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For some reason the leaked Manhattan score is faster than Adreno 420/A8 while T-Rex score lags behind a bit. Cherry Trail scores should be >40 FPS @ T-Rex Offscreen till launch.

Manhattan Offscreen:
Cherryview ES - 20.1 FPS
A8 - 18-19 FPS
Adreno 420: ~18 FPS

T-Rex Offscreen:
Cherryview ES - 35.3 FPS
A8 - 42-45 FPS
Adreno 420 - ~42 FPS
 
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For some reason the leaked Manhattan score is faster than Adreno 420/A8 while T-Rex score lags behind a bit. Cherry Trail scores should be >40 FPS @ T-Rex Offscreen till launch.

Manhattan Offscreen:
Cherryview ES - 20.1 FPS
A8 - 18-19 FPS
Adreno 420: ~18 FPS

T-Rex Offscreen:
Cherryview ES - 35.3 FPS
A8 - 42-45 FPS
Adreno 420 - ~42 FPS
Possibly, but not necessarily. Each architecture has its own strengths and weaknesses... and this can change even between designs using the same underlying architecture.
 

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Personally, I love the fact that my tablet can play games. When I travel (back home to see the parents for Christmas, or staying in a hotel for work) I can just take my Haswell tablet and an XBox controller with me, and I can play all sorts of older games from Steam at reduced settings just fine. It's not going to run Assassin's Creed Unity or anything, but it still keeps me entertained.

Shame that Broadwell's GPU doesn't seem to be much of an improvement. I was hoping for an Ivy Bridge style doubling of performance.

yeah but haswell is quiet a bit more powerful than baytrail or ARM tablets. I assume your have the surface 3?

To everyone their own. I can survive without gaming for couple days or weeks. Reading or watching videos works pretty well too as entertainment.
 

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Not that meaningful since early ES models are usually very low clocked. In other leaks Cherry View CPU is running at 1.36 Ghz and GPU according to Sisoft 200 Mhz.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1304488
http://www.sisoftware.eu/rank2011d/...b9d8e5dce5d5f381bc8caacfaa97a781f2cffecd&l=en
http://www.sisoftware.eu/rank2011d/...dde4d0e6d1e9cfbd80b096f396ab9bbdcef3c2f1&l=en
Are you sure this is an ES chip? All the results you show are from last November, while it's possible the result Sweepr found is from this month, and Cherry is currently being delivered to customer so it's not ES sample anymore I guess.

Link to all dates of test: http://gfxbench.com/allresults.jsp?D=Intel%28R%29+CherryView+HD+Graphics&benchmark=gfx30
The result Sweepr shown is the top one, the median for Manhattan/TRex offscreen scores are 10-20% lower.
 
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Why are the scores so similar to Bay Trail though? Is the architecturally significantly the same?


Valleyview is quite a bit faster in Geekbench. Bay Trail is not its predecessor, don't compare with it.


Are you sure this is an ES chip? All the results you show are from last November, while it's possible the result Sweepr found is from this month, and Cherry is currently being delivered to customer so it's not ES sample anymore I guess.

Link to all dates of test: http://gfxbench.com/allresults.jsp?D=Intel%28R%29+CherryView+HD+Graphics&benchmark=gfx30
The result Sweepr shown is the top one, the median for Manhattan/TRex offscreen scores are 10-20% lower.


Cherry View is coming not before mid-2015, half a year or more from now on. This is an ES model, a could be a newer ES from Sweepr of course.
 

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Valleyview is quite a bit faster in Geekbench. Bay Trail is not its predecessor, don't compare with it.





Cherry View is coming not before mid-2015, half a year or more from now on. This is an ES model, a could be a newer ES from Sweepr of course.

What is it's predecessor? I thought logically that Baytrail would be Cherrytrail's predecessor.
 

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yeah but haswell is quiet a bit more powerful than baytrail or ARM tablets. I assume your have the surface 3?

To everyone their own. I can survive without gaming for couple days or weeks. Reading or watching videos works pretty well too as entertainment.

Dell Venue 11 Pro, similar level of performance to the SP3.

Oh, I certainly could live without gaming for a couple of weeks, agreed. It's a luxury, not a necessity! But if I'm bringing along a mobile device to run a web browser/Netflix etc on it, it may as well handle a bit of gaming too

And tbh, I'm hoping that Cherry Trail should have similar performance to these Haswell tablets in gaming (though it may still be CPU limited).
 
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So we can assume production chips are available? Hence we could not definitely deduce the score Sweepr showed is from an ES (though it could still be possible of course )?

The GFXBench scores are probably realistic, but that Geekbench score seems low...
 
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Indeed: MX4 vs Hudl 2. Note how despite being helped by AES the poor Silvermont gets trashed :biggrin: SPEC2000 results wouldn't look the same, but I guess A17 would still win.

IMO, Silvermont would have been a killer early-2013 CPU core (i.e. absolute leadership). But here in 2015, it's still a "good" core but ARM A17/A57, Cyclone, etc. are also good cores. If Intel wanted to show its proverbial teeth, it should have had a meaningfully improved CPU core in the market by late 2014/early 2015.
 
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Dell Venue 11 Pro, similar level of performance to the SP3.

Oh, I certainly could live without gaming for a couple of weeks, agreed. It's a luxury, not a necessity! But if I'm bringing along a mobile device to run a web browser/Netflix etc on it, it may as well handle a bit of gaming too

And tbh, I'm hoping that Cherry Trail should have similar performance to these Haswell tablets in gaming (though it may still be CPU limited).

just for the heck of it, i tried to play Rise of Nations extended edition on a Bay Trail tablet. I ran without glitches or anything, but was only about 20FPS. Not really a good experience. Surprisingly changing the graphical settings had absolutely no effect on the framerate. So it would appear to have been cpu limited. However, it was one of those cheap microcenter tablets with very small internal storage, so i was running from a SD card with only 1gb of ram, so it could have been related to one of those.

Does anyone know how much system ram is allocated to the igp, and can this be set by the user?
 
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