The Intel Atom Thread

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krumme

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Did Intel Just Win the Next Nexus 7?



There is a rumor going around that Intel (NASDAQ: INTC ) just won the system-on-chip socket for the next-generation Google (NASDAQ: GOOG ) Nexus 7. While this is unconfirmed, it is worth taking a deeper look into two fundamental questions:

How likely is it that this is true?
The rumor claims that Google, via its hardware partner ASUS, will be using one of Intel's Atom Z3000 series processors. In order for this to be plausible, the Z3000 chips need to be a significant leap ahead of the Qualcomm (NASDAQ: QCOM ) Snapdragon S4 Pro found in the 2013 Nexus 7. From a CPU power/performance standpoint, a quad-core Z3740 or Z3770 should be meaningfully faster than the current-generation Nexus 7. As far as graphics goes, the higher-end Z3000 chips should be faster than the Snapdragon S4 Pro but a bit behind the absolute latest-and-greatest Snapdragon 800 and its recently announced successor, the Snapdragon 805. From a technical standpoint, this makes sense.

However, what's more interesting is that the prior two Nexus devices have been designed and built by ASUS -- one of Intel's best partners in the PC space. If ASUS is hired to do the third-generation Nexus 7, this lends credence to this rumor. After all, while Google has the final say in what hardware ends up in this device, it is likely that Intel could have pushed very hard to win this deal.

More here: www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/12/26/did-intel-just-win-the-next-nexus-7.aspx#.Ur2STbTpWBS

The next nexus 7 will run Windows !
 

cbn

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Couldn't find a picture of an open ended PCI-E x1 slot, but here is what an open ended PCI-E x4 slot looks like:

 

NTMBK

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I would have preferred an mSATA port myself; putting an SSD right onto the motherboard mSATA slot means you can make smaller form factor builds.
 

cbn

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I would have preferred an mSATA port myself; putting an SSD right onto the motherboard mSATA slot means you can make smaller form factor builds.

Yep, Neither the ECS or Biostar J1800 boards have that feature.

(The ECS does have Mini-PCI express x1 for wifi/bluetooth though. Otherwise both boards are spec'd strikingly similar....even the number of usb ports/headers and rear panel I/O is the same.)

http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=688#spec

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pr...goryID=1&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=17&LanID=0
 

cbn

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This Asrock thin mini-itx Bay Trail board has mSATA (and two SATA 3 Gbps ports), in addition to Mini-PCI Express x1 for Wifi/Bluetooth:

http://www.asrock.com/ipc/overview.asp?Model=IMB-151





I'm not sure if it will be easy to find though (or even supported by MS Windows) as it was classified under "Industrial" at Asrock website.
 
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Ajay

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He means an open ended PCI-E slot x1 so a cheap PCI-E x16 card (for example) could still fit in there.

Ah, I see. Though, that's pretty limited bandwidth for an x16 card.

I would have preferred an mSATA port myself; putting an SSD right onto the motherboard mSATA slot means you can make smaller form factor builds.

Yeah, that would make a lot of sense. Stick the OS on it and toss in a larger HDD for a media center or home server.
 

Shivansps

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yes, but its 2.0, thats already twice the bandwidth that ION 2 where getting on old atoms boards, i have no doubt that a GT630 will give a nice boost over the BT IGP, even on x1 2.0 pci-e.

Also, no dgpus means this cant be upgraded to support h265 decoding later on.
 

Homeles

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The Bay Trail Pentiums didn't drop in price, no? Someone must be buying them, but it sure as hell isn't the consumer market. These parts are pretty much priced in line with high end Xeons, in a relative sense.
 

jpiniero

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Yeah, I'm really surprised. I haven't been following the thread in detail, but I thought BT would have cost 1/2 what it does

Intel's going to (try to) upsell Atom into the Celeron and Pentium brands. It might even completely replace Core in it. Now those chips would be tiny, and if they could actually get $100 for it, that would be decent margins for Intel.
 

SiliconWars

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There's no way these prices are even remotely true, how can they be? I wonder where these numbers come from.
 
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