The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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JSt0rm

Lifer
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In the United States the burden of proof is on the accuser, i guess you Russians don't know about that.

BTW Tara Reade as a staffer for creepy Uncle Joe Biden knows where the sexual assault happened, when the sexual assault by Joe Biden happened and she informed her mother, brother and a friend that it happened, when it happened. Her brother and the friend have both corroborated her story. You can smear her all you want, you can try to destroy the woman if that's the way hypocrites like you roll. Just don't play the sanctimonious little lefty with me again.

you are fake.
 

blankslate

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I signed it.

So should you if you don't support sexual predators... or if you ever railed against the Trump for talking about grabbing someone by their pussy or allegations of sexual misconduct against him or you said Kavanaugh should be disqualified from serving as a Justice on the Highest Court of the U.S.

that's all.



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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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I signed it.

So should you if you don't support sexual predators... or if you ever railed against the Trump for talking about grabbing someone by their pussy or allegations of sexual misconduct against him or you said Kavanaugh should be disqualified from serving as a Justice on the Highest Court of the U.S.

that's all.



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I'll bet you fell for the Ukrainian corruption lie, too.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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I signed it.

So should you if you don't support sexual predators... or if you ever railed against the Trump for talking about grabbing someone by their pussy or allegations of sexual misconduct against him or you said Kavanaugh should be disqualified from serving as a Justice on the Highest Court of the U.S.

that's all.



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Won't go anywhere, and it shouldn't. I'm not a Biden fan by any means, but he is the most palatable candidate the democrats could come up with. The charge against him should have been made when the alleged attack took place, not years later and at a time when it can do him the most damage.
I'm far more concerned about his clearly failing mind. Though even that can be mitigated by choosing a solid VP and putting together a quality cabinet.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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I signed it.

So should you if you don't support sexual predators... or if you ever railed against the Trump for talking about grabbing someone by their pussy or allegations of sexual misconduct against him or you said Kavanaugh should be disqualified from serving as a Justice on the Highest Court of the U.S.

that's all.



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We know you don’t actually care about sexual violence.
 
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MtnMan

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By sexual assault you mean "grab them by the pussy?" Oh wait... wrong guy
 

blankslate

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2008
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We know you don’t actually care about sexual violence.

then what is my real name or where do I live...

that's right you don't know jack about it.

so it's quite funny to see you pretend that you do.


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zzyzxroad

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Won't go anywhere, and it shouldn't. I'm not a Biden fan by any means, but he is the most palatable candidate the democrats could come up with. The charge against him should have been made when the alleged attack took place, not years later and at a time when it can do him the most damage.
I'm far more concerned about his clearly failing mind. Though even that can be mitigated by choosing a solid VP and putting together a quality cabinet.
Remember when people were concerned that Hillary was on her death bed?
 

senseamp

Lifer
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“He used to put his hand on my shoulder and run his finger up my neck,” Reade said. “I would just kind of freeze and wait for him to stop doing that.”
So Biden's being accused of far less than what Trump bragged about doing?
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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“He used to put his hand on my shoulder and run his finger up my neck,” Reade said. “I would just kind of freeze and wait for him to stop doing that.”
So Biden's being accused of far less than what Trump bragged about doing?

Sexual Assault victims often do no not just give a full account of their circumstance out of the shame they feel from it.
 

senseamp

Lifer
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Sexual Assault victims often do no not just give a full account of their circumstance out of the shame they feel from it.
Right now, she's claiming he touched her neck 27 years ago. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but I am not going to imagine a sexual assault if even she is not claiming it, unless Biden brags about it to Billy Bush. Also, according to the Larry King caller who may have been her mother, she didn't come forward out of respect for the senator, so whatever that senator did was not sufficient for her to lose respect for him. Now, if a senator grabbed her by the pussy without her consent, I doubt she would still respect him, but what do I know. If you are famous, they let you do it, from what I heard.
 
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Blackjack200

Lifer
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Sexual Assault victims often do no not just give a full account of their circumstance out of the shame they feel from it.

he‘s quite reasonable about this, thinks that Biden should be carefully investigated and questioned on this since he’s applying for an important job.


oh wait that was Kavanaugh.
 

senseamp

Lifer
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he‘s quite reasonable about this, thinks that Biden should be carefully investigated and questioned on this since he’s applying for an important job.


oh wait that was Kavanaugh.
There is no sexual assault accusation here, and Kavanaugh got the job despite having a credible one. But sure, investigate away, if Trump is also investigated for who he grabbed by the pussy. Maybe there is something to it, but as I see it, Biden is being accused of doing in 1993 what Trump bragged about doing in 2016, so it's not going to change my vote one way or another.
 
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senseamp

Lifer
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OK, I read conflicting things. One was touching on the neck, the other one was Trump style grab them by the pussy thing.
But her mother said she didn't go to media out of respect for the senator, so not sure what to make of it. I mean if he sexually assaulted her, why would she still have respect for him?
Anyways, investigate away. Maybe Dems will change the nominee if there is meat to this story, which would be fine by me, as long as Bernie is out. I am voting straight ticket Democrat.
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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Joe is old. Give Joe a break. And we all know how this works when republicans fear a democratic victory, the lies start flowing. It was called DIRTY TRICKS when the republicans tried this during Nixon. All that Joe needs to do is pick an excellent VP to run with. NOT Warren or some other candidate that feels themself "entitled", but someone as VP like Andrew Cuomo. Or, the governor of Washington state Jay Inslee. Both Cuomo and Inslee were WAY AHEAD of Donald Trump and the Trump administration from the very beginning concerning the virus. Either governor would make an excellent VP to Joe Biden AND get Joe Biden elected. Come November the virus will be EVERYTHING. How the leaders reacted to the outbreak and how they controlled it. Obviously, Donald Trump and Mike Pence failed miserably. Joe would be much better especially with allowing the federal government to promote testing. And both Cuomo and Inslee would have all the experience necessary to not only keep America safe, but just in case another virus pandemic hits in the future. Come November 2020, voters will not care about SEX, voters will want leaders that are SMART. By then, I think America would have learned her lesson.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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OK, I read conflicting things. One was touching on the neck, the other one was Trump style grab them by the pussy thing.
But her mother said she didn't go to media out of respect for the senator, so not sure what to make of it. I mean if he sexually assaulted her, why would she still have respect for him?
Anyways, investigate away. Maybe Dems will change the nominee if there is meat to this story, which would be fine by me, as long as Bernie is out. I am voting straight ticket Democrat.

Is this your first Sexual Assault scenario? There is nothing strange about her actions in this case, it is very common for Sexual Assault victims to respond this way.
 

dank69

Lifer
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That clip says absolutely nothing. Like...nothing.
Yeah I don't get these people. They are acting like they got her on tape confirming the penetration when all she said is her daughter had a problem. She could have been referencing the hair sniffing and shoulder touching. She could have been referencing the harassment by other staff.

But the praising of Putin? The likely possibility that a bad actor has paid her to adjust her story since we know people already tried to smear Mueller the same way?

As always, I say investigate away, but let's not pretend there aren't already red flags, and way less corroboration than there was with Kavanaugh.
 

interchange

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Oct 10, 1999
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It would be really bad is political figures had the power to launch investigations into the personal lives of their political opponents outside of their constitutional duties and within the rules of their house of Congress (when applicable). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to recognize that such an idea is an invitation for massive abuse, and such activities are favorites of dictators to maintain their power.

In the case of Kavanaugh, the Senate had a constitutional duty to confirm his appointment, and there was a complaintant testifying under oath bounded by the rules of the Senate. The same duty does not exist to confirm Presidents much less candidates.

So who would have the grounds to investigate? Has she made a complaint to the police? If so, they should do their diligence to interview relevant witnesses and pursue any other evidence. Based on what she presented to the media, I don't think that there is anything that will result which comes close to charging him with a crime.

What's left? For one, the media. Check. That hasn't gotten very far. Probably because of the red flags from her background discussed here and the paucity of evidence supporting the claim otherwise.

Why hasn't she taken the claim to civil court? The article says this caused major harm to her career aspirations. The burden of proof in civil court is far less. There doesn't seem to be any form of forensic evidence, etc., where a civil claim wouldn't elicit all the evidence. But I'm guessing there's a statue of limitations issue here.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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Yeah I don't get these people. They are acting like they got her on tape confirming the penetration when all she said is her daughter had a problem. She could have been referencing the hair sniffing and shoulder touching. She could have been referencing the harassment by other staff.

But the praising of Putin? The likely possibility that a bad actor has paid her to adjust her story since we know people already tried to smear Mueller the same way?

As always, I say investigate away, but let's not pretend there aren't already red flags, and way less corroboration than there was with Kavanaugh.

It's more confirmation that something happened. Presuming it was her Mother. I swear, some of you are reading off the same script Kavanaugh defenders were. Let us remember that she was first dismissed as a complete fraud, now it's just one attempt after another to excuse away confirmed details. That should cause you to pause, seriously.
 
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