The Intel Atom Thread

[dark zero]

They can just use Atom for the smallest one and then Molecules on the bigger ones?

Since they can't use the periodic table elements since it was taken by Mediatek (Helio) and OnePlus (Oxygen and Hydrogen)

I say that since Intel doesn't have to screw up with the names of their old best sellers by degrading them even more.

 

[dark zero]

Is OK to put this new on this topic?
https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/11/...servation-reserve-get-chance-1-99-crazy-deal/

http://www.leagoo.com/leagoo-t5c-global-reservation/

Seems that Atom is back with Spreadtrum.

 

[bullzz]

Is OK to put this new on this topic?
https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/11/...servation-reserve-get-chance-1-99-crazy-deal/

http://www.leagoo.com/leagoo-t5c-global-reservation/

Seems that Atom is back with Spreadtrum.

this isnt new though
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1119...rmontbased-soc-with-cat-7-lte-for-smartphones

I love how they add ST and MT "score" and create a CPU Total score

 

[Lodix]

I would prefer Geekbench to compare the CPU performance. But being 25% faster than a Cortex A53 while having a 20% frequency advantage makes the Atom core look very bad.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Early Geekbench score indicates Gemini Lake platform performs 30% better than Apollo Lake platform.

 

[Lodix]

Early Geekbench score indicates Gemini Lake platform performs 30% better than Apollo Lake platform.

Links for the results ?

 

[Bouowmx]

I would think Intel Airmont out-of-order would be significantly faster than ARM Cortex-A53 in-order, but I suppose not enough power for the Intel cores, or ARM->x86 translation.

 

[Dayman1225]

Links for the results ?

https://browser.geekbench.com/geekbench3/search?utf8=✓&q=n5000

 

[Dayman1225]

Im not sure if this has been posted @FanlessTech indicates the future lineup for Atom will be

Gemini Lake (we know off)
Gemini Lake +
Jasper Lake.

Wonder what happened to Mercury or is it still coming?

Also someone mentioned 5G LTE integrated Atom

This could give a possible timeline if that were to come

Source
Source

 

[Hans Gruber]

The intel atom. A gutless wonder. Nothing to see here. The ARM architecture would probably fit in this category.

 

[dark zero]

BTW, the GPU of that new Atom from Spreadtrum is Mali T820....

 

[dark zero]

I would prefer Geekbench to compare the CPU performance. But being 25% faster than a Cortex A53 while having a 20% frequency advantage makes the Atom core look very bad.

Indeed. And considering that A55 is near to show up is bad news.

 

[Dayman1225]

https://newsroom.intel.com/news/introducing-new-intel-pentium-silver-intel-celeron-processors/

Gemini lake is official

 

[Bouowmx]

Which variant of 14 nm is Gemini Lake manufactured on?

GLK seems like a pretty good release: ~25% score increase over the best N4200 (Windows 10)
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/5315637?baseline=4542640

 

[Dayman1225]

Which variant of 14 nm is Gemini Lake manufactured on?

GLK seems like a pretty good release: ~25% score increase over the best N4200 (Windows 10)
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/5315637?baseline=4542640

EDIT:
I'd actually say 14nm+ is more likely than 14nm or ++

 

[IntelUser2000]

For the first time on any PC platform, Intel will offer Gigabit Wi-Fi capability for ultra-fast connectivity with all-new Intel Pentium Silver and Intel Celeron processors. Using the industry standard of 2×2 802.11AC with 160MHz channels,

Integrated WiFi, for the first time ever. Well, not full integration, since part of them still exists on a card but we'll get there. We'll see similar integrated WiFi for Core with 300 series chipsets coming early next year.

They claim the mobile version is 58% faster and the desktop version is 68% faster in Sysmark 2014SE. That corresponds to roughly 30% increase per generation(Bay Trail-->Goldmont-->Goldmont Plus).

 

[Nothingness]

Which variant of 14 nm is Gemini Lake manufactured on?

GLK seems like a pretty good release: ~25% score increase over the best N4200 (Windows 10)
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/5315637?baseline=4542640

If you only pick integer and FP tests, the increase is more than 30%. Nice! It's now competitive with non Apple ARM cores

 

[Roger Wilco]

Is Intel getting rid of the Atom brand and rebranding these as lower-tier Pentiums?

 

[Bouowmx]

The higher-power Atom-based processors with integrated GPU has been branded Celeron and Pentium since 2013, like Pentium N3510

Last time an Atom processor had integrated GPU for consumer-class computers was Cherry Trail (ex. x5-Z8300), from 2015. Since then, Atom has notably only been used for servers (ex. C3955).

 

[raghu78]

AMD A8-7410 @ 2.19 GHz @ 2.20 GHz (4C/4T, up to 2.5GHz, Puma+ architecture, Carrizo-L Codename, 28nm Manufacturing Technology) vs
Intel Pentium Silver N5000 @ 1.10 GHz (4C/4T, up to 2.7GHz, Goldmont Plus architecture, Gemini Lake Codename, 14nm Manufacturing Technology)

Geekbench 4.2.0 Tryout

Single-Core Score : 1 319 (64,09%) vs 2 058 (156,03%)
Multi-Core Score : 3391 (55,57%) vs 6102 (179,95%)

source: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/5321645?baseline=5315637

Jaguar/Puma is dead. AMD will most likely have a 2C/4T Zen APU in 2018. The question which remains to be answered - is it a dedicated die or salvage chips from RR ? Intel is going to have a tough time competing with a Zen APU at the low end.

 

[Dayman1225]

Jaguar/Puma is dead. AMD will most likely have a 2C/4T Zen APU in 2018. The question which remains to be answered - is it a dedicated die or salvage chips from RR ? Intel is going to have a tough time competing with a Zen APU at the low end.

Depending on the pricing I suspect Core M would be that competition, not Atom

 

[dark zero]

AMD A8-7410 @ 2.19 GHz @ 2.20 GHz (4C/4T, up to 2.5GHz, Puma+ architecture, Carrizo-L Codename, 28nm Manufacturing Technology) vs
Intel Pentium Silver N5000 @ 1.10 GHz (4C/4T, up to 2.7GHz, Goldmont Plus architecture, Gemini Lake Codename, 14nm Manufacturing Technology)

Geekbench 4.2.0 Tryout

Single-Core Score : 1 319 (64,09%) vs 2 058 (156,03%)
Multi-Core Score : 3391 (55,57%) vs 6102 (179,95%)

source: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/5321645?baseline=5315637

That multicore from AMD is inferior to Intel single one.. Then I remember that we are comparing a 28 nm chip with a 14 nm one. And I remember that AMD already killed the Carrizo line to Stoney Ridge... And the current rivals are Bristol Ridge until Raven Ridge appears.

 

[NTMBK]

That multicore from AMD is inferior to Intel single one.. Then I remember that we are comparing a 28 nm chip with a 14 nm one. And I remember that AMD already killed the Carrizo line to Stoney Ridge... And the current rivals are Bristol Ridge until Raven Ridge appears.

Eh? I think you misread that, 3391 > 2058...

 

[amd6502]

Eh? I think you misread that, 3391 > 2058...

Still, very impressive for a 6W chip. Puma/Jaguar is a pretty old slouch indeed (plud it was neglected); unless there is a miracle this is a discontinued line. I don't know how much Jaguar's efficiency gains were when they did the xbox 16nm port; probably not enough to compete with the N5000.

Is Atom too at the end of life? (I heard Xeon Phi is discontinued).

 

[bakyt115]

it is crazy that 2 core atom is same level as Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00 GHz

http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/5315634?baseline=5298765


I have a friend with E8400 as his mane machine for develop ( he is aspnet developer). And everything still very smooth.