Why exactly does such require Airmont to improve? What's known about A57 thus far implies it will only have a ~30% performance boost over A15, which would be quite good if it maintained the same power consumption. However as A15 demonstrated ARM isn't necessarily great at efficiency when they're pursuing higher levels of performance, so A57 may well continue that trend.
Still, if there is anything good from all this is confirmation that 2 lanes can be paired to make x2, I hope OEM choose to use it if planning to add a 820M on a BT device.
I have also been considering the Avoton C2750. 2.4GHz Octa-core, seems like it would make for a good game sever and a light gaming machine with a hd 7750.
http://www.asrock.com/server/overview.asp?Model=C2750D4I
Not sure why you would do that given the price. That board runs ~ $350. Looking at its specs, its clearly meant to drive a NAS (lots of drive ports, dual network ports, only an x8 PCIe slot).
An A10-7850K will cost a lot less and benchmarks better - even in heavily threaded loads. Looking at geekbench 3 - the Avoton runs around 7300 which is slightly below A10-6800k levels.
Would have been a lot more interesting chip if someone had put it into a consumer oriented board.
Following recent hints that new versions of the Baytrail-M processors would be launched Intel have confirmed by publishing details of the new student-focused platform ahead of IDF. Its called BTS14 and its aimed at lowering the cost of Android and Windows tablet and 2-in-1 products.
A number of Pentium N3000 CPUs will be launched which include improved CPU and GPU frequency over previous Baytrail-M parts and support for Intel Quick Sync, the hardware video encoder usable through the Intel Media SDK. A set of Celeron N2000-series CPUs will also feature Intel Quick Sync support, increased memory speed over previous models and in some cases a CPU clock boost.
CPUs known to be under the new BTS14 banner are:
Intel Pentium N3530 processor. 2.17Ghz-2.58Ghz. GPU 896Mhz. 7.5W TDP
Intel Celeron N2830 processor. 2.17Ghz-2.42Ghz. GPU 750Mhz. 7.5W TDP
Intel Celeron N2930 processor, 1.83Ghz-2.16Ghz. GPU 854Mhz. 7.5W TDP
Intel Celeron N2807 processor. 1.58Ghz-2.16Ghz. GPU 750Mhz. 4.3W TDP
Support is also being added for lower-cost eMMC SSDs and SDIO-connected WiFi modules.
I think they're doing the right thing. They probably want to keep their Core ix line ''fat margins'' with Broadwell-Y, while Atom aims at cheaper ARM-competitors. Lets give them some credit, we've seem huge gains in the Clover Trail -> Bay Trail transition and who knows what comes next?
Atom is too underpowered for the next process. At 14nm you can fit 2c4t broadwell into a tablet and have similar power characteristics as an ipad. But atom is just too slow. A Z3770 scores roughly the same as an AMD E450 in single threaded operations, which is what sets the tone of a device's general performance. It is slower than a Celeron SU2300 in terms of pure integer performance. It is basically just a pentium 4 2.0GHz with AES, AVX, etc added to it. Its just not enough. Javascript performance will be atrocious, leading most users to be frustrated with it. If intel doesnt ditch atom and start promoting its Y series (pentium 3560Y for example), then it is simply going to be eliminated from the mobile market. It makes much more sense to shrink and integrate something like a 3560Y than it does to try and make the Z3770 faster.
I say that because, it isn't just the switch from A15 to A57 that Cherry Trail will be competing with but the top-tier QCOMM + Samsung offerings that are at 20nm too. I agree that A57 could push that power-envelope, but that helps when the node is decreased.
New mirco-arch plus 14nm will likely give CPU and GPU dominance. I'm not sure that just 14nm will be enough. It should be pretty interesting to see how it plays out.
The big jump is on the GPU side where they go from middling to very good by going from 4 ivy bridge gen cores to 16 Haswell gen cores.
The big problems are that in and off itself, Cherry doesn't drop the platform cost much which is still higher than that of the ARM commodity whitebox guys and that Intel still lags on how much they integrate on their SOC vs ARM so their PCB's are still physically larger and are more expensive.
I have to agree. Bay Trail is a great product for tablets, which is clearly what it's aimed at. From what I can tell, it's reinvigorated the Win 8.1 tablet platform to some degree. If bay trail had been around for the Win 8 launch, things might be going differently at MS.
If they can pull out another 20% - 30% in CPU performance and maybe 50% in iGPU from Cherry Trail, and keep the same or lower power profile, then I think it will make Win 8 tablets a reasonable desktop replacement for the average consumer.
I don't think that will hurt overall sales as much as some believe. Desktops tend to get upgraded and last a long time. Laptops, less so. Tablets, even less. So they sell a cheaper chip, but people turn over their machines more frequently.
This is the way the industry is going and they really have no choice but to make their best shot; anything less and they risk being relegated to server farms / data centers, and eventually not even that.
I've been wondering about the extra die size of Cherry Trail's IGPU vs....what Intel could have done with increasing integration?
16 EUs.....I am skeptical the GPU really needs to be that big, but maybe I am wrong?
According to all the information I've seen Cherry Trail is actually going to be based off Broadwell graphics, not Haswell. Which is another indication of how seriously Intel is taking this market now eh? Sadly we still have to wait quite some time before we get to see how much of an improvement Gen8 graphics are compared to Haswell's Gen7.5.
Intel told the BOM of Bay Trail would drop significantly in 2014, so I don't think Cherry Trail will have any BOM issues, and I haven't heard Intel talking about contra-revenue for other platforms than Bay Trail. We'll see.
It's not going to be 20-30% on the CPU side unless it's an incredibly memory centric measurement. It will be a substantial gain on the power side however.
That's supposedly the point contra-revenue addresses, and something they want to gradually eliminate it, the point of nil by 14nm(Cherry Trail+) timeframe.Hm. What I saw/heard was that the BOM was the smallest of gains.
The GPU side is going to be easily more than 50% in most scenarios,
Kirk Skaugen, senior vice president at Intel, disclosed that a chip code-named Braswell will be the follow-on to a version of the Bay Trail processor now found in low-cost devices like Chromebooks and sub-$500 Windows PCs.
Braswell will be a system-on-a-chip, aka SoC, built on the company's next-generation 14-nanometer manufacturing process. SoCs typically squeeze most of a device's core electronics onto one piece of silicon.