Dual cores would be silly due to performance, 2C/2T is a huge NO today.
Mmm... and there are 4 of them.
Maybe the 1st one is the Octa Core going up to 3.5 Ghz single core and 3.2 Ghz all of them? because having 35W boost is higher than expecting. Is the Pentium Silver this time.
Dual cores would be silly due to performance, 2C/2T is a huge NO today.
There are quad Atoms too.OEMs don't seem to be discouraged at all from using the Celeron Atoms.
Depends on what you do. I don't have more than 5 tabs open. I honestly think a modern single core not being able to handle more than few browser tabs ridiculous as it shows how inefficient modern software has become. That's virtually zero progression since 20 years ago.
There are quad Atoms too.
Mmm... you mentioned the wattage versions, so... it might be possible that... the mobile Pentium Silver might be low clocked octa core (max. 3.0 Ghz single core and 2.5 Ghz multi one) while the desktop one goes full 3.5 Ghz at that PL?The mobile oriented Pentium Silver N6000 using Tremont has a PL2 of 20W. The laptops reviewed never reach that, so it might as well be a placeholder.
The 10W N6005 system out there is also configured to have PL2 of 10W.
I think the PL1 figure is more important. Since it has max config of 15W for the first part, it's plausible it's a full fledged two cluster, 8 core part. But it might also be a desktop chip.
Depends on what you do. I don't have more than 5 tabs open. I honestly think a modern single core not being able to handle more than few browser tabs ridiculous as it shows how inefficient modern software has become. That's virtually zero progression since 20 years ago.
Mmm... you mentioned the wattage versions, so... it might be possible that... the mobile Pentium Silver might be low clocked octa core (max. 3.0 Ghz single core and 2.5 Ghz multi one) while the desktop one goes full 3.5 Ghz at that PL?
While the Quad Core parts might be clocked higher (ex. 3.2 Ghz all cores) and if there are Dual Core parts it might go the full 3.5 Ghz.
About modern software I have to agree. But not 20 years ago, but just 10. Seems that the developers got more and more lazy with the easyness of the programming. However going Dual Core at this moment is not recommended at all. Not even basic POS deserves that.
Actually is impossible to see an octa core at 6 Watts. I was meaning to 15 Watts. It can reach that speed.I think with Gracemont it'll get to Pentium Gold territory. But based on the clocks Tremont is running at, an 8 core won't even reach 2GHz at 6W. Of course single thread they can go over 3GHz whether you are talking 6W or 15W.
Might all be managing expectations and the fact that we all got used to the performance. Once you use a faster system for few years, previous ones will feel slow.
By the way my parents use a Core 2 Quad Q9400. Before it was Core 2 Duo E6400. When I upgraded the chip for them, I honestly felt no difference.
The biggest upgrade will be going from HDD to SSD, and then upgrading the RAM.
Actually is impossible to see an octa core at 6 Watts. I was meaning to 15 Watts. It can reach that speed.
Meanwhile having more room for improvements are always good. The SSD upgrade is great, but the processor one leaves more room for future developments.
I don't know if they can reach 3GHz with 8 cores even at 15W PL1. Tremont 10W is at 3GHz under multi-threaded workloads like Cinebench but that's with 4 cores. Gracemont is 30% faster per clock plus they'll have to double cores.
Actually I was meaning:I don't know if they can reach 3GHz with 8 cores even at 15W PL1. Tremont 10W is at 3GHz under multi-threaded workloads like Cinebench but that's with 4 cores. Gracemont is 30% faster per clock plus they'll have to double cores.
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Unfortunately, all of their Celeron and Pentium (Silver) are all Atom-lineage CPUs, and they still have a bit of an IPC deficit. They just don't handle Windows Update very well, even with an SSD, in my experience (although, better an SSD than a HDD).I've also been buying a lot of Gateway laptops from Walmart lately. The prices are bonkers. It's like back to Netbook times haha. They have 11.6" Celerons for $89 right now:
Gracemont/ADL-N should be a very large upgrade over any N-series currently in the market. Looks like those Gateway laptops are running 2c Gemini Lake, so that would be a massive improvement.Unfortunately, all of their Celeron and Pentium (Silver) are all Atom-lineage CPUs, and they still have a bit of an IPC deficit. They just don't handle Windows Update very well, even with an SSD, in my experience (although, better an SSD than a HDD).
That said, I've purchased like 4 Gateway laptops within a span of as many weeks, all of them a relative bargain (if you can live with the fact that they are more or less "disposable" (non-upgradable, except for possibly the storage).
Unfortunately, all of their Celeron and Pentium (Silver) are all Atom-lineage CPUs, and they still have a bit of an IPC deficit. They just don't handle Windows Update very well, even with an SSD, in my experience (although, better an SSD than a HDD).
That said, I've purchased like 4 Gateway laptops within a span of as many weeks, all of them a relative bargain (if you can live with the fact that they are more or less "disposable" (non-upgradable, except for possibly the storage).
I was looking at those earlier today, also noticed they have Qualcomm Windows on Arm Laptops for $129. I wonder how bad those devices are for that price.I've also been buying a lot of Gateway laptops from Walmart lately. The prices are bonkers. It's like back to Netbook times haha. They have 11.6" Celerons for $89 right now:
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The 14" Pentium Silver laptops are $139:
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Man. 4 cores at 6 watts. What a time to be alive!
Early leaks shows its equivalent of current Android flagship, around 4000 geekbench score.It isn't the number of cores but the quality of the core; having said that i have no clue if this processor is any good. Hopefully it is faster than my phone cause the older processors kind of sucked.