its funny I can't get bioshock to run
maybe its a sloppy port of bioshock? fps and texture resolution on that look like its running on a ps2
That seems to be a common problem. Just like the HL2/Portal ports to Tegra it just goes to show that x86 might get a huge boost in performance simply from being so familiar and common to game devs. With TK1 and hopefully more standards-compliant designs coming out that might change- but for now the T100 is hands down the best gaming tablet/convertible in my opinion.
Just got home and downloading bioshock- should have something posted on my results tonight or early tomorrow.
That seems to be a common problem. Just like the HL2/Portal ports to Tegra it just goes to show that x86 might get a huge boost in performance simply from being so familiar and common to game devs. With TK1 and hopefully more standards-compliant designs coming out that might change- but for now the T100 is hands down the best gaming tablet/convertible in my opinion.
Just got home and downloading bioshock- should have something posted on my results tonight or early tomorrow.
Sweepr said:Playing these games on its native platform must have some advantages because both Tegra 4 and especially Apple A7 outperform Bay Trail-T in pure graphics benchmarks. What do you guys think?
I don't think that's it. Bioshock for iOS does need to run on two year old OpenGL ES2 hardware in a smartphone form factor, so there is only so much that they can do here. Tegra 4 is also limited with it's OpenGL ES2 hardware.
idevices with A7 should have GLES3 and metal apis...
Bioshock for iOS is meant to run on A6, A6X, A7 and future SoC's. A6 and A6X have OpenGL ES2 GPU's.
surface pro is pretty beefy.
Yea, that is my problem with the surface as well. For the price, they really should include the keyboard.
Not a great screen though. Sure it is not a bad screen, but still not a great one. It is definitely a screen you expect on a $300 tablet, and not a $400 to $500 one.
Yeah yeah, eventually they will get it right, but I want my ferrari right now and i want it to cost only 1 dollar, maybe 2.
I have to love google translate "it does its thing but good" !!
Anyway, I am not clear on what Merrifield is. Is the modem integrated or still separate? Is it Bay Trail? Looks interesting, but not sure the point of atom for android.
When we looked at AMDs Kabini platform, AMD in its press materials pitted their high end APU against the Pentium J2900 in terms of price and performance. The only issue from the reviewers standpoint was the availability of the Pentium J2900 in a retail product. At the time, the J2900 was found only in OEM devices, or a single system was found through Google Shopping. Fast forward a few months and we are now seeing a small wave of J2900 motherboards coming to market for custom home builds. ASRock look poised to release the Q2900-ITX and Q2900M to meet that demand. [...]
An unannounced tablet called the Lenovo Miix 3-830 showed up at the Postel website recently. Thats the Indonesian equivalent of the FCC, and its the same place we recently saw the first mention of a Lenovo Yoga 3 Pro tablet.
There arent many details about the tablet at the moment, but the name and model number suggest itll be a next-gen 8 inch tablet with Windows software.
The Lenovo Miix 2 tablet was a low-cost model with an 8 inch, 1280 x 800 pixel display, 2GB of RAM, at least 32GB of storage, and an Intel Atom Z3740 processor. While Lenovo no longer sells the tablet through its own store a number of retailers are still selling the tablet for $200 or less.
Its not clear if the new model will feature improvements such as a higher-resolution display or a different processor. Lenovo could also take a different approach by offering an entry-level device with a lower price tag and less impressive specs.
Starting prices for Windows tablets continue to fall. Toshiba recently launched one of the first tablets with a list price of $199 and a $99 model is on the way from Chinese device maker Kingsing.
But you can get an even better deal if you pick up a slightly older tablet thats been discounted in the months since it first hit the streets. Thats because instead of buying a device that was designed to sell for under $199 you can get a model with a faster CPU and more memory and storage for about the same price.
Prices will likely continue to fall in the coming months but here are 6 Windows 8.1 tablets you can buy today for half the price of an iPad mini with Retina Display. [...]
1. Toshiba Encore 2 $192 (Amazon)
2. FNF Fine8 Work Tablet $165 (PandaWill)
3. Cube iWork8 $185 (Newegg)
4. Asus VivoTab Note 8 $199 (Amazon)
5. Lenovo IdeaTab Miix 2 $200 (Amazon)
6. Toshiba Encore WT8 $195 (Amazon)
TrulyUncouth said:I know you acknowledge in the second half that your first half is nitpicky but I wanted to weigh in anyways. I think the screen is good, and my only complaint is its brightness being a bit too low in well-lit/outside settings. Just to put my judging in perspective I have an Asus ROG $1000 laptop with the same res and what appears to be worse quality I bought last year.
I think for how cheap it is, especially including the keyboard dock, they did a good job balancing the cheapness of all the components. The only thing I would gladly pay more to have is a keyboard dock with a battery built-in. I loved that so much on the original android transformer. Nothing like 17 hours unplugged.
The screen is great for a laptop or netbook since these devices usually have shitty screens. Its screen is probably better than 90% of laptop screens out there. It is about so so for a $300 dollar tablet. Not saying it has a bad tablet screens but its screen is similar to others in this price point. And it pales in comparison to an iPad retina or nexus 7 screen (I am spoiled by my nexus)
If you want to make a tablet a great portable gaming device you need to be able to use it outdoors which means 500 nits + brightness and/or very low reflections.
I am not saying the t100 is shit with the screen I was raving about the screen when I got my t100 last year ( links earlier thread)
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2354603
Bioshock for iOS is meant to run on A6, A6X, A7 and future SoC's. A6 and A6X have OpenGL ES2 GPU's.
6 Windows 8.1 tablets for $199 or less
http://liliputing.com/2014/08/6-windows-8-1-tablet-for-199-or-less.html
Just conjecture but, other than savings, its probably hard to find a high quality screen in 1366x768 and the general opinion is win8 doesn't cope well with high res. Perhaps Asus figured "2 birds" its smarter to just save some money and complaints on dpi scaling and go for a 768p. Too bad, I would've loved 400+ nits to get some back-deck gaming in. Maybe time for a premium model with higher brightness? Atleast the light-bleed is a million times better compared to my original transformer.
Baytrail laptop at Microcenter for 199.00 link
Normally not a fan of putting these low power SOCs in full size laptops, but that price is really amazingly low. Most of the reviews were good as well, except for a few that cited lack of dvd drive or ethernet port.
Warning in advance- My results may have been affected by the fact I was using the tablet in a hot environment and with it recently charged(Mine gets pretty hot when charged for a while). The tablet was quite warm to the touch before I launched the game- not sure how much that affects it, just sharing. I also had fraps running the entire time and some people claim it hurts performance- YMMV.
Ok, got bioshock up and running on the T100. Results are mixed. At low/med settings mixed with high textures at 720p it runs mostly in the mid-20's with too many dips down into the teens for my taste- but looks surprisingly good. Native 1366*768 loses only ~2fps, but at this low of fps to begin with I wouldn't suggest it.
If you must have consistent 25+fps then I found good results with 800x600. At that res it still looked good while being very responsive to input and in my ~5 minutes testing never saw it drop below 25fps. Also, if you are a die-hard fps hound you can hit 40-50s at 480p with 30fps being pretty much the floor on your fps, but I wouldn't suggest it because it looks bad.
I saw some dips in strange places like when approaching the bathysphere at the beginning even though that area is graphically simpler than sweeping vistas that had higher framerates. I did not get a chance to test on the more involved multi-enemy boss fights and whatnot because I can't find my old saves- so I make no promises on how that would change FPS.
The game is playable and doesn't look bad, but be warned it will lag occasionally at 720p and higher. I didn't run into any installation issues but I did use an illicit copy online that was pre-patched to v1.1 since I wasn't about to hassle with trying to get my original CD's installed on the tablet. If you own the game and can't get it working I don't think anyone would morally judge you for fixing it this way, Cameron.
Conclusion- If you are either willing to accept low fps and good visuals or mediocre visuals to get good fps- then bioshock is definitely playable on the T100.
Comparison to ios- I'll leave this up to the professionals for the most part because I don't have a setup to capture video and compare it- but just eyeballing it I think the PC version appears to be using a better lighting path even on lowest settings but I am impressed comparing the two how smoothly the iOS version seems to run.