The Intel Atom Thread

[CryNet]

So I wonder if the width(horizontaily) of the voyo A1 or any 8 tablet can fit into this bt pad

that's my question

 

[Roland00Address]

So I went into bestbuy just to see if there was anything new before christmas. I am never near this side of town but I was paying a bill so I was nearby and I felt like exploring.

• They had the Asus TF0310C and the TF103C for $199 these have intel baytrail in them and are 10”

I apologize if they were posted before but here are new things I had not seen before.

Lenovo S8-50

Lenovo - S8-50 Tablet - 16GB - Black
Model: S8-50 – 59426767
SKU: 8731458

UPC 888772559250
8" high-definition 10-point capacitive multitouch display
With IPS technology and 1920 x 1200 resolution makes navigation simple and presents visuals in sharp detail.
Android 4.4 KitKat
16GB storage capacity
Intel® Atom™ processor Z3745 with a 1.33GHz processor speed up to 1.86GHz,
2GB LPDDR3 memory and
Intel HD Graphics
8.0MP rear-facing camera, Along with a 1.6MP high-definition front-facing camera
microSD slot Accepts compatible cards up to 64GB (not included) for simple expansion.
2 front-facing speakers

$199.99
ON SALE
Regular Price: $249.99
You Save: $50.00
 

Unbranded 10"

Unbranded - Windows 8 10.1" - Tablet - 32GB - Gray
Model: UB-15MS10SA SKU: 9496117
UPC 600603185304
10.1" WXGA TFT LED touch-screen display with 1280 x 800 resolution
Windows 8.1 Includes 1 year of free Microsoft Office 365 Personal.
32GB storage capacity
Intel® Atom™ processor
With 1.33GHz processor speed
2GB memory for optimal performance.
2.0MP front- and rear-facing digital cameras
microSD card slot
Allows you to expand storage up to 64GB (card not included).
HDMI output

$229.99+FREE SHIPPING
Only reason why I bring this up is they have a nice keyboard (at first glance, I did not type on it) with a bundle for something cheap if I recall $249ish
The Keyboard was one similar to the thinkpad 10 keyboard or the official tab s 10.5 keyboard+dock
 
I guess this is the new nexus 1080p replacement Note this is mooresfield and not baytrail. 2gb of ram, no 5ghz.
According to best buy it was the same dimensions as the nexus 7 2013 but it seemed smaller to me. It is 9.6 ounces which is lighter than the 11.2 ounces (why can’t best buy have metric numbers or at least more significant digits)

Asus - ME572

7" LCD high-definition 10-finger capacitive touch-screen display
With IPS technology, 400 cd/m² brightness, a 178° viewing angle and 1920 x 1200 resolution makes navigation simple and presents media in sharp detail.
Android 4.4 KitKat
16GB storage capacity
Quad-core processor
Intel® Atom™ Z3560 processor with a 1.8GHz processor speed and 2GB LPDDR3 memory for efficient performance.
Wi-Fi (802.11b/g/n)
Bluetooth 4.0 interface
5.0MP rear-facing and 2.0MP front-facing webcams
microSD slot
Sensors Include G-sensor, ambient light, ecompass and hall for versatility.

$179.99
 
Another possible nexus replacement this time from acer. Also 1920x1200, atom baytrail, 8” instead of 7” and 5 ghz wifi.

A1-840FHD-10G2

Processor Manufacturer: Intel
Processor Type: Atom
Processor Model: Z3745
Processor Speed: 1.33 GHz
Processor Core: Quad-core (4 Core)
Cache: 2 MB
Standard Memory: 2 GB
Memory Technology: LPDDR3
Memory Card Reader: Yes
Flash Memory Capacity: 16 GB
Optical Drive Type: No
Screen Size: 8"
Screen Mode: WUXGA
Display Screen Type: Active Matrix TFT Color LCD
Aspect Ratio: 16:10
Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1200
Backlight Technology: LED
Display Screen Technology: In-plane Switching (IPS) Technology
Touchscreen: Yes
Multi-touch Screen: Yes
GPS: Yes
Wireless LAN: Yes
Wireless LAN Standard: IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n
Bluetooth: Yes
Bluetooth Standard: Bluetooth 4.0
HDMI: Yes
Front Camera/Webcam: Yes
Finger Print Reader: No
Operating System Platform: Android
Operating System: Android
Number of Cells: 1-cell
Form Factor: Slate
Height: 0.3"
Width: 8.5"
Depth: 5.1"
Weight (Approximate): 12.70 oz

I could have sworn it was cheaper in the store. The $195 price is not best buy’s price but buy.com’s price. If I recall it was $159. Whatever it was less than $199 for I noticed that and it shocked me.

 

[witeken]

Interesting... I notice that I haven't seen many reviews of such Bay Trail/Moorefield products. Intel must win a more noticeable design win from Apple, Sony or Samsung.

 

[TeknoBug]

The Lenovo and Asus tablets look pretty nice, wonder how functional they are and if Linux or Windows RT can be flashed on them. I have enough Android devices already. lol

 

[Shivansps]

So I wonder if the width(horizontaily) of the voyo A1 or any 8 tablet can fit into this bt pad

that's my question

its hard to me to tell you because i dont have one, but i can tell you that its the same size of a 7" one.

 

[witeken]

A year ago, 16 Gen8 EUs seemed great. Today, Intel is again behind the competition with Mobile Kepler and the ~400GFLOPS Series7XT. Lol, that's almost as much as a 2013 desktop IGP.

 

[Arachnotronic]

A year ago, 16 Gen8 EUs seemed great. Today, Intel is again behind the competition with Mobile Kepler and the ~400GFLOPS Series7XT. Lol, that's almost as much as a 2013 desktop IGP.

They call this "shooting behind the duck."

 

[Shivansps]

A year ago, 16 Gen8 EUs seemed great. Today, Intel is again behind the competition with Mobile Kepler and the ~400GFLOPS Series7XT. Lol, that's almost as much as a 2013 desktop IGP.

Whiout x86 and Windows thats 999999% useless.

 

[Revolution 11]

A year ago, 16 Gen8 EUs seemed great. Today, Intel is again behind the competition with Mobile Kepler and the ~400GFLOPS Series7XT. Lol, that's almost as much as a 2013 desktop IGP.

Witeken, I thought you were a fan of Intel's products. What changed your view?

But yes, I agree, Intel really needs to ramp up their mobile efforts. I think more OEMs would use Intel if they had a integrated radio like Qualcomm does.

 

[witeken]

Witeken, I thought you were a fan of Intel's products. What changed your view?

I don't consider myself a fanboy. I'm a fan of great products. I can't be a fan of products that don't exist or will launch too late, can I? Reality typically has a bias towards Intel: for example, I haven't seen a single company besides Intel launch a product or even start production of FinFET transistors; the most significant change of the transistor since the invention of the transistor. Reality still hasn't favored Intel in the mobile space. Moorefield shouldn't have launched in Q2'12... companies are only now starting to catch up to this performance and (probably still a year until) power.

But yes, I agree, Intel really needs to ramp up their mobile efforts. I think more OEMs would use Intel if they had a integrated radio like Qualcomm does.

I don't doubt that Intel puts a lot of effort into its mobile campaign. But I want to see them in lots of popular products.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Witeken, I thought you were a fan of Intel's products. What changed your view?

But yes, I agree, Intel really needs to ramp up their mobile efforts. I think more OEMs would use Intel if they had a integrated radio like Qualcomm does.

Technically speaking, Qualcomm doesn't have an integrated radio, but it does integrate the cellular baseband processor. RF is still done on a separate chip.

 

[witeken]

Moorefield is super smooth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58BWjlOVTCo

 

[liahos1]

Moorefield is super smooth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58BWjlOVTCo

the venue 8 7000 looks like an amazing product. its too bad that smoothness is not something ppl can really bench for because it did appear smooth in that video vs the nexus. in benches the device would lose to a nexus 9 though.

 

[Shivansps]

Im hearing that you can "trick" the IGP of lower Bay Trails, say, a Z3735D, intro having the turbo clocks of Z3770 by changing the ID in the driver, i gona have to check that out and report back.

 

[therealnickdanger]

Im hearing that you can "trick" the IGP of lower Bay Trails, say, a Z3735D, intro having the turbo clocks of Z3770 by changing the ID in the driver, i gona have to check that out and report back.

I'm interested in testing this as well if you don't mind sharing your method. I've got a WinBook TW100 from Microcenter. Goes for $199 normally, $159 open box:

IPS 16:10 10.1" 1280x800
Intel Bay Trail-T Z3735D 1.33GHz Quad-Core CPU
2GB RAM & 32GB eMMC Flash Storage
Windows 8.1 + Bing
1 x Micro USB 2.0
1 x microSD Slot (I installed a Samsung 64GB Pro)
1 x USB 3.0 full size
1 x Micro HDMI
1 x 3.5mm Audio Headphone/Microphone Combo Jack

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=410605

Overall, I've been impressed with it, but there are a couple of issues that I have with it. The Z3735D is a 64-bit CPU, but it only supports up to 2GB RAM. In hindsight, I would recommend that users spring for the Z3770 or other Atom capable of using 4GB RAM or more. The IGP is capable of playing some older games, but the RAM limitation keeps me from playing certain games that I know are playable on very low settings.

It can play Blu-ray backups perfectly when locally stored, but wifi conditions have to be perfect for it to stream well. YouTube/Netflix/etc. all play perfectly in HD. Its performance as a Steam In-Home Streaming device is good, too, but bounces between 30fps and 60fps depending upon the wifi strength.

Battery life has been very good. I can leave it sleeping on the couch for days, use it for a couple hours, leave it there again, use it for a few more hours. It's quite nice to not worry about the battery. I haven't done any battery benchmarks (Battery Eater), but it's an all-day+ experience for my use case.

It would probably be perfect (for my needs) if it had 4GB RAM and a 64-bit OS... but it's hard to complain for $160.

 

[Shivansps]

The idea is to disable securebot and do

bcdedit -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING ON

To enable unsigned drivers, them open the driver .inf file and add

%iVLVGMT0% = iVLV2M_w81, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0F31

on the last line of the "Windows 8.1 Install" area of the inf file. ANd install the driver.

 

[witeken]

The first smartwatch with Silvermont (I think):

http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/17/7235961/intel-reveals-mica-its-smart-cuff-wearable

 

[III-V]

Yuck.

Need more watches like the Moto 360.

 

[liahos1]

The first smartwatch with Silvermont (I think):

http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/17/7235961/intel-reveals-mica-its-smart-cuff-wearable

seems like overkill for silvermont, even the downclocked ones in edison

 

[Nothingness]

seems like overkill for silvermont, even the downclocked ones in edison

Yes, I bet it's some ARM Cortex-M microcontroller.

 

[witeken]

Yuck.

Need more watches like the Moto 360.

You don't belong to the target market, I suppose. It's a niche product...

 

[witeken]

Yes, I bet it's some ARM Cortex-M microcontroller.

I don't know:

During the panel discussion she likened it to the way that Intel treats its Edison chip as a platform for the "Internet of things" as opposed to a commercial product.

 

[Nothingness]

Hmm intriguing comment indeed. But I doubt any Silvermont-based chip could reach 2 days of battery life with a very small battery. Perhaps the Quark (i486) variant then?

 

[NTMBK]

I don't know:

Intel's IoT vision includes things like industrial automation, not necessarily smartwatches.

 

[III-V]

You don't belong to the target market, I suppose. It's a niche product...

Well no, I'm male. But I don't particularly find it interesting from a women's fashion standpoint either.