I don’t understand why you think anyone is going to buy or believe this. You couldn’t refute my argument so you decided to try and make it about something else. It’s totally transparent.If I got caught red handed sharing chain-mail level garbage to smear a sexual assault victim, I'd probably just shut the fuck up. But that's just me. You do you.
The "bothsides" counter point you are making is tired. For many people there is really little difference, that's just a fact you need to grasp as what you value as differentiation of the 2 parties has no value to those needing Healthcare, Debt Relief, and other realworld issues. You are making a variation of the Dubyah argument of "Compassionate Conservatism", except it's more like "Kinder Centrism". "Centrism" being, Low Tax, Fiscal Conservatism, Pro-Corporate, Neo-Liberalism first popularized by Ronald Reagan. That experiment has increasingly ravaged each successive Generation that has lived under it. Which is why the <50 Demographic overwhelmingly supported Bernie over Biden.
I don’t understand why you think anyone is going to buy or believe this. You couldn’t refute my argument so you decided to try and make it about something else. It’s totally transparent.
Anyways you can have the last word on this if you want. I’ll continue to post in this thread but I’m not going to respond to your childish stupidity on this anymore.
None I guess. Though it would be nice if he didn't do it.He could rape a woman on 5th Avenue and they'd vote for him, so what's the difference?
Blue-Anon is when liberals are talking about Russia shit, analogous to Qanon. Blue MAGA is when liberals are just shitting themselves in general, like MAGA chuds. Now you know, don't you feel special.
Republicans ARE worse than Democrats, but Democrats are not the solution to this nations problems. The impeachment proved that to me, along with everything else Donald has gotten away with.
We need a real solution and its not making itself apparent at this time.
Yup baby steps. Reverse the damage from the last 3 years then see where to go from there. Why the far left think such drastic changes will happen immediatelySweet fucking Jesus. The answer is to vote the GOP out of power. We'll get nowhere until we do.
So you're Bernie Anon? Or just Bernie MAGA? I mean, wtf do you think? That Dems will abandon Biden over the accusations of a flaky persona like Tara Reade?
Yes, if people think that electing Democrats is not the answer that’s fine but in that case they should explain the basic process by which they think they will achieve better results. In my experience the answers range from magical thinking (everyone will realize the far left is right and vote them in) to downright horrifying (allow the country to collapse into right wing authoritarianism and then the revolution will come).Yup baby steps. Reverse the damage from the last 3 years then see where to go from there. Why the far left think such drastic changes will happen immediately
Exquisite bullshit. You're actually claiming Reagan was a centrist? And that I am too? The first thing that needs to happen is that we need to strip the GOP of Power. They've been winning at top down class warfare for 40 years behind a screen of insincerity & divisive culture war issues. They have a radical right wing agenda to destroy the federal govt & are ideologically opposed to all the things Liberals & Progressives both want for America. The rest of us, including Biden, are actually reasonable people who really want the same things. We can work it out, but we have to win it all to do so. I'd say the same if my fellow Democrats had chosen Bernie or Liz or whoever. You're not helping. You already know that, of course, which leads me to question your sincerity entirely.
No, Reagan was a Neo-Liberal. Centrists at the time were more Left than they are today. However, todays Centrists are Reaganites/Neo-Liberals. It apparently needs pointed out that Biden has always been part of the Conservative wing of the Democratic Party. In fact, that is one of the reasons Obama chose him as VP, to allay peoples fears that he was too Liberal.
I'm sorry, is me pointing out the flaws of your Candidate inconvenient? Is that maybe because your Candidate is not that good?
You really need to actually read what you're posting because you don't seem to realize you literally fucking said Reagan was a Centrist and then defined it as blatantly conservative. At some point even you need to recognize the simple misalignment of what you post.
Absolutely no clue where you think centrists at the time were more liberal either. What in the fuck? Where are you getting your information from? Right wingers might have been more liberal than the current strain of beligerant vitriol that they espouse, but Reagan sure as shit wasn't a centrist. Hell the neo-liberalism marker is a misnomer in that the "liberal" part is solely about their blatantly non-liberal economic policies that they just simply lied about being liberal in order to sell it to the centrists of the time. Which of course time has shown it was not only not liberal but was the start of blatantly fascist economic policies that they were actually wanting to enact (i.e. all the money to military, the rest have to beg or better yet just fucking die for the profits of corporate America as they steamroll average peoples' rights to enable it, which then fueled the need for the government to step in repeatedly to salvage their attempts to ruin the economy).
I do laugh that you start out calling people pointing out you're just saying both sides bullshit then immediately explicitly stated exactly that.
Again, you need to actually read what you're posting because you don't seem to be aware that you're just pissing in your own face.
You really need to actually read what you're posting because you don't seem to realize you literally fucking said Reagan was a Centrist and then defined it as blatantly conservative. At some point even you need to recognize the simple misalignment of what you post.
Absolutely no clue where you think centrists at the time were more liberal either. What in the fuck? Where are you getting your information from? Right wingers might have been more liberal than the current strain of beligerant vitriol that they espouse, but Reagan sure as shit wasn't a centrist. Hell the neo-liberalism marker is a misnomer in that the "liberal" part is solely about their blatantly non-liberal economic policies that they just simply lied about being liberal in order to sell it to the centrists of the time. Which of course time has shown it was not only not liberal but was the start of blatantly fascist economic policies that they were actually wanting to enact (i.e. all the money to military, the rest have to beg or better yet just fucking die for the profits of corporate America as they steamroll average peoples' rights to enable it, which then fueled the need for the government to step in repeatedly to salvage their attempts to ruin the economy).
I do laugh that you start out calling people pointing out you're just saying both sides bullshit then immediately explicitly stated exactly that.
Again, you need to actually read what you're posting because you don't seem to be aware that you're just pissing in your own face.
Oh he’s aware of what he’s doing, trolls are always aware.
Yes, just assume more Dude.
They don't have to buy or believe anything; it's all here in black and white. The problem is that there was never any argument to refute. Whenever you were asked for evidence you referred to the article, and when I asked you to vouch for its veracity you pitched a screaming fit. So there's nothing there. I agree, it's totally transparent, your nakedness for the world to see.
I don't care for the last word, it can be all yours, but if you're going to keep posting in this thread I hope you treat the truth with a little more respect.
Republicans ARE worse than Democrats, but Democrats are not the solution to this nations problems. The impeachment proved that to me, along with everything else Donald has gotten away with.
We need a real solution and its not making itself apparent at this time.
You're literally demanding they do believe it. Do you understand what words mean? Because you sure don't seem to. If its there in black and white, you are literally claiming that its simple fact and that people should accept it. Do you listen to yourself? You claimed he stepped away from it but are also claiming he isn't. Which is it?
For fuck's sake dude, you've been literally yelling rape over and over and over and over. If that's not you pitching a screaming fit I don't know what to say. You're the forum equivalent of a rape whistle. And its been clear you don't actually give a shit about the woman that you are defining as the victim of this alleged rape. Hell you don't care about any aspect other than Biden even with regards to it.
It is transparent that you can't even keep your own bullshit remotely straight and seem to be struggling to even use phrases properly or understand what they mean. Sorry but you don't get to act like its clear but then claim there's nothing to even see. You're trying to argue there's not even an argument, while you claim someone both is and isn't pushing that argument, then demanding they accept your reality.
The truth is, its very obviously not even clear to you as demonstrated by your constant repeated nonsensical arguments that you literally just spent multiple pages arguing over then declaring there was never even an argument for you to be arguing against. That is simple objective fact that should be the baseline level for you to accept. I didn't even broach the veracity of any argument. You can't even admit that there was an argument that you were just part of, and then demanding everyone else accept your truth. Yet you can't even keep the simplest facets of discussion straight.
You haven't spent any time giving a reason to dismiss the discussion but you want it dismissed because you say so. While you demand that everyone accept that what you say is truth with you not backing that up in any way.
Nevermind the person you're constantly griping about has said it should be investigated but you don't even want that. You just want people to declare it was the worst rape in all of human history and therefore Bernie should be declared President. Meanwhile people are merely pointing out to you that what you want does not actually accomplish what you want, but you demand that people see it so. Just like you demanded that the Democrats fix the election for Bernie while damning them for supposedly fixing it against him.
Oh he’s aware of what he’s doing, trolls are always aware.
You did not get it straight.You're literally demanding they do believe it. Do you understand what words mean? Because you sure don't seem to. If its there in black and white, you are literally claiming that its simple fact and that people should accept it. Do you listen to yourself? You claimed he stepped away from it but are also claiming he isn't. Which is it?
For fuck's sake dude, you've been literally yelling rape over and over and over and over. If that's not you pitching a screaming fit I don't know what to say. You're the forum equivalent of a rape whistle. And its been clear you don't actually give a shit about the woman that you are defining as the victim of this alleged rape. Hell you don't care about any aspect other than Biden even with regards to it.
It is transparent that you can't even keep your own bullshit remotely straight and seem to be struggling to even use phrases properly or understand what they mean. Sorry but you don't get to act like its clear but then claim there's nothing to even see. You're trying to argue there's not even an argument, while you claim someone both is and isn't pushing that argument, then demanding they accept your reality.
The truth is, its very obviously not even clear to you as demonstrated by your constant repeated nonsensical arguments that you literally just spent multiple pages arguing over then declaring there was never even an argument for you to be arguing against. That is simple objective fact that should be the baseline level for you to accept. I didn't even broach the veracity of any argument. You can't even admit that there was an argument that you were just part of, and then demanding everyone else accept your truth. Yet you can't even keep the simplest facets of discussion straight.
You haven't spent any time giving a reason to dismiss the discussion but you want it dismissed because you say so. While you demand that everyone accept that what you say is truth with you not backing that up in any way.
Nevermind the person you're constantly griping about has said it should be investigated but you don't even want that. You just want people to declare it was the worst rape in all of human history and therefore Bernie should be declared President. Meanwhile people are merely pointing out to you that what you want does not actually accomplish what you want, but you demand that people see it so. Just like you demanded that the Democrats fix the election for Bernie while damning them for supposedly fixing it against him.
Let me get your logic straight. The Republicans are worse but only because of the Democrats! Therefore no Democrats? I bet that will sure teach the Republicans! I guess since you've spent decades refusing to hold the Republicans accountable you figure you might as well be the Democrats (as you see them) and try and hold them accountable for the Republicans by doing nothing?
The solution is for you to unfuck your brain. Its ok, I had to do it too. But until you do you'll keep enabling the problem that you can clearly see but are trying to pin on anyone but the people perpetrating it, and certainly trying to absolve yourself of any role in it (likely because you thought not voting was choosing to not have a role in it, or even worse you're trying to absolve yourself for having voted Republican - which I can basically guarantee you have based on your posts - until you finally were able to realize how truly awful they have been).
Which, I'm fine with not saying you're a Democrat. I don't consider myself one (or of any party). But you need to understand what actually will do something about the Republicans.
Hell the neo-liberalism marker is a misnomer in that the "liberal" part is solely about their blatantly non-liberal economic policies that they just simply lied about being liberal in order to sell it to the centrists of the time. Which of course time has shown it was not only not liberal but was the start of blatantly fascist economic policies that they were actually wanting to enact (i.e. all the money to military, the rest have to beg or better yet just fucking die for the profits of corporate America as they steamroll average peoples' rights to enable it, which then fueled the need for the government to step in repeatedly to salvage their attempts to ruin the economy).