wow such a wide selection of baytrail parts, seems the partners prefer these over even haswel celerons.
Apple A7 is 102mm2, exactly the same as Intel Silvermont(BayTrail).
It's exactly what they are stating. It's been unofficially known for some time that the density of Intel's wires has been not as good as TSMC. AFAIK it's just been a cost tradeoff for Intel for multiple patterning the metal layers to get the density. Also wires get lower performance the smaller they are so density optimized isn't always the best when it comes to performance.
Apple A7 is 102mm2, exactly the same as Intel Silvermont(BayTrail).
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Their 22nm process is denser than TSMC's 28nm process (not sure if that's what you were asking).
I believe intel optimizes for performance, not area. Seems to be worthwhile to them given their high margins and the relatively low chip sizes (compare ivy/haswell to trinity/richland).
I believe intel optimizes for performance, not area.).
No kidding. Intel's processes do 4ghz, TSMC is at 2.5ghz
The actual CPU core (not the whole die) is MUCH larger.
So 102mm^2 for a dual core A7 compared to 102mm^2 for a quad core Baytrail. That must mean that Intel's design is half the size right?!
Sorry for the extreme case of sarcasm, but attempting to refute the statement that the A7 is much larger than Silvermont with respect to core area by providing total SoC die size kinda deserves such.
GloFo is capable of 4.7 ghz, so clearly they must be #1.
Nor really inferior, their process just has a worse density. It doesn't tell you anything about other characteristics.Am I wrong or Intel is admitting to have an inferior process than TSMC(on area scaling) at 20/22nm? And forecasting to be better at 16/14nm?
Source? That just doesn't mesh with published information from either fab (or that chart).Intel told not long ago they are denser.
No kidding. Intel's processes do 4ghz, TSMC is at 2.5ghz
Okay, this is a bit of a train wreck. I'm going to assume that jpniero's being facetious, but in case he isn't or neither of you are or whatever, Intel does have higher Idsats at lower Ioffs than any other competing fab. Their bulk processes have even historically outperformed IBM's PDSOI. With their last two nodes, Intel has been less dense than competing fabs at the same node label (e.g. 32nm vs 32nm), but that has not always been the case.GloFo is capable of 4.7 ghz, so clearly they must be #1.
Source? That just doesn't mesh with published information from either fab (or that chart).
It looks like he was talking about Intel 22nm vs the competition's 20nm.
Microsoft wasn't the holdup.interesting. looks like MS has finally enabled 64bit on baytrail
Microsoft wasn't the holdup.
That's not the case:Actually they were. Baytrail can run any 64bit version of windows. People have installed them on Venue 8 Pros.
But only 32bit win 8 offers connected standby and presumably only 32bit is eligible for the reduced licensing fees afforded 8" tablets.
It appears MS is tightly controlling the mini tablet category like they did netbooks. The whole batch of 8 inchers use 800 resolution.
There is a build of Windows 8.1 that supports connected standby that is available right now, however there are some additional hardware requirements that have to be met by the OEM.
This is according to Anand on his live mobile show, at roughly ~1:02:00.
That's not the case:
MSI Bay Trail-D (J18001) sub $60 due sometime this month
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A quad core for $10 more is supposed to come out shortly afterward.http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pr...yID=1&TypeID=46&MenuID=17&childid=M_7&LanID=0
PCWorld.fr @ Google Translator said:If you believe ComputerWorld , manufacturers of phones and tablets that want to get the most SoC Atom 64-bit generation Bay Trail will be based on the Android 4.4 kernel (KitKat) x86 64bit Intel has itself developed. The founder puts in some internal documentation Atom performance 64-bit before, eg, that photo editing is accelerated by 20%, publishing podcast 44%, creating a slideshow of 6 % and sharing photos of 4%, all this over a similar 32-bit chip.
Here's something a bit less vague. Check slide 6. Just to warn you, it's a straight PDF download link.Pretty vague.
Are these hardware requirements imposed by MS on the OEMs? like screen resolution?
There is now a 1080p 8" tablet announced, but its got a higher price point and a z3770. Probably not a coincidence.