The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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You're either being deceptive at this point or did not do your research.

She did specifically later commit to turning over the original notes completely as soon as the FBI committed to a full investigation in a way that did not actually happen. Furthermore, the Senate had the power to force her to turn over the notes if necessary even if you argue she would have outright broken her agreement if that occurred. This means the risk of the therapist in particular facing perjury or comparable charges (if not Ford herself) absolutely existed if those notes were not actually from 2012, and you what you posted in no way changed that.

By contrast, when we get to weakness of Tara Reade's claim, we have the reality at this point that she has effectively already admired to lying to the public about any alleged encounter with Joe Biden. The version she is now claiming still has her altering what she said publicly about her encounter with Biden previously because she thought it would be more likely to be believed before now asserting this new version of events, but still has her being untruthful with the public which is clearly a problem with her credibility.

We also have the underlying fact that in spite of Joe Biden's prominent in national politics since 1973 including previous presidential runs and being Obama's Vice-President twice, no-one else has come forward with a comparable claim of something like digital penetration or something actually in the same type of category. Simply put arguably overtly familiar touching in the way the other involved individuals objected to in no way resembles that. You certainly would have expected others to come forward with their stories by now if this was part of a pattern of behavior. (I suppose in theory you could argue this was a one off action from Biden, but even Tara Reade's own story seems highly inconsistent with such an idea.)

Other point worth noting is Tara Reade went out of her way to praise Biden until very recently, including specifically his actions in stopping sexual assaults against women as recently as 2017.

Even if you assume she was simply not willing to come forward with what happened with her at the time, it still seems to defy belief that she would go out of her way to support praise of him specifically in this area if she had been previously sexually assaulted by him. In fact doing so would at least be pretty close to outright deceiving the public again if you buy her latest claim.

In other words those of who are a highly skeptical of Tara Reade's story have very good reasons to be so at this point.

You certainly come across as unbelievably partisan and willing to try to distort even the basic established facts to try to justify your partisanship and how you treat the two sets of accusations.
So, she didn't turn over her therapist's notes ............. right? End of that story.
She didn't turn over the notes of the lie detector test.......... right? End of that story

If you give the same latitude about being afraid or concerned about coming forward to Ford, you have to give the same leeway to Reade. Unless of course you're a hypocritical, sanctimonious and partisan hack. Which sure fits doesn't it?
 
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How else would you cover the shit show *circus* that was Kavanaughs hearing?
You know Last Week Today is in deep contrast to Fox news, "that guy" uses *facts* and then makes a funny ... Fox News makes shit up and then sells it as hardcore truth.
I really do pity you. Lost soul.

Just to help you. Although since you claim to be from someplace in Europe i'm not sure why it would matter to you. You're already shoulder deep in shit over there.

 

JEDIYoda

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Are still planning to vote for creepy Joe Biden if he's the Democratic nominee? If so you obviously don't care.
That is your reason for voting for Trump? Because Biden is "creepyz"?
Trump is 100 times creepier....we have a commander in chief who is a liar and a cheat and cheated on his wife and screwed a porn star and then paid her to stfu! then he lied about the Biden`s and the Ukraine! Then we have a President who was impeached by the House!
We have President who called the Corona Virus a HOAX, many times!
We have a President who has the american peoples blood on his hands due to his telling Govenor`s they must be nice to him or no aid! plus he lied about giving aid ypo states and then he send broken ventilators to some states! Then at every news conference he lies and is not at all honest with the American public...sort of like you!!
Do we need to go on??
Biden si by far more appealing than our shit stain of a president ever will be!!
 

Aegeon

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So, she didn't turn over her therapist's notes ............. right?
So in other words you admit the Senate had the ability to access the notes if they really wanted them enough and you can't possibly come up with an explanation on why the therapist would have risked perjury charges lying like this.

If you give the same latitude about being afraid or concerned about coming forward to Ford, you have to give the same leeway to Reade. Unless of course you're a hypocritical, sanctimonious and partisan hack. Which sure fits doesn't it?
So in other you have admitted you can't possibly justify your position, although I do have to give you credit for your admission of your personal behavior with your last two sentences...

As I previously noted, the situation for Reade is indisputably vastly more problematic in this area. I never said anything about the issue being a mere delay in going public. The problem was how she was repeatedly praising Biden over the years including going out of her way to specifically praise Biden for his work to stop sexual assaults, including fairly close time-wise before she went public with her accusation. If Ford had repeatedly over the years public specifically praised Kavanaugh for his work dealing with and deterring behavior that led to sexual assault situations and then suddenly came out with such accusation, I would have thought the situation looked quite sketchy and would have pretty skeptical at a minimum of her specific claims.
 

JSt0rm

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Are still planning to vote for creepy Joe Biden if he's the Democratic nominee? If so you obviously don't care.

yes we all know the reason you are working so hard on this is to get people to not vote for Joe. Did you think you were hiding that before or something?
 

Jhhnn

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You're either being deceptive at this point or did not do your research.

She did specifically later commit to turning over the original notes completely as soon as the FBI committed to a full investigation in a way that did not actually happen. Furthermore, the Senate had the power to force her to turn over the notes if necessary even if you argue she would have outright broken her agreement if that occurred. This means the risk of the therapist in particular facing perjury or comparable charges (if not Ford herself) absolutely existed if those notes were not actually from 2012, and you what you posted in no way changed that.

By contrast, when we get to weakness of Tara Reade's claim, we have the reality at this point that she has effectively already admired to lying to the public about any alleged encounter with Joe Biden. The version she is now claiming still has her altering what she said publicly about her encounter with Biden previously because she thought it would be more likely to be believed before now asserting this new version of events, but still has her being untruthful with the public which is clearly a problem with her credibility.

We also have the underlying fact that in spite of Joe Biden's prominent in national politics since 1973 including previous presidential runs and being Obama's Vice-President twice, no-one else has come forward with a comparable claim of something like digital penetration or something actually in the same type of category. Simply put arguably overtly familiar touching in the way the other involved individuals objected to in no way resembles that. You certainly would have expected others to come forward with their stories by now if this was part of a pattern of behavior. (I suppose in theory you could argue this was a one off action from Biden, but even Tara Reade's own story seems highly inconsistent with such an idea.)

Other point worth noting is Tara Reade went out of her way to praise Biden until very recently, including specifically his actions in stopping sexual assaults against women as recently as 2017.

Even if you assume she was simply not willing to come forward with what happened with her at the time, it still seems to defy belief that she would go out of her way to support praise of him specifically in this area if she had been previously sexually assaulted by him. In fact doing so would at least be pretty close to outright deceiving the public again if you buy her latest claim.

In other words those of who are a highly skeptical of Tara Reade's story have very good reasons to be so at this point.

You certainly come across as unbelievably partisan and willing to try to distort even the basic established facts to try to justify your partisanship and how you treat the two sets of accusations.

So, Taj is a troll (we all knew that) & Tara Reade is some kind of a flake, right?
 
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So in other words you admit the Senate had the ability to access the notes if they really wanted them enough and you can't possibly come up with an explanation on why the therapist would have risked perjury charges lying like this.


So in other you have admitted you can't possibly justify your position, although I do have to give you credit for your admission of your personal behavior with your last two sentences...

As I previously noted, the situation for Reade is indisputably vastly more problematic in this area. I never said anything about the issue being a mere delay in going public. The problem was how she was repeatedly praising Biden over the years including going out of her way to specifically praise Biden for his work to stop sexual assaults, including fairly close time-wise before she went public with her accusation. If Ford had repeatedly over the years public specifically praised Kavanaugh for his work dealing with and deterring behavior that led to sexual assault situations and then suddenly came out with such accusation, I would have thought the situation looked quite sketchy and would have pretty skeptical at a minimum of her specific claims.
No, what I said is she didn't turn over her therapist's notes to the FBI and they were never verified. End of the story. They were never verified and hence, not admissible as evidence.
No, you keep trying to put words in my post that I never said and/or agreed to. She never allowed the FBI to read her therapist's notes or........OR the notes from the "lie detector" that her lawyer hired. Again, not admissible.

You are quite welcome to smear, lie about, monkey dance, tap dance, impugn and slime all the different victims of Joe Biden you care to lie about. Feel free, just get the off the sanctimonious, self righteous high horse.
 
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Did you ever see the clip of Creepy Uncle Joe Biden and Senator my excellent compatriot's daughter?


check it out.

See the look on her face? Yeah, she knows what Uncle Joe is doing.

Like your king is above Biden...HA !View attachment 18943
 

Aegeon

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They were never verified and hence, not admissible as evidence.
I don't see how this is supposed to be even conceivably an argument. The Senate and Trump with the FBI choose to limit their investigation and of course what occurred was not an actual trial, so this is a silly point. It certainly was admissible as evidence if the Senate in particular truly wanted it. (What they wanted was to confirm Kavanaugh quickly and not risk what might come up with a more complete investigation.)

You have been helpful in showing how comparatively weak the case is for Tara Reade vs the accusations against Kavanaugh and how clearly indefensible your position actually. Engaging in obvious libel against members of this forum on top of Democrats in general is not going to impress anyone.
 

Jhhnn

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Nope, i'm just rubbing your face in the matter that creepy Uncle Joe Biden is a serial sexual assaulter and you're angry about it.

I'm not angry. I'm amused. This is playing out about as well as Trump's accusations of corruption in Ukraine, an exercise in the big lie that falls flat. Reade's sincerity is no greater than your own, which is none at all.
 
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I don't see how this is supposed to be even conceivably an argument. The Senate and Trump with the FBI choose to limit their investigation and of course what occurred was not an actual trial, so this is a silly point. It certainly was admissible as evidence if the Senate in particular truly wanted it. (What they wanted was to confirm Kavanaugh quickly and not risk what might come up with a more complete investigation.)

You have been helpful in showing how comparatively weak the case is for Tara Reade vs the accusations against Kavanaugh and how clearly indefensible your position actually. Engaging in obvious libel against members of this forum on top of Democrats in general is not going to impress anyone.
Christine Blasey Ford at anytime could have released the notes her therapist took or the notes the "lie detector" took at the time he administered the test in order to verify some of the claims that were made. She chose not to do so. They were never verified. You keep pretending they were.
 
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I'm not angry. I'm amused. This is playing out about as well as Trump's accusations of corruption in Ukraine, an exercise in the big lie that falls flat. Reade's sincerity is no greater than your own, which is none at all.
Well she was a Democratic Senators staffer, so it's a pretty low bar.
 

Aegeon

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They were never verified. You keep pretending they were.
This is clearly not what is happening. What I have noted noted multiple times was the Senate had the ability to clearly verify the authenticity of the notes or not (at least in terms of when they were written) and you clearly are not attempting to explain why the therapist would risk this happening by falsifying them and potentially facing the consequences of doing so. The therapist had no way to know the Senate would not ultimately insist on a through enough investigation where they would at least get ahold of the physical notes and do a forensic examination. This is what is the relevant point and you keep blatantly trying to deflect attention away from this detail by trying to raise other issues.
 

cytg111

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Did you ever see the clip of Creepy Uncle Joe Biden and Senator my excellent compatriot's daughter?


check it out.

See the look on her face? Yeah, she knows what Uncle Joe is doing.

You are one disturbed puppy. Seriously. Wtf was wrong with that clip?
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Are still planning to vote for creepy Joe Biden if he's the Democratic nominee? If so you obviously don't care.
So that means you won't be voting for rapist Trump and self admitted sexual predator Trump?

We already know the current guy is incompetent and doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself.

I'll cast my lot for the guy who at least is a decent human being and cares about people.
 

sandorski

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This thread makes me shake my head. A case of Both Sides being wrong for the same reasons. Anyway, this seems pertinent.

 
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