIX is now also working on bringing some Intel based mini PC / NUC devices based on the latest Intel Bay Trail SoCs.
The Asus VivoTab Note 8 definitely has its merits: the compact size combined with a good build quality and very decent system performance leave us with a favorable overall impression. The display and the good battery life are also a notch above the rest.
Where the other manufacturers went wrong, Asus does it right; the touchscreen with the Wacom combination of a digitizer with EMR stylus is extremely accurate. It is now easier to enjoy Windows 8.1 on a smaller tablet, since even non-touch optimized programs do not pose a problem and are easy to work with. Operation is quick and simple at all times and especially for MS Office applications, the pinpoint accuracy is something we would not want to miss going forward. Users who do not think they need this kind of precision on an 8-inch tablet can also opt for competing models like the Lenovo Miix 2 8, which retails for about 20 Euro (~$27) less (64 GB version at the time of writing).
Online stores have been hinting that Lenovo was working on a 10-inch counterpart to its ThinkPad 8 tablet, and now there's no doubt: the company's Australian branch has listed a ThinkPad 10 ahead of an official announcement. While a full-fledged product page was only briefly available, it was enough to show that the new Windows slate shares much in common with its smaller sibling. You'll find a slightly faster 1.6GHz quad-core Atom processor and up to 4GB of RAM, but there's still a 1,920 x 1,200 screen, up to 128GB of storage, an 8-megapixel rear camera and a 2-megapixel front shooter. Not that we're griping about the similarity between models, since this ThinkPad 10 should still be leaps and bounds more powerful than the aging ThinkPad Tablet 2.
The ThinkPad 10's big advantages over its 8-inch cousin are likely to revolve around its optional gear. As with the Tablet 2, there are promises of versions with LTE data and pen input. You'll also have the choices of a basic dock, a keyboard dock and a keyboard case if you need your tablet doubling as a workstation. Lenovo didn't give out any release details as part of its teaser, but an official listing suggests that a launch is just around the corner. We'd also expect a price premium over the $399 ThinkPad 8 -- that extra display area and processing power won't be cheap.
Intel's budget Bay Trail family of processors, encompassing models for tablets, notebooks, and cheap desktops, offer decent performance with low power draw. Low enough, in fact, that Acer has decided to not go with traditional active cooling for their new 11.6” Aspire E11 and V11 ultraportables, and are proudly trumpeting this fact in their marketing.
Liliputing's photos show an Intel Pentium N3520 quad-core, 2.16 GHz Bay Trail model in use with the pre-release E11 they looked at, though models with unspecified dualie Celerons will presumably be available as well. Both E11 and V11 will offer up to 8GB of RAM and hard drives with up to 1TB of storage. [...]
Then where are they in the retail channels? I dont know the figures, so I am not disputing your numbers. It just seems that considering all the money Intel is pouring into subsidizing the hardware adoption of Bay Trail, the marketing is terrible.
I live in a large metropolitan area, which has Best Buy, MicroCenter, Staples, and Office Max stores. Despite IMO attractive products like the Dell Venue 8 pro and Asus T100, none of those stores have a display model of a moderate priced windows tablet or convertible on display, much less android Bay Trail devices. They have 800.00 Surface 2 and the abominable Surface RT of course, but no moderate to cheap Bay Trail devices.
Google Translate said:ASUS goes to the Computex 2014 again at large. Part of the new line-up will Z3775 SoC to be beside the updated version of the T100TA with the new Intel Atom also a larger model: the ASUS Transformer Book T200TA! We have first details of the new 2-in-1 tablet notebooks traced.
The ASUS T200TA had been sighted for the first time in a roadmap of the manufacturer in February. Now we know that it is in fact a 11.6-inch version of Asus' convertible tablet notebook, because the device is already listed on a French dealer . The device is therefore also come along based on the new Atom Z3775, which is equipped with four 1.47 gigahertz cores, the upshift to 2.39 GHz when needed via Turbo Boost.
File this under “interesting”: Google and Intel are to hold a press event next week to, they say, highlight their latest collaboration involving Chrome OS.
That’s about as much information as we have right now. Both parties are being hush-hush about the content of the announcement, which is scheduled for next Tuesday evening, May 6, other than to say that we can expect it to centre on the cloud-based OS and some sort of device running it.
...As for precisely what? Well, there’s no official word, inkling or hint yet. But Intel did recently announce plans to bring their new ‘Braswell’ chips to Chromebooks, while Google developers continue to beaver away on adding touch-orientated features to the cloud operating system.
There’s no denying the results vary greatly depending on the task, and overall the performance of the Intel SoC still seem faster, but Tegra K1 and Celeron J1900 are clearly in the same class for most of the tests, and I’m not convinced the performance difference would be noticeable in daily use. There are however two tests that stand apart: VP8 libvpx Encoding, and OpenSSL, where Intel J800 is respectively nearly 8 times and twice as fast Tegra K1. This is most probably because the software has only be optimized for x86, or the libraries used make use of some hardware block(s) on the Intel processor, that’s not supported (at all or yet) by Nvidia Tegra K1.
Phoronix also monitored Tegra K1 during testing, and on average is was below 40 degrees Celsius, never going above 42. Jetson TK1 is however fitted with an heatsink and a fan which helps with cooling.
Dunno if it is offtopic or not, but... Why are you pasting all these products here?
I mean, thread feels like way too long advertisement and you are looking like a salesman, or BT product manager that needs to everything he can to get the word out.
It definitely doesn't look like an enthusiast sharing information with others, but a man at work.
Some valuable informations (like the benchmark above) are lost in between product ads.
I don't know if forum is the best way to market your products. It will be seen as invasive advertising.
Dunno if it is offtopic or not, but... Why are you pasting all these products here.
Google, Intel To Hold Joint Chrome OS Press Event Next Week
http://www.omgchrome.com/google-intel-press-event
I'm posting everything related to Silvermont-based chips related here. From products (chips, motherboards, tablets, notebooks, all in ones) to CPU benchmarks, previews/reviews, comparisons with competitors, etc. It's been like this since the beginning and I do it as a hobby. Sorry if it sounds different to you.
I disagree, I like this thread for it is nice to know about design wins and what products are on the market/soon to be on the market.Dunno if it is offtopic or not, but... Why are you pasting all these products here?
I mean, thread feels like way too long advertisement and you are looking like a salesman, or BT product manager that needs to everything he can to get the word out.
It definitely doesn't look like an enthusiast sharing information with others, but a man at work.
Some valuable informations (like the benchmark above) are lost in between product ads.
I don't know if forum is the best way to market your products. It will be seen as invasive advertising.
Dunno if it is offtopic or not, but... Why are you pasting all these products here?
I mean, thread feels like way too long advertisement and you are looking like a salesman, or BT product manager that needs to everything he can to get the word out.
It definitely doesn't look like an enthusiast sharing information with others, but a man at work.
Some valuable informations (like the benchmark above) are lost in between product ads.
I don't know if forum is the best way to market your products. It will be seen as invasive advertising.
i think it's too soon for Braswell, maybe moorefield?
Why did you add cherry trail to the OP? That has nothing to do with the thread?
I disagree, I like this thread for it is nice to know about design wins and what products are on the market/soon to be on the market.
There are people hired just for this single reason. They do it for living. Doing it for free is.... well I will keep that for myself.
I don't think it is the right place for this discussion.
If he is doing what he likes and mods are OK with it (marketing or not) then I don't even see a reason to discuss it.
I wanted to share my feelings about the thread, and how I see it. If I was interested in BT product I would use search engine like google to finds its design wins, not a thread on a forum .
I should probably contact Sweeper via PM rather than here.
It's definitely too soon for Braswell. Moorefield is a smartphone SoC.
I think because it's a common thing in this industry to replace products with better, updated versions, so a thread about Intel's mobile products that's only about Silvermont will become obsolete very soon.
Well this is just hilarious.
What if you're doing what you're accusing him of doing? I could sift through your posts and see exactly the same crap that you're accusing him of. What if you were hired by the red kool aid company to spread misinformation and propaganda? All I see sweepr doing is posting reviews and information on products. I don't see him spreading misinformation and propaganda. I'm also not saying you're a marketing drone but one could certainly get that impression based on post history. Perhaps the mistaken impression. I'm not saying you drink red kool aid but maybe someone could get that impression based on post history. Mistaken impression? I don't know. I don't care. I'm not going to make an accusation of that though, as you clearly have. Perhaps if you have an issue with it, you have a better avenue to express it rather than accuse someone out in the open as you have just done.
I truly appreciate what Sweepr is doing and check this thread every time it is updated because I love this product category but am waiting until cherry trail to get enough GPU before I buy in. Likewise, I wouldn't have seen the T200 leak if it hadn't been posted here. But I disagree that Erenhardt leaning towards AMD in discussion is the same as Sweepr running a thread that is 50% a product showcase for Bay-trail.
Again, I am very glad this thread exists and couldn't be happier with the way Sweepr is running it- but I think you are making a false equivalency saying they are doing similar things.
Back on topic, are there leaks for performance or more information on where Cherry Trail will end up in the mobile SOC world?
I disagree. I wouldn't have known that there was a T200 coming and a lot more if Sweepr wasn't kind enough to post all Atom news in this thread.
You need to start a new topic about cherry trail. This one was for Anandtech's preview of bay trail.
Well this is just hilarious.
What if you're doing what you're accusing him of doing? I could sift through your posts and see exactly the same crap that you're accusing him of. What if you were hired by the red kool aid company to spread misinformation and propaganda? All I see sweepr doing is posting reviews and information on products. I don't see him spreading misinformation and propaganda. I'm also not saying you're a marketing drone but one could certainly get that impression based on post history. Perhaps the mistaken impression. I'm not saying you drink red kool aid but maybe someone could get that impression based on post history. Mistaken impression? I don't know. I don't care. I'm not going to make an accusation of that though, as you clearly have. Perhaps if you have an issue with it, you have a better avenue to express it rather than accuse someone out in the open as you have just done.