The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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JEDIYoda

Lifer
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Which facts in the article are wrong? Is the video posted faked?
you always say that about weird and misleading links that you post. As if the above means a damn thing..
It is NOT our job to rebuff a flawed article! It is your job to be responsible enough to know better than to post such nonsense!
 

Meghan54

Lifer
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Still, one must ask why she wasn't this determined to have her story, and Biden's, put to the American public say.....way back when he was running on the Dem. ticket with Obama. Or during the 8 years Biden served as VP.....one must wonder why and ask why? Why now and not then?
 
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Blackjack200

Lifer
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Still, one must ask why she wasn't this determined to have her story, and Biden's, put to the American public say.....way back when he was running on the Dem. ticket with Obama. Or during the 8 years Biden served as VP.....one must wonder why and ask why? Why now and not then?

It really makes you wonder...
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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Still, one must ask why she wasn't this determined to have her story, and Biden's, put to the American public say.....way back when he was running on the Dem. ticket with Obama. Or during the 8 years Biden served as VP.....one must wonder why and ask why? Why now and not then?

Why did Dr Ford wait?
 

fskimospy

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The question is not why she waited, the question is why she had like five different versions of her story. Anyone who does not find that problematic is engaging in motivated reasoning.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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The question is not why she waited, the question is why she had like five different versions of her story. Anyone who does not find that problematic is engaging in motivated reasoning.

Yes yes, keep telling yourself that.
 

fskimospy

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Yes yes, keep telling yourself that.

I mean you already flat out admitted you're immune to evidence so you're exactly the type of person I was referring to.

By the way, has the fact that Biden is winning matchups against Trump by wide margins done anything to change your mind about his certain defeat? Wait, you already answered that - no evidence can change your mind.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
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I mean you already flat out admitted you're immune to evidence so you're exactly the type of person I was referring to.

Have you offered any evidence besides the Krassenstein's Medium post? Asking earnestly because if you have I'll look at it, but I went back about 10 pages or so and didn't see anything.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tara-reade-neighbor-joe-biden-sexual-assault_n_5ea71250c5b6a3f3edc37b41
Guess that call to Larry King was real. This isn't direct confirmation but further corroboration. Of what, well... this:

“She really didn’t feel there was anything she could do,” Reade’s former neighbor told Business Insider.
“She was crying,” LaCasse said. “She was upset. And the more she talked about it, the more she started crying. I remember saying that she needed to file a police report.”
“I remember the skirt,” LaCasse said. “I remember the fingers. I remember she was devastated.”

And this one claims to be a Democrat voter who just want to "protect" her friend from smears and attacks. Supposedly still voting for Biden. I assume that's in context of the general election. Shame there isn't a primary. Some sort of nomination process to choose someone qualified. Though I suppose an old doddling finger banger is the best we have.

How are we so broken, again? How did it come to this? Why is the leadership all in their 70s?
 

fskimospy

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Have you offered any evidence besides the Krassenstein's Medium post? Asking earnestly because if you have I'll look at it, but I went back about 10 pages or so and didn't see anything.
The evidence is her own public writings and statements on the subject, what else would be necessary? Are you saying those were fabricated?
 

eelw

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Ford only came forward when word came out Kavanaugh was being considered for SOTUS.

Women kept coming out about trump every few years.

Biden has been in the public eye far longer than either of them. So if these allegations should have come out back 10 years ago. Not conveniently now.
 
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fskimospy

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Ford only came forward when word came out Kavanaugh was being considered for SOTUS.

Women kept coming out about trump every few years.

Biden has been in the public eye far longer than either of them. So if these allegations should have come out back 10 years ago. Not conveniently now.
It is very odd and damaging to her credibility that she had no problem with him being a senator, no problem with him running for president before, and no problem with him being VP, but now that her favored candidate lost to him is now coming forward. Then when she comes forward she changes her story multiple times when previous accusations don't get traction.

Again, doesn't mean she must be lying but anyone who does not find that problematic is engaging in motivated reasoning. She has a very serious credibility problem.
 

NostaSeronx

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It is very odd and damaging to her credibility that she had no problem with him being a senator, no problem with him running for president before, and no problem with him being VP, but now that her favored candidate lost to him is now coming forward. Then when she comes forward she changes her story multiple times when previous accusations don't get traction.
While the #MeToo movement started in 2006. It didn't really start till 2015+, so at the time she would have been shamed further then than now.

If she was raped, it was her fault for being raped. Dressing like a whore like that, etc-etc. Oh she also has promiscuous mouth and said shes hate the figs. How can it be the powerful man's fault, to be so easily seduced by relatively attractive women that are younger than their wives.
 
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fskimospy

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While the #MeToo movement started in 2006. It didn't really start till 2015+, so at the time she would have been shamed further then than now.

That would make sense for her keeping quiet. Why do you think she instead repeatedly praised Biden for his defense of women?

If she was raped, it was her fault for being raped. Dressing like a whore like that, etc-etc. Oh she also has promiscuous mouth and said shes hate the figs.
Can you point to a single person who has made that argument here? If not, can you explain why you said this?
 

pauldun170

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So where do we go from here? Can the Biden camp continue to ignore this story, or will he have to make a statement and address specifics? Now isn’t the time I think (or is it the right time with everyone focused on Covid?) but he’ll probably have to address this directly at some point.

Nothing for me has changed since my first post—I’m still voting Biden in November if his name’s on the ballot.

An accusation has been made.
No more, no less.

He has made a statement. He denies it and asked journalist to investigate it.

If the accusation is false and never happened, what are Bidens options?
Does he pull a Trump and file a lawsuit?
So far his response seems about right.
He denied the accusation. He did not resort to attacks. He invite others to explore the accusation.
 

NostaSeronx

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Can you point to a single person who has made that argument here? If not, can you explain why you said this?
Anyone saying that she is a Russian op or question why now? Is equivalent to the back then sexist complaints to rape whistleblowers.
Why do you think she instead repeatedly praised Biden for his defense of women?
Biden's vocal support of women is definitely worth supporting. However, he hasn't actually done anything that wasn't in popular demand.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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It is very odd and damaging to her credibility that she had no problem with him being a senator, no problem with him running for president before, and no problem with him being VP, but now that her favored candidate lost to him is now coming forward. Then when she comes forward she changes her story multiple times when previous accusations don't get traction.

Again, doesn't mean she must be lying but anyone who does not find that problematic is engaging in motivated reasoning. She has a very serious credibility problem.

You claim she made up the story. That she embellished it upon retelling, to "get traction".
The neighbor tells the worst version of the story. Sexual assault. By her telling, that existed in 1993. Not later, not when it was convenient.

Maybe what you describe as changes is a person working up the courage to tell the truth in public.
 

amrnuke

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tara-reade-neighbor-joe-biden-sexual-assault_n_5ea71250c5b6a3f3edc37b41
Guess that call to Larry King was real. This isn't direct confirmation but further corroboration. Of what, well... this:

“She really didn’t feel there was anything she could do,” Reade’s former neighbor told Business Insider.
“She was crying,” LaCasse said. “She was upset. And the more she talked about it, the more she started crying. I remember saying that she needed to file a police report.”
“I remember the skirt,” LaCasse said. “I remember the fingers. I remember she was devastated.”

And this one claims to be a Democrat voter who just want to "protect" her friend from smears and attacks. Supposedly still voting for Biden. I assume that's in context of the general election. Shame there isn't a primary. Some sort of nomination process to choose someone qualified. Though I suppose an old doddling finger banger is the best we have.

How are we so broken, again? How did it come to this? Why is the leadership all in their 70s?
Because both Biden and Trump are good for the wealthy and for corporations. That's it.

We didn't have many great younger candidates who were known-knowns from a wealth/corporate standpoint like Biden and Trump.

While Buttigieg was likely closer to Biden than to Sanders, he is too much of an unknown for the establishment.
 

fskimospy

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Anyone saying that she is a Russian op or question why now? Is equivalent to the back then sexist complaints to rape whistleblowers.Biden's vocal support of women is definitely worth supporting. However, he hasn't actually done anything that wasn't in popular demand.
It really isn’t the same at all.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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You claim she made up the story. That she embellished it upon retelling, to "get traction".
The neighbor tells the worst version of the story. Sexual assault. By her telling, that existed in 1993. Not later, not when it was convenient.

Maybe what you describe as changes is a person working up the courage to tell the truth in public.
It could be! It is still very damaging to her credibility that her story has changed so many times, including elements not related to the alleged assault.

For example she has claimed four different reasons for why she left her job:

1) she left to be with her boyfriend.
2) she left due to us imperialism.
3) she left because of Biden but he didn’t know and wasn’t responsible.
4) Biden had her fired.

This is very problematic because it exhibits similar escalation and some of the reasons are mutually refuting.
 

eelw

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But if Biden can dispute the circumstances of how she left, they would have already. So unfortunately this part is fishy on his part.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
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The evidence is her own public writings and statements on the subject, what else would be necessary? Are you saying those were fabricated?

So the answer is no? You should post the evidence you are referring to instead of expecting us to search around for it.
 
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