The Intel Atom Thread

[Shivansps]

In WoW i need to test the exact same condition to be sure, flying kills FPS easily.
It seems to be around the same on both


BTW, we also need to remember that T100 has DC, not all of them have DC, becarefull on that.

 

[Sweepr]

Dell Venue 8 Pro 32GB for $250 right now!

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Venue-Pro...ll+venue+8+pro

Thats a full Windows 8.1 tablet with quad-core Bay Trail Z3740D, insane value. If only I lived in the US...

 

[bullzz]

wow. $250 is really cheap for that

 

[cbn]

Dell Venue 8 Pro 32GB for $250 right now!

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Venue-Pro...ll+venue+8+pro

Thats a full Windows 8.1 tablet with quad-core Bay Trail Z3740D, insane value. If only I lived in the US...

It also includes Office Home & Student 2013.

So with Windows 8.1 + Office, how much space will be left on the 32GB eMMC?

 

[cbn]

Interesting, thanks!

Another thing that bothers me on tablets is backlighting, it's tiring and it bothers my wife at night I'm considering a dedicated e-book reader such as Kindle Paperwhite.

This is getting off-topic, so I'll stop here

Yes, I definitely agree e-ink is better than conventional screens for e-books.

 

[Shivansps]

I heard somewhere that the Dell Venue 8 Pro is on single channel.

 

[cbn]

I heard somewhere that the Dell Venue 8 Pro is on single channel.

Yes, that is right.

It has the "D" processor:

Processor: Intel® Atom™ processor Z3740D (2MB Cache, up to 1.8GHz Quad-Core)

Memory: 2GB Single Channel DDR3L-RS 1600MHz

 

[paperwastage]

some DoA complaints on amazon for the dell venue 8 pro (1star reviews)

think Microsoft needs to talk more with their partners to avoid these problems.... how can you have first-boot BSOD/instability problems? their QA/QC department must have been on budget cuts

 

[Tsavo]

It also includes Office Home & Student 2013.

So with Windows 8.1 + Office, how much space will be left on the 32GB eMMC?

12GB, some people are reporting they can get to 17-19GB free by chopping out some fluff.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

Dell Venue 8 Pro 32GB for $250 right now!

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Venue-Pro...ll+venue+8+pro

Thats a full Windows 8.1 tablet with quad-core Bay Trail Z3740D, insane value. If only I lived in the US...

you might want to get a pair of glasses instead, it says $299/349, not 249

 

[monstercameron]

seems like demands forced a price increase to $489 http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-T1...d_sim_sbs_pc_2

 

[cbn]

you might want to get a pair of glasses instead, it says $299/349, not 249

When I checked earlier today, it actually said $252.

So the price was increased sometime in the last 4 hours.

 

[Shivansps]

14nm Airmont Atoms will have Intel 8th Generation Graphics?

http://wccftech.com/intel-atom-soc-cherry-trail-willow-trail/

Thats is exactly why i whould not buy a BT device, im kind of expecting that to happen on 14nm and we are maybe 8 months away...

 

[frozentundra123456]

some DoA complaints on amazon for the dell venue 8 pro (1star reviews)

think Microsoft needs to talk more with their partners to avoid these problems.... how can you have first-boot BSOD/instability problems? their QA/QC department must have been on budget cuts

Happened to me once with a laptop. Totally would not even turn on out of the box. I couldnt figure how that could happen. They must at least turn it on before shipping it. Maybe it was damaged in shipping or something.

 

[bullzz]

ya, they have increased the prices now. 250 for that tablet was killer pricing

 

[monstercameron]

http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-bay-trail-vs-arm/62551.html

 

[Nothingness]

http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-bay-trail-vs-arm/62551.html

I love this:

Intel wanted to media to use the Principled Technologies’s WebXPRT benchmarking suite, which is known to be a benchmarking platform “friendly” to Intel’s processors

Given Piednoel push on Twitter for reviewers to use Principled Technologies benchmarks, there is little doubt it is biased. I'm glad some reviewers didn't listen to Intel.

That being said, the article is wrong about BT frequencies. In most benchmarks turbo will be on which means 2.4 GHz for the Intel ref tablet and 1.8 GHz for ASUS T100.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I love this:

Given Piednoel push on Twitter for reviewers to use Principled Technologies benchmarks, there is little doubt it is biased. I'm glad some reviewers didn't listen to Intel.

That being said, the article is wrong about BT frequencies. In most benchmarks turbo will be on which means 2.4 GHz for the Intel ref tablet and 1.8 GHz for ASUS T100.

Well, the main complaint seemed win8, which I would take over android any day. As for android, dell is advertising bay trail android tablets for sale now, although I don't see much purpose to it.

 

[Homeles]

14nm Airmont Atoms will have Intel 8th Generation Graphics?

http://wccftech.com/intel-atom-soc-cherry-trail-willow-trail/

Thats is exactly why i whould not buy a BT device, im kind of expecting that to happen on 14nm and we are maybe 8 months away...

That article is entirely speculative, and the author seems to not be much of an expert (fabrication shrinkage for tick and die shrinkage for tock -- if anything, the dies get bigger with a tock). The guy also has a unibrow, and we can safely discredit that article based on that single fact.

Still, it's not too much of a stretch to think that Cherry Trail will have a bigger emphasis on graphics, and that it will probably use Gen 8. He's pulling a lot of those numbers out of his rear, though.

 

[dahorns]

http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-bay-trail-vs-arm/62551.html

Odd article. It talks a ton about theoretical problems that Bay Trail has, but doesn't really point to any concrete evidence that they exist.

For example:

Eventually Intel will have to ask themselves: what’s the point? As benchmarks show, Bay Trail is a technically promising platform, but its execution thus far has almost been relatively lackluster.

This statement has zero support in the article. Nadda, zilch. Not to say there haven't been problems, but this is just poor journalism.

I also am somewhat confused by the reported benchmarks for the t100. It lists Cinebench at .79, yet Anand's review reported it at 1.48. Maybe I'm missing something there.

 

[Homeles]

Odd article. It talks a ton about theoretical problems that Bay Trail has, but doesn't really point to any concrete evidence that they exist.

For example:



This statement has zero support in the article. Nadda, zilch. Not to say there haven't been problems, but this is just poor journalism.

I also am somewhat confused by the reported benchmarks for the t100. It lists Cinebench at .79, yet Anand's review reported it at 1.48. Maybe I'm missing something there.

They were using the T100 for their .79 score, which AnandTech managed to get a 1.24 with. The Tech Report received identical scores to AnandTech's.

I think it's pretty safe to say he's not ready to hang with the big boys yet, and that his opinions and findings can be safely discarded.

 

[frozentundra123456]

They were using the T100 for their .79 score, which AnandTech managed to get a 1.24 with. The Tech Report received identical scores to AnandTech's.

I think it's pretty safe to say he's not ready to hang with the big boys yet, and that his opinions and findings can be safely discarded.

I think the big problem is that, as much as I dislike it, android is firmly established in the tablet/smartphone arena. I think a lot of younger people who have grown up with smartphones will not see a need for a windows tablet. They are perfectly satisfied with Android/IoS. They even have a degree of coolness attached to them.

Personally, I really see no need for a windows phone, and would live with Android there. But for a tablet or anything larger, I would never buy another Android device. (I have a 7 in acer iconia tablet, and it is slow, slow, slow, and extremely buggy, so my perceptions of Android have been tarnished by that, obviously).

 

[dahorns]

They were using the T100 for their .79 score, which AnandTech managed to get a 1.24 with. The Tech Report received identical scores to AnandTech's.

I think it's pretty safe to say he's not ready to hang with the big boys yet, and that his opinions and findings can be safely discarded.

You're right. I pulled the wrong number from the review, in either case it diverges substantially from the number he reported.

 

[Nothingness]

As for android, dell is advertising bay trail android tablets for sale now, although I don't see much purpose to it.

Where? As far as I know Android is not ready to run on Bay Trail as Intel is late in developing the required stuff. Aren't you rather talking about CloverTrail+ Android?

And yes there certainly is no point in that kind of devices with low perf, except perhaps that's where the market is heading?

 

[paperwastage]

Where? As far as I know Android is not ready to run on Bay Trail as Intel is late in developing the required stuff. Aren't you rather talking about CloverTrail+ Android?

And yes there certainly is no point in that kind of devices with low perf, except perhaps that's where the market is heading?

Dell Venue 7/8

http://www.slashgear.com/dell-venue...mpete-for-low-cost-tablet-supremacy-20302184/

would like to get a system dump to see what Dell needed to do to load android.... maybe steal the intel gpu driver