You have no idea what hypocrisy is.The other accusations against Kavanaugh never solidified as anything substantial, they were part of the Avenatti circus.
There are two comparisons, Trump to Biden and Biden to Kavanaugh.
Republicans are hypocrites to accuse Biden given their support of Trump.
Democrats are hypocrites for attacking Reade given their support of Dr. Ford.
Repeated attempts to smell hair after being informed that the behavior is unwanted would rise to the level of harassment, not assault. Smelling a person's hair one time or even a few times when that person has never asked you to stop would not be either.
Kavanaugh and Biden are both facing the same number of credible acusers.Again this is credibility of individuals involved. Ford kept the accusation to state representative in efforts stop the nomination. But her story of Kavanaugh getting black out drunk falls in line with many others during his college days. Again, if there were as many accusers again Biden we would have believed Reade’s allegations more initially.
Notice how you have to add more complications to your original simple statement to make it even plausible?To note, in the military or in places like Oregon it can be criminal. A single whiff though would probably never be convicted or even brought up. But if someone did it every day to another person after being asked to stop and it could be proven that the person was using the act for sexual gratification or to sexually demean the person they were doing it to then someone could certainly end up in prison for it. Granted there is a lot of conditions to that. Some places would label the actions of sexual assault. Others as sexual deviancy charges. But yes one could go to jail for smelling another person's hair without consent in this country.
The Dr. Ford corroborations are no different than Reade’s. The Kavanaugh college allegations never went anywhere.3 separate people claimed similar experiences with Kavanaugh during the time he went to college. Nobody else has accused Biden of anything like Tara's story over a what? 40+ year career?
Corroboration of Ford's accusation can be found here:
Christine Ford’s Corroborating Evidence – The Future of Freedom Foundation
Throughout the controversy over the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, some people were saying that Christine Blasey Ford did not produce “corroborating evidence” to support her accusation that Kavanaugh had sexually assaulted her when they were teenagers. Therefore, since...www.fff.org
So I take it you haven't had harassment training recently.
Notice how you have to add more complications to your original simple statement to make it even plausible?
That indicates your original statement was horse shit.
I like totally missed the mark but nailed it.No. Just means it was too generalized. That was a mistake, but the statement isn't wrong.
Because the senate committee gave such narrow focus that the FBI can investigate.The Dr. Ford corroborations are no different than Reade’s. The Kavanaugh college allegations never went anywhere.
Again this is credibility of individuals involved. Ford kept the accusation to state representative in efforts stop the nomination. But her story of Kavanaugh getting black out drunk falls in line with many others during his college days. Again, if there were as many accusers again Biden we would have believed Reade’s allegations more initially.
So you think its appropriate for the FBI to investigate if a nominee drank in college, given that there was not one allegation of misconduct against Kavanaugh during his entire career, and he has actually done a lot of good for women in his career. Not one of his many female clerks came forward to demonstrate a pattern of behavior.Because the senate committee gave such narrow focus that the FBI can investigate.
And yeah totally ignore past behaviour but yet demanding Reade’s word by itself be accepted.
So you think its appropriate for the FBI to investigate if a nominee drank in college, given that there was not one allegation of misconduct against Kavanaugh during his entire career, and he has actually done a lot of good for women in his career. Not one of his many female clerks came forward to demonstrate a pattern of behavior.
If it makes you feel better. I was wrong in making it too generalized. It wasn't horseshit though. If it makes you feel better to think it was horseshit then whatever floats your boat. I have no problems admitting mistakes or things I am wrong about. The statement wasn't wrong, the presentation of the statement was though.I like totally missed the mark but nailed it.
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If if if. If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle. Has anyone accused Biden of sniffing someone's hair every day after being asked to stop? No? Then you concede that Biden is not accused of doing anything that qualifies as sexual assault except by Reade.To note, in the military or in places like Oregon it can be criminal. A single whiff though would probably never be convicted or even brought up. But if someone did it every day to another person after being asked to stop and it could be proven that the person was using the act for sexual gratification or to sexually demean the person they were doing it to then someone could certainly end up in prison for it. Granted there is a lot of conditions to that. Some places would label the actions of sexual assault. Others as sexual deviancy charges. But yes one could go to jail for smelling another person's hair without consent in this country.
They are different, simply because Ford's story never changed between mutually exclusive versions.The Dr. Ford corroborations are no different than Reade’s. The Kavanaugh college allegations never went anywhere.
You and I have agreed that Kavanaugh’s alleged perjury is a separate issue and I would not protest his removal over said perjury.I think it is appropriate for the FBI to investigate if people have perjured themselves before Congress, yes. Do you disagree?
Kavanaugh and Biden are both facing the same number of credible acusers.
I am saying that we shouldn’t politically weaponize sexual assault allegations.So, are you saying that Reade is credible or that Ford is not credible?
I am saying that we shouldn’t politically weaponize sexual assault allegations.
Both Reade and Dr. Ford are credible. In both cases, there are also other factors that extend a benefit of the doubt to the accused.
I will say both cases were not handled consistently, and that is the failing in all of this.
Both women are victims of political tribalism.
Starbuck doesn't care about the victims. He assumes all politicians are pieces of shit so sexually assaulting people should not be disqualifying for anyone.Perhaps you could define "credible" in your usage here. And also define what burden of proof you would want to see. And also define what action you would like to see as a result of that burden of proof being met. And in what manner such an accusation should be handled to examine that evidence.
Consistency and corroboration means they shouldn’t be dismissedPerhaps you could define "credible" in your usage here.
Independent investigations with full transparencyAnd also define what burden of proof you would want to see.
Political parties holding their own members accountable to a standard of ethical behavior instead of the opposing having to do it for them.And also define what action you would like to see as a result of that burden of proof being met.
That’s where it breaks down because any system will lean in bias towards the accuser or the accused. I would prefer a world where we target the factors that tend to enable sexual assault to begin with. Zero tolerance alcohol policies for athletes, fraternities and sororities would be a start.And in what manner such an accusation should be handled to examine that evidence.
Not all are pieces of shit. Only some...and their waterboysStarbuck doesn't care about the victims. He assumes all politicians are pieces of shit so sexually assaulting people should not be disqualifying for anyone.
Purity Of Essence. Peace On Earth.Not all are pieces of shit. Only some...and their waterboys