The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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eelw

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Come November 2020, voters will not care about SEX, voters will want leaders that are SMART. By then, I think America would have learned her lesson.
But really it should. How can evangelicals look past sexual assault allegations Trumpity Dumpity has? Excuse, I’m not voting for him for Pope. All because he’s flipped and now says he’s pro life. Good enough for them.

On the other side, like yes I get point from the never Bideners. Shouldn’t the dems hold their candidate to a higher standard? But like I said in the Bernie Bros topic. How STUPID can you be to still want shine a light into the body re-elected? Obama found nothing wrong with creepy Joe and still picked him to run with him. And why this allegation never came out when he was the sitting VP? Like most say, this stinks of political smear job.
 

Jhhnn

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OK, I read conflicting things. One was touching on the neck, the other one was Trump style grab them by the pussy thing.
But her mother said she didn't go to media out of respect for the senator, so not sure what to make of it. I mean if he sexually assaulted her, why would she still have respect for him?
Anyways, investigate away. Maybe Dems will change the nominee if there is meat to this story, which would be fine by me, as long as Bernie is out. I am voting straight ticket Democrat.

Don't be a chump. Who says it's Tara's mother on the phone? Tara. Who says the woman was talking about Biden? Tara. Who dug out the clip? The Daily Caller.
 

fskimospy

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It's more confirmation that something happened. Presuming it was her Mother. I swear, some of you are reading off the same script Kavanaugh defenders were. Let us remember that she was first dismissed as a complete fraud, now it's just one attempt after another to excuse away confirmed details. That should cause you to pause, seriously.
Is this a joke?
 

sandorski

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Don't be a chump. Who says it's Tara's mother on the phone? Tara. Who says the woman was talking about Biden? Tara. Who dug out the clip? The Daily Caller.

How many Mothers in San Luis Obispo California had daughters working for US Senators in the early 1990s. Besides Tara Reades anyway. I'm gonna go out on a lib and guess not too many.
 

fskimospy

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I am dumbfounded on how so many have completely lost the plot here.
I’m genuinely confused as to what you’re trying to argue here. A random unidentified caller to Larry King is now somehow analogous to sworn testimony before Congress?

I’m genuinely confused as to if you’re trying to make fun of conservatives here or if you’re being serious.
 
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fskimospy

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Guys I know you had sworn testimony as to sexual assaults by Kavanaugh and multiple other witnesses willing to testify that he perjured himself but an anonymous woman called Larry King and vaguely alluded to something so really it’s the same thing.
 

eelw

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I am dumbfounded on how so many have completely lost the plot here.
Yeah the plot is anyone but Trump. Him in charge for another 4 years still affects us up here in Canada. Trudeau would have far better relationship with Biden vs the big orange baby.
 

Blackjack200

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I’m genuinely confused as to what you’re trying to argue here. A random unidentified caller to Larry King is now somehow analogous to sworn testimony before Congress?

I’m genuinely confused as to if you’re trying to make fun of conservatives here or if you’re being serious.

I’m glad you agree that both Reade and Biden should testify under oath about these allegations.

if there are nothing to these allegations, Biden should have nothing to be afraid of and Reade would have to choose between admitting the truth and perjuring herself.
 

fskimospy

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I’m glad you agree that both Reade and Biden should testify under oath about these allegations.

if there are nothing to these allegations, Biden should have nothing to be afraid of and Reade would have to choose between admitting the truth and perjuring herself.
I don’t care about Biden so much as the allegations are pretty thin, she’s changed her story, etc., but sure, let’s have Reade testify under oath.

The weird part to me is the Bernie dead-enders pretending that some anonymous Larry King call is equivalent to the evidence against Kavanaugh. It’s some weird fantasy world wishful thinking.
 

soundforbjt

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I’m glad you agree that both Reade and Biden should testify under oath about these allegations.

if there are nothing to these allegations, Biden should have nothing to be afraid of and Reade would have to choose between admitting the truth and perjuring herself.
Why should he testify when he hasn't been charged with anything? How about we have him testify right after Trump does to his 20+ accusers?
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fskimospy

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Why should he testify when he hasn't been charged with anything?
It’s kind of funny that self proclaimed liberals think Biden should testify under oath (before Congress presumably) about a single shaky accusation but apparently have no such standard for Trump, home to dozens of much stronger accusations.

Guys, Bernie is toast. He lost. He endorsed Biden, time to suck it up and get Biden elected for the sake of the country.
 

soundforbjt

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It’s kind of funny that self proclaimed liberals think Biden should testify under oath (before Congress presumably) about a single shaky accusation but apparently have no such standard for Trump, home to dozens of much stronger accusations.

Guys, Bernie is toast. He lost. He endorsed Biden, time to suck it up and get Biden elected for the sake of the country.
They're just super-pissed this year because the realization is sinking in that this was Bernie's last chance.
 

Blackjack200

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It’s kind of funny that self proclaimed liberals think Biden should testify under oath (before Congress presumably) about a single shaky accusation but apparently have no such standard for Trump, home to dozens of much stronger accusations.

Guys, Bernie is toast. He lost. He endorsed Biden, time to suck it up and get Biden elected for the sake of the country.

What a strange assumption. The reason we don't discuss Trump is because the evidence is overwhelming and we've come to accept that his supporters will continue to support him regardless. That said, of course if there was a chance to have Trump testify under oath about the accusations, that would be great.

I'm surprised that's the same boat you want to put Biden in, but maybe at some level you realize how credible this accusation really is.

And I"m not sure why you're bringing up Bernie, the primary is effectively over. Even if, by some strange turn of events, Biden dropped out, I'm under no delusion that the nomination would fall to Sanders. We both know that would not happen.
 

sandorski

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I’m genuinely confused as to what you’re trying to argue here. A random unidentified caller to Larry King is now somehow analogous to sworn testimony before Congress?

I’m genuinely confused as to if you’re trying to make fun of conservatives here or if you’re being serious.

A random unidentified call from a town no one heard of where Tara's mother lived is one hell of a coincidence, don't you think?
 

sandorski

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It's not like anyone could go to the town and make a call from there...that's just crazy talk.


This is Obamas birth place faked levels of nuttery. So somebody calls Larry King from Tara Reades Moms town nearly 40 years ago talking about a Daughter fired by a US Senator for some sexual impropriety, but it's totally someone else with a different Daughter and Senator? Come on.
 

fskimospy

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A random unidentified call from a town no one heard of where Tara's mother lived is one hell of a coincidence, don't you think?
Did you listen to the contents of the call? It was vague allusions from an unidentified person. If I tried to think of a thinner piece of evidence to cling to I don’t know what that would be. You’re in desperation wishful thinking mode.

By the way I’m not sure if you’ve seen the recent polls but Biden is doing quite well. Has this caused you to reconsider anything?
 

fskimospy

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What a strange assumption. The reason we don't discuss Trump is because the evidence is overwhelming and we've come to accept that his supporters will continue to support him regardless. That said, of course if there was a chance to have Trump testify under oath about the accusations, that would be great.

So we are pretending politics don’t exist or something? Did you forget the Benghazi hearings or something?

I'm surprised that's the same boat you want to put Biden in, but maybe at some level you realize how credible this accusation really is.

I’m not engaging in motivated reasoning like you so no, this accusation is not particularly credible

And I"m not sure why you're bringing up Bernie, the primary is effectively over. Even if, by some strange turn of events, Biden dropped out, I'm under no delusion that the nomination would fall to Sanders. We both know that would not happen.
Because you on some level want Biden to lose so you can say you were right. Surely you know that.
 

Blackjack200

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So we are pretending politics don’t exist or something? Did you forget the Benghazi hearings or something?

...what? What do the Benghazi hearings have to do with anything?

I’m not engaging in motivated reasoning like you so no, this accusation is not particularly credible

I'm just surprised you're so ready to compare Biden's behavior to Trump's.

Because you on some level want Biden to lose so you can say you were right. Surely you know that.

Right about what? I'm on record here that I believe Biden can win the GE. Yes, I believe it's quite clear that Sanders would be a stronger candidate, but Trump remains historically unpopular and we have world events going on right now that are so serious we don't even know what the country will look like by November.
 

fskimospy

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...what? What do the Benghazi hearing have to do with anything?
That much should be obvious.

I'm just surprised you're so ready to compare Biden's behavior to Trump's.

Huh? I was saying why they aren’t comparable.

Right about what? I'm on record here that I believe Biden can win the GE. Yes, I believe it's quite clear that Sanders would be a stronger candidate, but Trump remains historically unpopular and we have world events going on right now that are so serious we don't even know what the country will look like by November.
I think you’re mad at other liberals for not nominating Sanders.
 

sandorski

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Did you listen to the contents of the call? It was vague allusions from an unidentified person. If I tried to think of a thinner piece of evidence to cling to I don’t know what that would be. You’re in desperation wishful thinking mode.

By the way I’m not sure if you’ve seen the recent polls but Biden is doing quite well. Has this caused you to reconsider anything?

It's just one more confirmation of her story. Her allegations are at least as confirmed as Dr Ford's were at this point.
 

fskimospy

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It's just one more confirmation of her story. Her allegations are at least as confirmed as Dr Ford's were at this point.
Yes, that unidentified caller alluding to an unnamed person and undescribed event really put her over the top.

If you actually think allegations from a person who changed their story midstream is equivalent to testimony under oath that Kavanaugh felt necessary to perjure himself to rebut then you’re engaging in Trumpkin style motivated reasoning.
 

fskimospy

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Maybe I’ll try and dig up my post but I remember writing something to the effect of that credible idiots and disingenuous people on the right would try and compare sexual allegations against Democrats as being the same as those against Kavanaugh regardless of their merit. Thanks, Sandorski for proving me right.
 
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