For a woman to come forward in the glaring light of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not its been made worse or better over time.Yeh, right. You're just trolling now. We went from "he touched my shoulders & ran his fingers down my neck" to "he grabbed me by the pussy!"
Just minor details, obviously.
This one, from VOX, hardly a right wing publication.Yeh, right. You're just trolling now. We went from "he touched my shoulders & ran his fingers down my neck" to "he grabbed me by the pussy!"
Just minor details, obviously.
Maybe we can get her to testify under oath in his trial? I'd be satisfied with that. You?Which version are they telling/claiming? Her original or the new improved rapier one?
For a woman to come forward in the glaring light of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not its been made worse or better over time.
- Joe Biden
Trial for what? Has he been charged or arrested?Maybe we can get her to testify under oath in his trial? I'd be satisfied with that. You?
Maybe we can get her to testify under oath in his trial? I'd be satisfied with that. You?
Yet for some reason you cannot back up what you say with cold hard facts....links please?? Oh, and no links where you misrepresent what is being said...which is just another way of wording - for no links where you have to play stupid when called on for lying....Again you're spouting bullshit and talking about different points. However you cannot change the fact that there is far more reason to believe Tara Reade's accusations against creepy Joe Biden the serial sexual predator and the mainstream Democrats support of something they've been railing against for 3-4 years.
The hypocrisy is stunning as well as delicious.
hahha he will never source the claim because he can`t find the claim........or he can`t find a link that he can post without obviously lying.....Answered by Fskimospy in a previous post and now you dismiss Tara Reade because she changed her story while accepting all the changes that Ford made in her testimony.
THE HYPOCRISY from you BURNS!
while i'm laughing at your sanctimony of course.
More gotcha news!! Thats is her word against......I see no outside cooroberation.....This one, from VOX, hardly a right wing publication.
"But on Tuesday, Reade’s allegation came to the fore again when Grim reported on its general outline in the Intercept. Then, on Wednesday, Halper released her interview on her podcast, The Katie Halper Show. In it, Reade says that in 1993, when she was in her 20s and working for Biden, another staffer asked her to bring him a gym bag at the US Capitol.
When she did, she says, he pushed her up against a wall in a secluded area, began kissing her, and reached under her skirt to penetrate her with his fingers. After she pulled away, she says he responded with something along the lines of, “Come on, man, I heard you liked me.” Reade said Biden also said something that sticks with her today: “You’re nothing to me.” "
"and reached under her skirt to penetrate her with his fingers"
"and reached under her skirt to penetrate her with his fingers"
got it Jhhnn?
A sexual assault allegation against Joe Biden has ignited controversy
A woman says Biden assaulted her in 1993 and has filed a criminal complaint.www.vox.com
Again you are lying, and doing so after I had previously established the actual facts. Ford in fact claimed before her friend responded publicly that her friend was UNAWARE of the incident at the time and she did not say anything to her friend. All her friend could not remember in terms of being a witness is if she was specifically at a party with her, Ford, and Kavanaugh which as far as she was concerned nothing exceptional seemed to have occurred and she was being questioned about it decades latter. (Absolutely ideally her friend would remember the party and how why did not say anything Ford was clearly really shaken by something that happened at the party there, but that was always clearly a longshot.)I "believe" in God. It's not evidence. When a friend of Ford's says "I believe her" it isn't evidence either, it's faith and therefore not admissible. The friend Ford claimed she told at the time of the alleged incident had absolutely no memory of her telling her. It's not evidence.
Obviously the amount of evidence goes in the opposite direction. First of all, as far as I can tell from available articles, as of right now neither of Tara Reade's witnesses has actually said what they were specifically told at the time which matters in terms of their value as witnesses to confirm her story, and we don't know who one of them is at all. (We also don't actually know how well they remember the details of what she said by the way even assuming they will completely accurate in what they say.) By contrast, all of I believe at least 5 witnesses who Ford talked to prior to the period when Kavanaugh got nominated (or even was about to) get nominated to the Supreme Court, went public and submitted affidavits or took other steps which risked perjury charges if they were later shown to have lied.Compare it to Tara Reade who's brother and friend clearly recall the incident when she told them about it right after it happened. Do you see the difference? One has corroborating evidence and it ain't Ford.
Not in some cases, Biden would qualify the same as Harvey Weinstein.Sure, and maybe Trump's 24 accusers can all testify against him at trial. Oh wait, they're all way past the statute of limitations. Too bad.
Read the Vox article, you are lying about what it says.Again you are lying, and doing so after I had previously established the actual facts. Ford in fact claimed before her friend responded publicly that her friend was UNAWARE of the incident at the time and she did not say anything to her friend. All her friend could not remember in terms of being a witness is if she was specifically at a party with her, Ford, and Kavanaugh which as far as she was concerned nothing exceptional seemed to have occurred and she was being questioned about it decades latter. (Absolutely ideally her friend would remember the party and how why did not say anything Ford was clearly really shaken by something that happened at the party there, but that was always clearly a longshot.)
Obviously the amount of evidence goes in the opposite direction. First of all, as far as I can tell from available articles, as of right now neither of Tara Reade's witnesses has actually said what they were specifically told at the time which matters in terms of their value as witnesses to confirm her story, and we don't know who one of them is at all. (We also don't actually know how well they remember the details of what she said by the way even assuming they will completely accurate in what they say.) By contrast, all of I believe at least 5 witnesses who Ford talked to prior to the period when Kavanaugh got nominated (or even was about to) get nominated to the Supreme Court, went public and submitted affidavits or took other steps which risked perjury charges if they were later shown to have lied.
We also had Ford herself specifically pass a polygraph test regarding her claims.
Ford also had a witnesses who has to be viewed as inherently highly creditable. Unlike someone more personally involved, the therapist clearly does not have the same sort of personal relationship which might persuade him/her to theoretically make up a story to support Ford. Even more crucially there are was the original copy of his/her notes from 2012 to the US Senate as potential evidence. If she had pulled a stunt like forging the notes right before they were submitted to the FBI, there are ways to check and if the Senate had investigated things more closely it is essentially guaranteed they would have subjected the notes to forensic analysis to make sure they matched up with being written in 2012. (Both the Trump administration and the Senate obviously had the incentive to look for anything to discredit the allegations if they were actually further holding up the nomination.) If they did not match up with the 2012 date the therapist would be looking at a perjury charge and presumably losing her license among other things. You can try to suggest Ford had some reason to make up a fictional assault in 2012 (which just happened to perfectly match Kavanaugh with the description of a perpetrator) or the like but not go pubic with it for many years, but it is a vastly harder case to make.
You also had issues with Kavanaugh making claims in his defense which were either clearly false or highly implausible while Biden does not have a similar issues in relation to this specific claim. (We have also already covered the issue of Tara Reade changing her story publicly.) Again there are basic reasons to treat one account more seriously than the other, and you are still getting basic facts wrong about the Ford accusation.
Reading is hard. From the Vox article i linked above.More gotcha news!! Thats is her word against......I see no outside cooroberation.....
You appear to be conceding your facts were wrong with your Kavanaugh witness claims, although your specific response was still potentially confusing. The Vox article actually specifically supports my claim. It is correct that Grim has talked to someone who is apparently a friend of Reade (as I noted in the first place), but we don't for example know the details of what they said she told them at the time (they may have been quite vague) nor do we know how carefully if at all Grim vetted the friend's background. It is also easier to conceivably make up something while remaining anonymous as opposed to presenting a sworn affidavit and sticking with specific claims.Read the Vox article, you are lying about what it says.
Again you are making claims which basically don't hold up to scrutiny. Ford's actions given the clearly established timeline simply do not match with her acting the way she did with this goal in mind. She specifically took steps to go forward with her story when Kavanaugh was merely being mentioned as one of the potential Supreme Court nominees Trump could pick. If the story had reached someone in the Trump administration at the time, it was completely possible (at least as far as she knew) that this would have been enough of a concern that the Trump administration would decide it was easier to go with another selection instead. (They certainly could have been closely divided on who they want to pick in the first place and its not like Ford had inside information about the exact thinking inside the White House.)Ford had well over a 647,000 reasons to make it up.
Reading is hard. From the Vox article i linked above.
"Since then, Grim has contacted Reade’s friend and brother, both of whom say she told them about the alleged sexual assault by Biden in 1993. "
That is the truth!! It just makes Taj upset or looney that nobody here takes him seriously! The reason most people play along with the kid is because it is a easy way to increase your post count!I don't know about you guys, but I am voting for the old senile man. Who is very much creepy, has a nice topping of allegations, and made a profit out of a presidency, etc.
Gosh, in a thread about the sexual predation of a staffer by creepy Joe Biden we get a smearing of Russia, Russia, Russia. I am so surprised. /sThat is the truth!! It just makes Taj upset or looney that nobody here takes him seriously! The reason most people play along with the kid is because it is a easy way to increase your post count!
All the while laughing hysterically under their breath!!
I am suprised taj has not tried to quote papers from his mother land........The Moscow Times....or USSR Today or Putin.News and finally Taj trade publication -- RussianBot.net!!
again there is nor proof that it happened....yet you won`t provide any truthful links to back up your diatribe...Gosh, in a thread about the sexual predation of a staffer by creepy Joe Biden we get a smearing of Russia, Russia, Russia. I am so surprised. /s
Face it, Joe Biden sexually assaulted a female staffer in 1993. End of story.
It doesn't matter how much you monkey dance it, deny it or pretend it didn't happen. It happened and this woman has corroborating evidence that it happened how, where and when she claimed. To see all these leftist Democrats expose themselves for the sanctimonious hypocrites i've always known them to be is just the freaking icing on my political cake. So thank you for the extra bit of flavor to my dessert.
Gosh, in a thread about the sexual predation of a staffer by creepy Joe Biden we get a smearing of Russia, Russia, Russia. I am so surprised. /s
Face it, Joe Biden sexually assaulted a female staffer in 1993. End of story.
It doesn't matter how much you monkey dance it, deny it or pretend it didn't happen. It happened and this woman has corroborating evidence that it happened how, where and when she claimed. To see all these leftist Democrats expose themselves for the sanctimonious hypocrites i've always known them to be is just the freaking icing on my political cake. So thank you for the extra bit of flavor to my dessert.
Character witness. Evidence. Done.I "believe" in God. It's not evidence. When a friend of Ford's says "I believe her" it isn't evidence either.
good question...you can`t argue with somebody who will lie or bend the truth or mis-represent a headline almost as bad as our local aracnid....lol, arguing with Taj, why do you guys bother?