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sequoia464

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With Office included, that is a sweet deal. Too bad I already have a tablet. I am not really happy with it since it is a cheap android one, but cant really justify buying another one. I wonder how much SSD space if left after windows.

I have 18 gigs available on a fresh 8.1 install on a 32 gb tablet. Looks like you would have around 50GB on a 64 gb machine. 8.1 looks to have been trimmed down and supposedly the winSxS file issues have been addressed somewhat.

Edit: I got rid of hibernate and reduced the pagefile memory on my tablet to reclaim some of my limited space. Big mistake buying a 32gb windows machine.
 
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I have 18 gigs available on a fresh 8.1 install on a 32 gb tablet. Looks like you would have around 500GB on a 64 gb machine. 8.1 looks to have been trimmed down and supposedly the winSxS file issues have been addressed somewhat.

Edit: I got rid of hibernate and reduced the pagefile memory on my tablet to reclaim some of my limited space. Big mistake buying a 32gb windows machine.
The 32gb seems to come with a secondary 8gb flags memory for recovery (on mobile, hard to link... But search for lilliputing Linux on t100, someone posted in the comments about the disk partition and the recovery was on a separate disk

Post a screens hot of your disk management screen?
 

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btw, Asus T100 64GB is selling at $350 @ Microcenter, available shipping ($6 + tax) or in-store pickup... it's $50 off MSRP

http://www.microcenter.com/product/422748/T100TA-C1-GR_Transformer_Book_Tablet

Wow that's awesome. I already have a 500t (and use the digitizer a lot) so I have no reason to buy one of these cheaper ~10" Windows tablets, but these are the price points they need to hit to get major adoption.


If they have 8" Windows tablets around $200 this holiday season, that I might be interested in to replace my aging OG Kindle Fire...
 

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The 32gb seems to come with a secondary 8gb flags memory for recovery (on mobile, hard to link... But search for lilliputing Linux on t100, someone posted in the comments about the disk partition and the recovery was on a separate disk

Post a screens hot of your disk management screen?

Actually just commenting on windows tablets in general, mine is a HP clovertrail Elitepad with the recovery removed, keep that on a thumb drive.

Headed to work right now, will try to post the disk management screen this evening if I can figure out how.
 
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Wow that's awesome. I already have a 500t (and use the digitizer a lot) so I have no reason to buy one of these cheaper ~10" Windows tablets, but these are the price points they need to hit to get major adoption.


If they have 8" Windows tablets around $200 this holiday season, that I might be interested in to replace my aging OG Kindle Fire...

with all the wintel tablets cumming out at cheap prices, its going to put some hurt on the android tabs that theyre trying to sell for 400-500. they need to start having lte on everything. my phone>>anything with a bigger screen but no lte
 

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Actually just commenting on windows tablets in general, mine is a HP clovertrail Elitepad with the recovery removed, keep that on a thumb drive.

Headed to work right now, will try to post the disk management screen this evening if I can figure out how.

if you see it as a different partition, look at the Device Manager and hunt for that secondary device, post some logs/screenshots from the device properties etc/

this was teh screenshot
http://imgur.com/a/9lWMW

thanks
 

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if you see it as a different partition, look at the Device Manager and hunt for that secondary device, post some logs/screenshots from the device properties etc/

this was teh screenshot
http://imgur.com/a/9lWMW

thanks

Unfortunately I did not have that extra 7 GB for recovery, my recovery was partitioned out of the 28 GB disk 0.

I'm wondering if all manufacturers are adding that extra memory for the recovery partition with the newer tablets - mine was a joke - when I first started using the tablet think I was down to 6-7 GB free even with my programs and data on a SD card. This looks like a big improvement
 

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Shivansps

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it's a 50 euro difference (b/w 64GB + 500GB and 64GB), so USD $70

that could buy you a 2.5" spinning platter... dunno if there's space on the current dock to fit a 2.5" spinning platter

Time to find out... it can be open?
 
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In order to use a 500GB sata drive, a USB to Sata Bridge is needed, if that thing is present someone should already noticed it because it shows up under disk devices on manager, even if there is no sata disk plugged in, so its likely that HDD version come with a diferent PCB on the dock.
 
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In order to use a 500GB sata drive, a USB to Sata Bridge is needed, if that thing is present someone should already noticed it because it shows up under disk devices on manager, even if there is no sata disk plugged in, so its likely that HDD version come with a diferent PCB on the dock.

unless there's a USB header on the dock, but the current versions are missing the USB->SATA circuit board
 

Shivansps

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Look at how much PCB are they wasting on nothing just for that USB3 on there, that is intended for the sata part.

Still, expect the battery life to take a considerable hit with all of that in place, a harddisk on/off funtion whould be great too.

The USB hard disk on the T100 dock could be the number 1 mod for a lot of people, if there is enoght room inside to fit a hard disk it will be trivial at best.


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and solder the cable to the USB3 pins inside if skillfull enoght, a on/off switch on the case.
 
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Intel: Bay Trail Systems Selling Out

This is a simple observation, but one that I believe is incredibly relevant and powerful. The first commercially available system based on Intel's (INTC) low power "Bay Trail" system-on-chip, the ASUS T100, is selling like hot-cakes. Indeed, on Amazon.com (AMZN), the systems have sold out for a second time since the device became available for purchase on Oct. 18.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/177...s-selling-out?source=ipadportfolioapp_twitter
 

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tbh i am more interested in the tegra4 chromebook. so far samsung was the only ARM based chromebook. interesting to see who will be using tegra4
 

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this looks like it will be retarded. they need cheap chrome books with i3, not more of this underpowered sheet. why would you buy something chromeos with slow arm or atom for $279 when you could get a pentium or i3 windows laptop for $350. theyre just gonna build a bunch of stuff nobody wants, like that recent hp chromebook with exynos, dat sheet is 1998 level computing
 

Shivansps

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Acer C720 is at $250, i dont think prices will be much lower than that, its likely to provide longer battery.
 

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Play briefly with a transformer 100 today. Was not happy with it, it is better than my clovertrail dell latitude and while it wasn't SLOW, it was not a place I would be happy with it. It took too long to load a 1080p quicktime file. That is probably the emmc storage and not the cpu and gpu, but it is still not what I would want for a laptop replacement.

With a non windows os and the same loading time I would probably not complain, but when you are used to windows 7 / 8 with a ssd it was quite noticeable the difference in speed.
 

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I read some reviews where people said the T100 had some "lags" as if it was going into some form of very low power mode every 10 seconds. Perhaps some too aggressive power saving settings?
 

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Play briefly with a transformer 100 today. Was not happy with it, it is better than my clovertrail dell latitude and while it wasn't SLOW, it was not a place I would be happy with it. It took too long to load a 1080p quicktime file. That is probably the emmc storage and not the cpu and gpu, but it is still not what I would want for a laptop replacement.

With a non windows os and the same loading time I would probably not complain, but when you are used to windows 7 / 8 with a ssd it was quite noticeable the difference in speed.

So you're surprised that Bay Trail doesn't match a core CPU with a SSD. Is this a joke or what? Most of these products are 300$, maybe your expectations are the real problem...
 
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