The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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It's more confirmation that something happened. Presuming it was her Mother. I swear, some of you are reading off the same script Kavanaugh defenders were. Let us remember that she was first dismissed as a complete fraud, now it's just one attempt after another to excuse away confirmed details. That should cause you to pause, seriously.

Can you provide specific reference to a person who has acted this way? I would expect there to be some difference in opinion of how to judge the reference, but first I want to see what evidence you have to support what you're saying.

As to the Larry King call, what is there to say? Presuming it is legitimate, it would seem to best support her initial allegation similar to others that Biden has serial boundary violations with women he has a working relationship with and has made them uncomfortable in a way that aligns with sexual harassment in the workplace.
 

Blackjack200

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Can you provide specific reference to a person who has acted this way? I would expect there to be some difference in opinion of how to judge the reference, but first I want to see what evidence you have to support what you're saying.

As to the Larry King call, what is there to say? Presuming it is legitimate, it would seem to best support her initial allegation similar to others that Biden has serial boundary violations with women he has a working relationship with and has made them uncomfortable in a way that aligns with sexual harassment in the workplace.

Here's one. There are similar posts throughout this thread. http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/the-joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation.2578709/post-40113085
 

sandorski

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Maybe I’ll try and dig up my post but I remember writing something to the effect of that credible idiots and disingenuous people on the right would try and compare sexual allegations against Democrats as being the same as those against Kavanaugh regardless of their merit. Thanks, Sandorski for proving me right.

A you have proven is that you are a hypocrite. Just admit it, this is nothing more than Political Expedience for you. The truth/falsity of the allegations have no bearing on your opinion in this situation.
 

fskimospy

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A you have proven is that you are a hypocrite. Just admit it, this is nothing more than Political Expedience for you. The truth/falsity of the allegations have no bearing on your opinion in this situation.
Sorry, I’m not engaging in motivated reasoning because my candidate lost like you are. You know as well as I do that you want Biden to lose out of spite to show that you were right. This is infantile and you need to grow up.

I’m fully open to investigating if these allegations are true or not. So far they look very shaky but I’m open to changing my mind if more evidence comes out. I don’t find an unnamed caller alluding to an unnamed senator not describing anything about the event as compelling evidence because, well, duh.
 

sandorski

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Sorry, I’m not engaging in motivated reasoning because my candidate lost like you are. You know as well as I do that you want Biden to lose out of spite to show that you were right. This is infantile and you need to grow up.

I’m fully open to investigating if these allegations are true or not. So far they look very shaky but I’m open to changing my mind if more evidence comes out. I don’t find an unnamed caller alluding to an unnamed senator not describing anything about the event as compelling evidence because, well, duh.

This isn't about me. A woman has alleged Sexual Assault and there are good reasons to believe her. You, otoh, don't want to deal with the issue honestly, but want it to just go away.
 

fskimospy

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This isn't about me. A woman has alleged Sexual Assault and there are good reasons to believe her. You, otoh, don't want to deal with the issue honestly, but want it to just go away.
Of course it is about you, you’ve allowed your personal anger about your candidate losing to make you irrationally evaluate the available evidence.

By all means continue to investigate the matter, I am in favor of this! Just don’t expect the rest of us to behave similarly irrationally where we take an unnamed caller talking about an unnamed staffer of an unnamed senator, alluding to an undescribed event as particularly compelling evidence.
 

sandorski

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Of course it is about you, you’ve allowed your personal anger about your candidate losing to make you irrationally evaluate the available evidence.

By all means continue to investigate the matter, I am in favor of this! Just don’t expect the rest of us to behave similarly irrationally where we take an unnamed caller talking about an unnamed staffer of an unnamed senator, alluding to an undescribed event as particularly compelling evidence.

See, you are doing to me what you are doing to her. Making up excuses to simply ignore what is being said. It is absurd to think that this phone call is meaningless in regards to these allegations as they confirm, once again, her story.
 

fskimospy

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See, you are doing to me what you are doing to her. Making up excuses to simply ignore what is being said. It is absurd to think that this phone call is meaningless in regards to these allegations as they confirm, once again, her story.
You’re projecting.

If you think an unnamed caller describing an unnamed person saying something about an unnamed senator where they don’t say anything about the event in question confirms her story that’s up to you. I will not be joining you in crazytown however, haha.
 

TheVrolok

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See, you are doing to me what you are doing to her. Making up excuses to simply ignore what is being said. It is absurd to think that this phone call is meaningless in regards to these allegations as they confirm, once again, her story.
He has literally, and repeatedly, stated he would support further investigation. How can you not see that?

He's simply say that a vague call from an anonymous source is not high quality evidence? How is that even up for debate unless you're being intellectually dishonest?
 

sandorski

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You’re projecting.

If you think an unnamed caller describing an unnamed person saying something about an unnamed senator where they don’t say anything about the event in question confirms her story that’s up to you. I will not be joining you in crazytown however, haha.

Called from some small town where Tara's Mother lived about a US Senator that fired a Daughter. As I said before, what are the chances of all these things occurring and not be related to this story?

You are not trying to convince anyone other than yourself.
 

fskimospy

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Called from some small town where Tara's Mother lived about a US Senator that fired a Daughter. As I said before, what are the chances of all these things occurring and not be related to this story?

You are not trying to convince anyone other than yourself.
Even if it is the call says literally nothing about the event in question!

Seriously, take a step back and think about how insane you sound.
 

sandorski

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He has literally, and repeatedly, stated he would support further investigation. How can you not see that?

He's simply say that a vague call from an anonymous source is not high quality evidence? How is that even up for debate unless you're being intellectually dishonest?

There comes a point where one needs to Shit or get off the Pot. Unless someone can show that this Call is some Fake, what more needs to be confirmed with it?
 

sandorski

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Even if it is the call says literally nothing about the event in question!

Seriously, take a step back and think about how insane you sound.

You are the one pretending it is meaningless. It confirms that something had happened. Tara told others details back then and they also have confirmed that she had.

I am angry for the same reason many of us, probably even You, were angry when schmucks were defending Kavanaugh with the same innuendos and dismissals you seem all to eager to use now.
 

fskimospy

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You are the one pretending it is meaningless. It confirms that something had happened. Tara told others details back then and they also have confirmed that she had.

I’m not pretending anything, I’m saying it just does very little to confirm her story considering the caller mentions literally zero details. This is common sense.

I am angry for the same reason many of us, probably even You, were angry when schmucks were defending Kavanaugh with the same innuendos and dismissals you seem all to eager to use now.
I have made no innuendos and I have not dismissed her. You want this to be like Kavanaugh because you are mad Biden beat Sanders and you want it badly enough that you’ve decided to lie about how other people view it when they don’t agree with you.

Like I said you’re acting infantile. Grow up.
 

sandorski

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I’m not pretending anything, I’m saying it just does very little to confirm her story considering the caller mentions literally zero details. This is common sense.


I have made no innuendos and I have not dismissed her. You want this to be like Kavanaugh because you are mad Biden beat Sanders and you want it badly enough that you’ve decided to lie about how other people view it when they don’t agree with you.

Like I said you’re acting infantile. Grow up.

What is Common Sense is that things add up. Even in the Kavanaugh situation there was no Smoking Gun. Just many pieces that pointed to something that only Dr Ford knew the full details of.
 

Catriona

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Is there a link to a transcript or video of the Larry King call from the woman alleged to be Reade's mother? The report I read quotes the woman referring to her daughter leaving her job due to "problems". Nothing was mentioned about sexual harrassment or sexual assault.
 
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Jaskalas

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  1. It should be vetted whether that could be her mother on the call. It substantiates whether or not the allegation was made up "now", or was "always" out there.
  2. If the complaint is real, from 1993, we'll probably never know if it was simple Joe the creeper, or Joe the assaulter.
  3. We have good reason to think he abuses women's personal space. But whether he ever took it further remains a question.
 

NostaSeronx

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If Joe Biden drops out from whenever this eventually blows up or his overall health declines. Then, anyone who endorsed him shouldn't be up for the nomination.
 

TheVrolok

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There comes a point where one needs to Shit or get off the Pot. Unless someone can show that this Call is some Fake, what more needs to be confirmed with it?
The burden of proof is always on the positive, not the negative...

I'm not even sure Eski so definitively arguing that it's definitely NOT the mother, it seems his point is just that it's pretty low quality evidence (which it is as it stands), particularly compared to sworn testimony before congress.
 

Catriona

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If Joe Biden drops out from whenever this eventually blows up or his overall health declines. Then, anyone who endorsed him shouldn't be up for the nomination.

Haven't you noticed? Presidential candidates no longer withdraw as a result of sexual assault/harassment allegations. (See 2016 Presidential campaign.)
 

NostaSeronx

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Haven't you noticed? Presidential candidates no longer withdraw as a result of sexual assault/harassment allegations. (See 2016 Presidential campaign.)
Only for Republicans as they don't really care about liberal think. Cancel culture is a democrat thing, it will remain a democrat thing. Republicans want a strongman who flaunts the law of the nation like Poutiney and haz kanky sekz wit da womenz. I don't think true blue majority democrats will vote for anything but crispy clean, no dirt, never endorsed Biden candidates.
 
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