The James Webb Telescope

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Charmonium

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Considering our luck so far, let's just hope any coronal mass ejections that come our way don't slither past us and do it any harm. I'm sure they've already thought of that though.
 

ArizonaSteve

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I'm probably going to answer my own question here but I thought we were long past needing near AZ temps to get good signal/noise response. Of course with the cosmic background only being about 5F above AZ, the signals probably clean up much, much, much more nicely.
Why did I read AZ as Arizona and not Absolute Zero?
 
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herm0016

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I'm probably going to answer my own question here but I thought we were long past needing near AZ temps to get good signal/noise response. Of course with the cosmic background only being about 5F above AZ, the signals probably clean up much, much, much more nicely.

because if you want to measure infrared radiation, you are looking at delta T, and they want to measure absolute temperature very precisely. so less change in the measurement system is going to introduce less error.
 
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Muse

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perhaps NASA will discover the tomato planet

red, bulgy, slightly squished at the poles, and delicious
I am quite sure that the fruits of the James Webb Telescope are going to generate shall I say infinitely more excitement than my tomatoes ever could. Hopefully heady days coming.
 

eelw

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welp, it was good while it lasted

this is the decade of terrible things

everything that can go wrong, will go wrong

wake me up when it's 2030
I already watched news story on it yesterday, so didn’t read the article posted above. But since it’s a mirror on the edge, won’t affect the complete image. Yes this is the largest impact, but this is the 5th impact so far
 

Red Squirrel

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When I first saw the design I was kind of surprised they went with everything exposed so much. But guess even if they end up with a bunch of small dents in the mirror they can correct for that in post. I'm sure they were not expecting to get hit by stuff so soon though...
 

Muse

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But the good news is that it is not going to affect the performance parameters of the telescope. However, there is a little bit of a conspicuous impact on the data.
There we go with the (how many times do you hear this every day?) "little bit" modifier. Dang!
 

JEDI

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Webb: Engineered to Endure Micrometeoroid Impacts

How Hardy Is Webb? A Q&A About the Toughness of NASA’s Webb Telescope

They did try to plan & test for small meteoroid strikes. They said this particular one was just a bit bigger than they could test for. They're not planning any delays though as of now.
$10B?
hmm.. the actual cost of building it is probably a fraction of that $10B. the rest of the cost is research and development.
why didnt they build a 2nd telescope for cost efficiency?

like the Navy builds at least 2 ships of it's class.
or the airforce builds at least 2 prototypes of it's new planes.

ie: 2 telescopes for total cost of $12B, or $6B each
 

eelw

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When I first saw the design I was kind of surprised they went with everything exposed so much. But guess even if they end up with a bunch of small dents in the mirror they can correct for that in post. I'm sure they were not expecting to get hit by stuff so soon though...
JWST would be insanely large if designed like Hubble. And no wait to launch it from the surface. Would have to be assembled in space.
 
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Muse

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$10B?
hmm.. the actual cost of building it is probably a fraction of that $10B. the rest of the cost is research and development.
why didnt they build a 2nd telescope for cost efficiency?

like the Navy builds at least 2 ships of it's class.
or the airforce builds at least 2 prototypes of it's new planes.

ie: 2 telescopes for total cost of $12B, or $6B each
Maybe because the testing process for each is very complex and expensive. And they figured that the chance they would need the 2nd before a superior telescope could be developed, tested and deployed did not warrant the expense of producing that backup.
 

Zeze

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$10B?
hmm.. the actual cost of building it is probably a fraction of that $10B. the rest of the cost is research and development.
Actual building cost after you figure it all out is probably the little.
 

zinfamous

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what is this source? It was written by robots. I mean, just read that claptrap. No one is reporting this. anyway, it also doesn't matter, apparently, according to this very same robot source that can't even put words together in the worst attempt to even pretend that it is disseminating news to humans.

I mean, jesus fucking christ: just read for 15 seconds, this link, before considering posting such balderhoohy.
 

Tsinni Dave

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what is this source? It was written by robots. I mean, just read that claptrap. No one is reporting this. anyway, it also doesn't matter, apparently, according to this very same robot source that can't even put words together in the worst attempt to even pretend that it is disseminating news to humans.

I mean, jesus fucking christ: just read for 15 seconds, this link, before considering posting such balderhoohy.
The first rule of the robot overlords is you don't talk about the robot overlords, meat sack.
 
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