The Intel Atom Thread

[ShintaiDK]

BT Venue Pro is what I will get I think (with 1080p).

 

[Shivansps]

I wonder if BT-M/BT-D supports dgpus, how many pci-e lines are in?

 

[bullzz]

looks like a bunch of announcements from dell.. even a $150 clovertrail android tablet

http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/2/4...r-venue-tablets-including-a-microsoft-surface

 

[Sweepr]

Venue Pro looks really interesting, they picked the best out of Surface RT and Surface Pro and put together in one package.

Starting at $499.99 when it goes on sale this November, the Venue 11 Pro comes standard with a custom-designed 10.8-inch 1080p IPS touchscreen, one of Intel's new Bay Trail Atom processors, 2GB of RAM, 32GB of storage, roughly 11 hours of battery life, and a full-size USB 3.0 port — in a 1.57 pound package that's just over 10 millimeters thick. But that's just the beginning, because you can outfit that same tablet with a Surface-like ultrathin fabric-mounted keyboard that doubles as a magnetic stand, or an Asus Transformer-like clamshell dock which adds a full-size keyboard and trackpad and an extra battery that adds several additional hours of runtime. Or, you can slot it into a $99 docking station that supports two external monitors and adds a host of ports. They're not nearly as fun and clicky as Microsoft's Surface blades, and that magnetic stand in particular felt a little flimsy, but they add plenty of options.

What's more, the internals are configurable as well: you can trade in that Atom processor for one of Intel's new fanless Core i5 Haswell chips, add up to 8GB of memory and 256GB of solid state storage, and have yourself the power of an ultrabook in a tablet package that lasts up to eight hours.

Also, bye bye Windows RT...

Conspicuously missing from Dell's lineup is any trace of Windows RT, the stripped-down version of Windows designed for ARM processors. Dell was the last remaining Windows RT supporter outside of Microsoft, at least until the company discontinued its XPS 10 last month.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Windows RT is stone dead, courtesy of Bay Trail.

 

[Abwx]

Still no official specs for thoses chips..???.

 

[SlimFan]

Still no official specs for thoses chips..???.

Which chips?

22nm Atom Processors on ARK

If you mean information on the Bay Trail CPUs, it looks like they are now on ARK. It ;ooks like these are listed as having full 64-bit support enabled. I think that answers one of the major questions people had.

It looks like the datasheet is still unavailable. :\

 

[Arachnotronic]

Oh, look at all of these DESIGN WINS. Ah, but it's not a Nexus or an iPad, guess Intel is doomed.

 

[Exophase]

Windows RT is stone dead, courtesy of Bay Trail.

WindowsRT was dead on arrival.

 

[Arachnotronic]

WindowsRT was dead on arrival.

Yeah. I've been saying that for ages now, but there are some that believe that a version of Windows 8.1 without legacy compatibility and peripheral compatibility at the same/higher prices as the full Windows 8.1 counterparts is going to succeed.

 

[makken]

ASUS Transformer Book T100 Official Product Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYDDrvBKW6Q

I like what I'm seeing there, but I don't really care for the transformer/tablet aspect of it. Is there a laptop version? preferably with more ram?

 

[krumme]

Yeah. I've been saying that for ages now, but there are some that believe that a version of Windows 8.1 without legacy compatibility and peripheral compatibility at the same/higher prices as the full Windows 8.1 counterparts is going to succeed.

Agree. Only ms could get that idea. That someone bought their win 8 product because of the quality in itself.
Win quality is about compatability and prior experience. I would like full office in my phone. But i get 95% of my office need now on android for work.
But its tied to b2b market. And its the consumer market that is driving now. And especialy the low end. Everythink in the soc is important. Ms and Intel simple is in a bad situation here regardless of gpu/cpu performance.

 

[ShintaiDK]

WindowsRT was dead on arrival.

Only MS doesnt know yet.

 

[monstercameron]

dont you think that windowsRT would work if it weren't so restricted?
Like an arm based replica of the current x86 landscape?

<dreaming>Also MS could lead to standardization of all these various arm chips, were they are swappable using the same socket or upgradable...</dreaming>

 

[ShintaiDK]

dont you think that windowsRT would work if it weren't so restricted?
Like an arm based replica of the current x86 landscape?

<dreaming>Also MS could lead to standardization of all these various arm chips, were they are swappable using the same socket or upgradable...</dreaming>

No.

 

[Nothingness]

dont you think that windowsRT would work if it weren't so restricted?
Like an arm based replica of the current x86 landscape?

<dreaming>Also MS could lead to standardization of all these various arm chips, were they are swappable using the same socket or upgradable...</dreaming>

The only thing that ties people to Windows is legacy apps, and if you removed any restriction from Windows RT on ARM that wouldn't bring you x86 legacy.

I am slightly disappointed that the $500 Venue 11 Pro doesn't seem to come with a keyboard. And 32 GB of storage...

 

[Imouto]

Oh, look at all of these DESIGN WINS. Ah, but it's not a Nexus or an iPad, guess Intel is doomed.

Look at these PRICES!

 

[SiliconWars]

Nobody at Intel or Dell can actually believe these stand any kind of a chance. Good at half the price, but $300 (1280x720, probably the slower Atom) and $500 lol who are they trying to kid?

 

[sontin]

At least Dell thinks they have a better chance with Atom than with Temash. :lol:

 

[SiliconWars]

Dell in exclusive Intel shock?

And you probably really missed the point that Temash is selling more in craptops. Explain to me why AMD would want to join Intel and Nvidia losing money hand over fist in the tablet market again?

 

[podspi]

I think if Bay Trail didn't turn out the way it did, WinRT had a chance. I like the Windows 8 interface on a tablet, as do most of the people I've shown it to. Heck, a lot of people who have complained to me about Windows 8 say that they finally get it once they get to use it on a touch interface (still don't like using it with the mouse though).

But it looks like BT is going to have similar battery life, similar performance, and similar prices as its ARM competitors. And if that is the case, Windows 8 is strictly a better product than WinRT.

 

[krumme]

At least Dell thinks they have a better chance with Atom than with Temash. :lol:

Haha. Yeaa and bt is clearly a better choice here. But man, even before i saw the prices, i thougt of how this could be profitable. Who excactly is going to buy those devices? It makes no sense in my head. Tons of the same tablets. It even worse than crap 15.6 notebook market. The difference beeing there is no customers.
Its a business nightmare !!! Drowning in win 8 tablet. Arggggg.

 

[jdubs03]

I don't think $499 for the Venue 11 Pro is that horrible pricing wise, but that is if and only if it comes with a keyboard (I'm kind of fuzzy if it does or not). All legacy applications are available if needed and the Z3770 is the top performer compared to its competition (total/ and per watt).

If it includes Office, that increase the value proposition considerably, and eventually you'll see discounts long before Airmont is released (maybe announced). I was hoping that it would've been $399 myself but alas it isn't and I'll wait to see some information on Airmont.

But yeah Bay Trail killed RT. However with Microsoft changing their ways that advantage might not be as clear as we chug into the future.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Entire specs for the BT Venue 11 Pro.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Dell in exclusive Intel shock?

And you probably really missed the point that Temash is selling more in craptops. Explain to me why AMD would want to join Intel and Nvidia losing money hand over fist in the tablet market again?

AMD's Temash (2 core edition) is aimed at tablets. Problem is, it ain't getting any design wins ;-)