The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

[woolfe9998]

If the story is true, she has a built in reason not to support Biden. Thus her not supporting Biden does not indicate her story is false, probablistically or otherwise.

Except her position on issues aligns her with the progressive wing of the party. Which gives her another reason to tell this story. It's not like she supported a different moderate over Biden. According to her, she has supported Warren then Sanders.

There's also this that she wrote in December, in an article which was just recently deleted:

"I love Russia with all my heart ... President Putin scares the power elite in America because he is a compassionate, caring, visionary leader."

Tara Reade: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Tara Reade, who also goes by the name Alexandra Tara Reade, has alleged that Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden sexually assaulted her.

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Is she kidding? What kind of idiot would actually hold that opinion in good faith? Maybe this doesn't mean anything but one thing we do know is that Russia wants us to re-elect Trump. So who is the largest beneficiary of Reade's allegation right now?

I'm sorry but I will continue to be skeptical of allegations suddenly appearing against Biden during this election season, given who he will be running against and who is backing him.

 

[sandorski]

Except her position on issues aligns her with the progressive wing of the party. Which gives her another reason to tell this story. It's not like she supported a different moderate over Biden. According to her, she has supported Warren then Sanders.

There's also this that she wrote in December, in an article which was just recently deleted:

Tara Reade: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Tara Reade, who also goes by the name Alexandra Tara Reade, has alleged that Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden sexually assaulted her.

heavy.com

Is she kidding? What kind of idiot would actually hold that opinion in good faith? Maybe this doesn't mean anything but one thing we do know is that Russia wants us to re-elect Trump. So who is the largest beneficiary of Reade's allegation right now?

I'm sorry but I will continue to be skeptical of allegations suddenly appearing against Biden during this election season, given who he will be running against and who is backing him.

Being skeptical is good, but your reasoning is wanting.

 

[woolfe9998]

Being skeptical is good, but your reasoning is wanting.

Replying by saying someone's reasoning is bad without explaining yourself is arguing in bad faith. I have presented good reasons to question her story. If you don't think they're good reasons, then explain why.

 

[Jhhnn]

Except her position on issues aligns her with the progressive wing of the party. Which gives her another reason to tell this story. It's not like she supported a different moderate over Biden. According to her, she has supported Warren then Sanders.

There's also this that she wrote in December, in an article which was just recently deleted:

Tara Reade: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Tara Reade, who also goes by the name Alexandra Tara Reade, has alleged that Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden sexually assaulted her.

heavy.com

Is she kidding? What kind of idiot would actually hold that opinion in good faith? Maybe this doesn't mean anything but one thing we do know is that Russia wants us to re-elect Trump. So who is the largest beneficiary of Reade's allegation right now?

I'm sorry but I will continue to be skeptical of allegations suddenly appearing against Biden during this election season, given who he will be running against and who is backing him.

Bernie Bros fail at realizing they're being manipulated. They fell for the slime attacks against Hillary in 2016 & they're falling for the slime attacks against Biden today. I'm firmly convinced some of the most vocal are simply insincere agent provocateurs.

 

[Blackjack200]

Except her position on issues aligns her with the progressive wing of the party. Which gives her another reason to tell this story. It's not like she supported a different moderate over Biden. According to her, she has supported Warren then Sanders.

There's also this that she wrote in December, in an article which was just recently deleted:

Tara Reade: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Tara Reade, who also goes by the name Alexandra Tara Reade, has alleged that Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden sexually assaulted her.

heavy.com

Is she kidding? What kind of idiot would actually hold that opinion in good faith? Maybe this doesn't mean anything but one thing we do know is that Russia wants us to re-elect Trump. So who is the largest beneficiary of Reade's allegation right now?

I'm sorry but I will continue to be skeptical of allegations suddenly appearing against Biden during this election season, given who he will be running against and who is backing him.

This is a really good look.

 

[woolfe9998]

Bernie Bros fail at realizing they're being manipulated. They fell for the slime attacks against Hillary in 2016 & they're falling for the slime attacks against Biden today. I'm firmly convinced some of the most vocal are simply insincere agent provocateurs.

I think some of them will vote for Trump just to prove that only Sanders could have beaten him.

In this particular case, the telltale with Russia is screaming at us. What actual American political commentator would describe Putin as "compassionate" and "a visionary?" That's not being soft on Russia or agreeing with some of their policies like Gabbard. That is being adulatory. She had to know that writing this would subject her to extreme ridicule, and in fact her article was mysteriously deleted recently. Who would even write such a thing? Someone should check into her finances.

They're doing more than allowing themselves to be manipulated. They're propagating every piece of negative information they can find. We've seen it right here on P&N.

These are the same people who whined when Clinton criticized Sanders 6 weeks ago, when he was the presumptive nominee, claiming that what she said would hurt Bernie in the general election.

 

[sandorski]

Replying by saying someone's reasoning is bad without explaining yourself is arguing in bad faith. I have presented good reasons to question her story. If you don't think they're good reasons, then explain why.

None of those objections have anything to do with the allegations. They are peripheral details meant to assassinate her character.

 

[woolfe9998]

None of those objections have anything to do with the allegations. They are peripheral details meant to assassinate her character.

So what you're saying is, if a woman suddenly came out and accused Sanders of sexual assault from 18 years ago, right after he became the presumptive nominee, it wouldn't matter that she was (a) a Biden supporter, and (b) had made bizarrely adulatory remarks about Putin a few months back, in an article which was just now deleted?

If so, I simply do not believe you.

 

[sandorski]

Bernie Bros fail at realizing they're being manipulated. They fell for the slime attacks against Hillary in 2016 & they're falling for the slime attacks against Biden today. I'm firmly convinced some of the most vocal are simply insincere agent provocateurs.

You are quick to bring up "Bernie Bros". Are you certain it is not your bias blinding you? Think about it, there are always Pro/Con arguments when these types of issues are brought up. Of note was the relatively recent Kavanaugh allegations.

 

[sandorski]

So what you're saying is, if a woman suddenly came out and accused Sanders of sexual assault from 18 years ago, right after he became the presumptive nominee, it wouldn't matter that she was (a) a Biden supporter, and (b) had made bizarrely adulatory remarks about Putin a few months back, in an article which was just now deleted?

If so, I simply do not believe you.

I would have suspicion, but I would not dismiss the allegations.

Like I said earlier, she has made some claims that allow for further investigation and even a degree of verification. Those should be pursued.

 

[Jhhnn]

None of those objections have anything to do with the allegations. They are peripheral details meant to assassinate her character.

Or her atttack is an attempt to assassinate Biden's character like Trump's bullshit about Ukrainian corruption.

 

[sandorski]

Or her atttack is an attempt to assassinate Biden's character like Trump's bullshit about Ukrainian corruption.

Maybe, that's why an Investigation should be pursued.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

There's far more credible evidence against serial sexual predator Joe Biden than there has ever been against Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh. Including the victim knowing where it happened, when it happened, how she got there and having told her friend and brother about it when it happened. The fact that he was a sitting Senator at the time and she was an staffer/underling makes it worse. How about we go back through the Kavanaugh thread and see what some of you had to say about a similar situation except with far LESS evidence?

 

[Blackjack200]

It's quite funny to see that Biden supporters have no principles at all.

 

[Jhhnn]

Maybe, that's why an Investigation should be pursued.

I'm sure the media has & is doing so. They apparently can't corroborate it. And, uhh, in case you hadn't noticed it she's embellished her original account, thus rendering her testimony suspect.

A sexual assault allegation against Joe Biden has ignited controversy

A woman says Biden assaulted her in 1993 and has filed a criminal complaint.

www.vox.com

 

[woolfe9998]

I would have suspicion, but I would not dismiss the allegations.

Like I said earlier, she has made some claims that allow for further investigation and even a degree of verification. Those should be pursued.

So you would do exactly what I did, be suspicious without dismissing the allegations.

Sure, an investigation should be pursued. But I doubt it will yield anything in relation to her allegation, as that allegedly happened 27 years ago and she says there were no witnesses.

I have serious concerns about her statement regarding Putin because I don't think any commentator would ever write those words in good faith. So I think while they're investigating, her finances should be looked into.

 

[blackangst1]

If we learned anything about the "me too" movement, the woman needs to be believed.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Hmm...who is happier about this story? Trump fans or Bernie fans? Maybe it's a tie. This may be exactly the break the Bernie Sanders campaign is looking for!. Right on queue

If Biden did something like this and your first thoughts are, take these allegations seriously, investigate and ask him step down/resign. How many Trump voters in this thread and across the country will say that about their cult leader? it's not like Trump voters have thoroughly bought into a cult of personality or anything.

I guess we have learned what it takes for Republican voters to start listening to women: an allegation against a Democrat.

 

[Jhhnn]

If we learned anything about the "me too" movement, the woman needs to be believed.

Is there some part of her changing her story you don't understand? Does that not give you pause?

Please read the link I furnished above.

 

[blackangst1]

Is there some part of her changing her story you don't understand? Does that not give you pause?

Please read the link I furnished above.

It gives me pause when an accuser can't provide details of when and where. But still, the public doesn't care. We need to believe her.

 

[qliveur]

The good news here is that Joe will be able to honestly say "I have no memory of the incident".

Bah, ya joke thief, ya.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Is there some part of her changing her story you don't understand? Does that not give you pause?

Please read the link I furnished above.

Perhaps we can compare what you say in this thread to the ones you posted in Judge Kavanaugh threads? Should be an interesting comparison.

 

[shortylickens]

It gives me pause when an accuser can't provide details of when and where. But still, the public doesn't care. We need to believe her.

NO!!
All women should NOT be believed.
All women should be taken seriously.

 

[soundforbjt]

There's far more credible evidence against serial sexual predator Joe Biden than there has ever been against Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh. Including the victim knowing where it happened, when it happened, how she got there and having told her friend and brother about it when it happened. The fact that he was a sitting Senator at the time and she was an staffer/underling makes it worse. How about we go back through the Kavanaugh thread and see what some of you had to say about a similar situation except with far LESS evidence?

You say far LESS evidence, please post what you remember to be the evidence in the Kavanaugh hearing.

 

[interchange]

There's far more credible evidence against serial sexual predator Joe Biden than there has ever been against Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh. Including the victim knowing where it happened, when it happened, how she got there and having told her friend and brother about it when it happened. The fact that he was a sitting Senator at the time and she was an staffer/underling makes it worse. How about we go back through the Kavanaugh thread and see what some of you had to say about a similar situation except with far LESS evidence?

The evidence against Kavanaugh is far more compelling. By like, a whole lot.